fights at evern can be fun, we check him frequently when we are smallgrp, had some nice fights there against fgs, although he is too easy to despawn so a good fg will have no problem with him when you inc them. GK is a bit too far off the road to check him, even when someone calls "albs doing gk" in broad you come too late most of the time.

I agree with trishin, these mobs do already drop real good stuff and are done frequently. The giant in OG is a bit too hard for a normal rvr fg and tajendi cloak made him not farmworthy. But we also had 2 real fun fights there with 6vs16 and 8vs16

Caemma wrote:@ Holsten: Yes, but maybe because the 6 ppl was 11L? You think that a pug fg 4L2 (even not all pug) can beat your ggroup?

you forget we are noobs and can't play, we waste every ra against rr4 grps and can be farmed easily just with good players rr doesn't matter. You can read everywhere here

Trishin wrote:

Caemma wrote:

Trishin wrote:To clarify my logics:
1. Topic opener was a suggestion adding more loot to the RvR boss mobs.
2. People tell topic opener boss mobs are already raided frequently.
3. I claim this is a community problem then (that these raiders are not hunted).
4. Someone claim it is a server setup problem.
5. I ask how it is a server setup problem, when mobs are frequently raided and players are aware of this, which means they should be able to try and interfere with these raids.


I am simply curious to why people complain about these mobs not being wanted when they are? And why people don't hunt the raiders if they are sure to be there once in a while.

Ok, thought your post was about all the "rvr situation" and not only about the first quote, my bad than

But, i bet everyone to have fun killing 4-5 players that go for farm a mob with a pve setup and halfbuffed once 2-3 hour.. maybe some stealthers can have fun of it

You could include checking these spots while circling keeps to kill taskers every kill counts towards a kill task

Yes, for sure!
But we are discussing about real rvr, not stealther/trio habits

@Holsten: yes you are right! We dont need any RAs to beat fg 10L

every rr2 pug can beat drachengarde, everyone knows, so no excuses

maybe change gain of rp too ? if you are in group you win more rp ? than xp mod when you fight more than 2 ppl you win a bonus rp and if its a fg you win more than 2 kill on pvp mod ^^

you already get more rps if u r grped.

A handful of relatively large groups of players every 2 hours in a desolate zone does not generate a significant increase. It still isn't worth going there if 90% of your time is spent running around searching for -killable- inc, hoping you didn't accidently pass them somehow.

Trishin wrote:

Caemma wrote:

Trishin wrote:To clarify my logics:
1. Topic opener was a suggestion adding more loot to the RvR boss mobs.
2. People tell topic opener boss mobs are already raided frequently.
3. I claim this is a community problem then (that these raiders are not hunted).
4. Someone claim it is a server setup problem.
5. I ask how it is a server setup problem, when mobs are frequently raided and players are aware of this, which means they should be able to try and interfere with these raids.


I am simply curious to why people complain about these mobs not being wanted when they are? And why people don't hunt the raiders if they are sure to be there once in a while.

Ok, thought your post was about all the "rvr situation" and not only about the first quote, my bad than

But, i bet everyone to have fun killing 4-5 players that go for farm a mob with a pve setup and halfbuffed once 2-3 hour.. maybe some stealthers can have fun of it

You could include checking these spots while circling keeps to kill taskers every kill counts towards a kill task

Wow, just wow. I went from *facepalm* to *double facepalm* with your replies but this one just beats them all. There aren't enough hands in existance to form the facewall I need for this one. Ok, maybe I exagerrated a bit there, 14 billion hands should do the trick.

Anyway, you basicly said: RvR is basicly killtasking, and while you're at it, you can gank PvEers once every 2 hours if you're lucky and willing to sacrifice the time checking the spot out every x number of minutes...

I don't have to draw a picture here to how utterly twisted your view of RvR has become, sadly. It's a disgrace to real RvR in so many ways...

Especially to hear this from a GM must really be a sour fruit to some of newer people who haven't yet realised you have been spewing nonsense like this for years now. Just to set this straight tho, I'm not trying to assault you as a GM, I'm just saying, please, for the love of DAoC and the most epic RvR to date, just stop talking about it, it's too painful to watch.


PS: I'm posting again out of nostalgia btw (I know, stupid, but fckit) because I'm working on a vid of some old guild RvR (REAL RvR!).I'll post a little more constructively in the news topic, but I just wanted to point out comments like these are just too crazy for words.

Wow, just wow, how much info you can get out of one sentence

Always so angry frigzy

Well, this thread is toast.

pweet wrote:Wow, just wow, how much info you can get out of one sentence

lol post of the month

Zarkor, its not even worth to respond to you anymore with your attitude. Don't try to build another wall of QQ text out of one GM sentence. If you don't play anymore then please do me a favor and don't post, your constant raging against the staff is disgusting. You made your point in older posts so please leave it by that.

Blue wrote:Zarkor, its not even worth to respond to you anymore with your attitude. Don't try to build another wall of QQ text out of one GM sentence. If you don't play anymore then please do me a favor and don't post, your constant raging against the staff is disgusting. You made your point in older posts so please leave it by that.

Look, I know I'm not the guy who uses the most tact. But there is truth in my post. Talking about RvR as if guard tasks is actual RvR is just a shame. Yes, I did exaggerate, I'll admit that, but that's the spur of the moment. I just couldn't believe my eyes reading it. The fact that you apparently think his view of RvR is somehow normal is wierd to me too.

Anyway, I am still going to make a topic regarding the problems. I don't care really, about what you think of me. I've been frustrated about this entire server too much before. Yes, at times I can't keep it to myself, but that's my problem. Anyway, I wouldn't be making posts like these if I didn't intend to say something useful too. I didn't come back here for that. I just want other, newer players out there to see the full picture.

And maybe, just maybe, you guys can see past my rant too, for once.

Zarkor wrote:Talking about RvR as if guard tasks is actual RvR is just a shame.

Sorry, I can't see where Trishin is saying in his sentence that guard tasks are RvR.

Trishin wrote:You could include checking these spots while circling keeps to kill taskers every kill counts towards a kill task

He just suggested that roaming in the RvR zone is one option and while roaming you could also check keeps for taskers when there is no action in other places. There is no word that guard tasks are intended to be actual RvR. You read what you want to read, thats the problem. Attacking staff members will not help your credibility.

You got me there, I did misread that. However if the situation is so dire that you would be roaming with guard taskers as your primary target instead of inc in general in the most appropriate zone, you're going to be wasting your time more often than not.

we did a guardtask because emain was completely empty this morning (taking the 2 keeps for sure, just killing guards is too senseless for me) and we got inc. 1 alb at nott (trying to taks) and 4 hibs at bled, even nice fight as we were 5, more than the hour waiting amg in emain before