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Postby ZaiQQ » Oct 18, 2011 14:32

MotaroReloaded wrote:Now i know why there r so many high rr stealthers on this server, they make rps on eachother all day long:P


Damn, you solved the mystery of gaining realmranks. Killing. Who would've known!
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Postby b0red26 » Oct 20, 2011 08:18

haha loved the kills you're one sb I run away from when I see you coming haha keep the videos coming I enjoyed it
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Postby skdante » Oct 21, 2011 16:02

nice fights, good game play killing 3 persons all toghether.Still think viper is alot overpowered and gives you the edge on fights . you poison all targets then focus in 1 that goes down faster till the time to kill 1 you repoison and you kill 1 more . then you die with the second dude and the third dies from 2 full efects from viper.Anyway nice played with styles and fast pas still viper makes it easy to win 1v1. This skill is desighned for 3k life characters with other bonuses maybe the gms can see that in the video .
Sorry ori for the viper qq :P , next time make a video with no viper kills i think you play good enought to make this happen :).

ps: the friar fight you did total 1 style only ...and he died :D
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Postby Orihiime » Oct 21, 2011 19:12

skdante wrote:nice fights, good game play killing 3 persons all toghether.Still think viper is alot overpowered and gives you the edge on fights . you poison all targets then focus in 1 that goes down faster till the time to kill 1 you repoison and you kill 1 more . then you die with the second dude and the third dies from 2 full efects from viper.Anyway nice played with styles and fast pas still viper makes it easy to win 1v1. This skill is desighned for 3k life characters with other bonuses maybe the gms can see that in the video .
Sorry ori for the viper qq :P , next time make a video with no viper kills i think you play good enought to make this happen :).

ps: the friar fight you did total 1 style only ...and he died :D



Well, i took viper 3 at 10L3 after be bored to see almost every ranger play one fight dump all ra and go hide for 15 minute for do the same thing. when u lpay sb, are weak to slash, and hit ranger with pd4-5, that are resistant to slash, how u want i win if i dont have viper 3, especially when they dump ip2, rr5, purge. there is no way to win without viper 3 for a sb against that kind of ranger.
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Postby RonELuvv » Oct 21, 2011 20:18

<----- That kind of ranger and she is right :) When my RA's are all up I dont care how well played the assasin is it is tough for them. IP2, purge, desperate bowman = trouble for most assasins. If you throw in camo and let me open w/ bow then there is not much they can do. I will however state that I dont hide till my RA's are back up. I may move back a bit from AMG so I'm not right next to the gate, but I'm not gonna run and hide till the RA's are up. As long as I can get 1 kill per 1 death i'm happy :)

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Postby skdante » Oct 21, 2011 22:51

hehe np ori nice played i liked your timing in some fights on strafe styling ,in and out was nice .as for viper its not only you, every 1
uses it ,still i think its overporwered and desighned for enemy chars with champion level hp bonuses and stats cap bonuses... talking about 1k life more or even more.geting two styles in total and wining in a fight is not a challenge thats my thoughts.
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Postby RonELuvv » Oct 21, 2011 23:52

Funny thing about viper.... With me playing ranger I normally chat and visit with assasins while i'm at AMG. Almost every single high RR assasin I talk to says purge 3 > viper 3 BY FAR. I have told 3 of my guildmates about this and they all play assasins. They have tried it out, and 3 agree that purge 3 will win you more fights then viper 3. Viper 3 gives you about 10-30 more dmg per tick compared to viper 2. At 6 ticks a poison its a total of 60-180 dmg over the entire fight. As an assasin you lose a fight when you get cc'd. If a person can stun, mez, or root you then your in trouble. Having purge up every 5 minutes = having purge for almost every fight. Not saying viper isnt a very powerful tool, I just think it gets a bit overblown.

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Postby Artefact » Oct 22, 2011 00:58

As you stated RoneL, vip3 << Purge3
Even if on hard swap vip makes good damage i do prefere mop from far
Vip is just a nice tool at high rr to win fight against everythg or 2+ enemies
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Postby Seyha » Oct 22, 2011 01:53

I agree that Purge 3 is the single best RA for a high RR assassin, but thats a bit apples and oranges. There's no way Viper 3 does only 10 more damage per tic than 2. The average is closer to 25. Over 6 ticks that's 150 more damage, which is a decent chunk of HP on a classic server with no buff bots. But of course assassins will be swapping weapons to spam poison, so the damage difference will be even greater over the course of a fight. And this damage is consistent, unlike MoP (especially against high defense classes).

You can trade Viper 3 for ranks in MoP (no one ever said Viper 2 was balanced...), and this is a perfectly good spec, better than Viper 3 in some situations. But for pure cheese and easy RPs, nothing is better than Viper 3. Its the reason an RR5 assassin with Remedy can solo 2 RR4 assassins. Its the reason solo RvR is almost unplayable for casters.

But yeah, Purge 3 is great for assassins if you can afford it without gimping your damage.
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Postby Orihiime » Oct 22, 2011 02:16

well my ra are aug str2, mopain4, viper3, purge3, mos2, and dont remember what others are, so im full dmg, and will never change it
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Postby skdante » Oct 22, 2011 07:48

mop << viper3 << purge3. still viper is = two styles in total and you have 1500 dmg ... thats no skill in kill and really makes it so easy to win every fight.and iam telling again this skill is desighned and was overpowered even then for enemy characters with toa bonuses and cls those days assasins was hiting like 10 styles average per fight not 2 styles and that meant that the assasin must try to do some chain styles rather than swap weapons and spam garote and have be cool becouse he knows that in the second style that he will land the target is dead and all he got to do is vanish. It is really bad and what ever you tell me will not change my opinion about a skill that is really wrongly still in this server.
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Postby holsten-knight » Oct 22, 2011 11:13

finally watched the vid, and even though i find most stealther vids boring as hell i don't want the time of my life back. Quite good vid.

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Postby Luziferius » Oct 22, 2011 11:39

skdante wrote:mop << viper3 << purge3. still viper is = two styles in total and you have 1500 dmg ... thats no skill in kill and really makes it so easy to win every fight.and iam telling again this skill is desighned and was overpowered even then for enemy characters with toa bonuses and cls those days assasins was hiting like 10 styles average per fight not 2 styles and that meant that the assasin must try to do some chain styles rather than swap weapons and spam garote and have be cool becouse he knows that in the second style that he will land the target is dead and all he got to do is vanish. It is really bad and what ever you tell me will not change my opinion about a skill that is really wrongly still in this server.


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But funny video Alanya :D
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Postby Orihiime » Oct 22, 2011 12:37

i never said viper 3 is not wrong. but pd is right for ranger ? i will not start talk about that here since theere is a lot of topic talking about it, i never complained about pd, and i will not start, i only counter is with viper 3, and im fine like that
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Postby Fjalt » Oct 22, 2011 14:38

pd5 dont work right.... infis do 100-120 dmg and sbs 80-100 dmg on pd4 ranger! AND ranger with str/conz debuff with anytimer 90-120 dmg on infis/sbs! infis=sbs=ranger.... but dot spam (viper3) is too hard... vs dot spam=isnt dot tick over sbs/infis/ns can not dot the enemys (dot resist)! I Think is ok for all ;D

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