Eclipsed wrote:There is no such thing as adding in RvR, if it was played right. One realm mate helping another to defeat a mortal enemy, is what realm vs realm is. Allowing your own realm mate to die, to the hands of an enemy, because it makes you look bad, should just be called PvP. And that is why it is said so much. Realms is not a big factor on this server. Its about X fight vs X player. Freely allowing xrealming on shareds and much later on live, has made players lazy to how the game was designed for, and made everyone have a pvp mentality, even if its RVR.

Now yes many like xrealming and it will tick them off if they cant anymore. But its the choice the staff need to make. Allow it and keep the same kind of RvR play or fix it and possibly start the slow process of getting people out of that mentality and hopefully in the future and better RvR experience for all.

Have you ever watched a movie where the good guy is facing off with the bad guy, and all of their friends/henchmen just back off and watch the two fight? You could roleplay that maybe?

Seriously though, I don't see Uthgard's rules ever changing in regards to what you call "cross realming". Players want variety, and like I said before, actual cross realming (by the true definition), other than arranged fights, doesn't happen as much as you might like to think it happens. I'd guess that easily 95% of Uthgard players have no interest in spoiling a relic raid or keep battles.

have you ever seen a movie where an enemy horde sluater there enemys villiges, killing women, children and anything in there way out of venchance.

Not every situation is played the same way. Plus that is the movies. If a fool wants to fight to the death in 1 on 1, they can. But you shouldnt expect everyone too. Imagine if you died and you had to start over at lvl 1 lol. Then i bet no one would cry add for helping them.

And no this isnt Role play server, but still is a mmorpg, which means role play game. This is a rvr setup. Which means realm vs realm. There is no aspect of realm vs realm, that says you should respec your enemys and give fair fights. How many 1 vs 1 fights are actually fair. An assasin vs another class that has less chance of a fair fight. Or a high rank vs a low rank. Are all these fair, if you let them start there fight with no assist.

If i know a high rank or difficult enemy is near by and a realm mate, who maybe lower rank or a class that has little chance to win agenst that alb or mid. YOU bet ill add. If my realm mate is a high rank and i know is good, i will normaly let them 1 on 1 if they like. But i will not let my realm mates die in fights that are not truely fair or not in favor of them. If i prevent them from dieing, they may live on to kill a few more, then wait to run out again or just log.

boulderbolg wrote:I'd guess that easily 95% of Uthgard players have no interest in spoiling a relic raid or keep battles.

And do not forget that the last known crossrealmspy bans were given to people that have so called "realmpride" - they did spy for their realm!!!! If you have no realmpride you don't need to spy for relicraids cause most of the time those people do not take part (since it's zerg & pvwood)

Razzer wrote:There is no realmpride!
People don't get killed cause of the "war" but because of the rps they're worth.
When you prefer 1vs1 you don't add "duels/1vs1 fights" because you don't want to get add aswell.

+1

Eclipsed wrote:have you ever seen a movie where an enemy horde sluater there enemys villiges, killing women, children and anything in there way out of venchance.

You forgot the raping thing!
Well when you see such scenes in movies - you think: "Wow! Very honourable men! They fight innocent children & women for their realm! They can be proud of themselves!" ?

maybe the most boring thread with the most useless discussion EVER

You cant force realm pride.

Oswaldo wrote:You cant force realm pride.

WTS Realmpride 10P if u take 2 the pride for the 3rd realm is for free

I think its the bitter way of normal playstyles in DAoC.

At the beginning of DAoC it was like "realmpride zerg em down!!!oneoneeleven"

But things cleared up and mostly 8vs8 was a big favor.

And finally you just make tons of 1vs1 duels in LotM. This is the way what happened on the live-servers.

ATM i think we are at the middle status.

We can maybe change the server livelike as it looked in the past.
But we can not force people to behave like in the past or like in the beginning. DAoC and people envolved and realmpride is gone and dead. Close this "chapter" now. -_-

And this topic as well.

The way people play, is based on what you give them. If you allow them to play any realm, as they started to do on live later on, people stop caring about what realm they are on and more about the RP they are getting for there char. Plus dont forget, we are aiming for classic and there was no cross realming back then on live. There is more reasons to limit cross realming, then just to increase realm pride and play mentality in rvr.

Its not hard to tell that there is many who like the new feature to cross realm and dont want to lose it. But its no diff then other features on the server that was not classic that had to be removed/changed. Such change may get looked down at, but after awhile they will get use to it and in the future it will be a good step tword classic.

Eclipsed wrote:no cross realming back then on live.

Wrong.

Cross-realming can't be prevented. It can only be limited to a degree, hence making the limitation itself stupid and arbitrary. Not to mention that anyone with a dynamic IP (which is a significant part of the population) will be totally unaffected by any possible limitation, making any such limitation even MORE stupid.

Last of all, this server has about a thousand more pressing problems then catering to your misguided obsessions. Oh, and I play only Albion.

So in short (again): No.

Herm666 wrote:

tonhl wrote:[...]very high rr "players" (IRL losers)[...]

Sorry, I would like to underline this. Just for comprehension.
HIGH RR PLAYERS = REALLIFE LOSERS

Just my 2 cents

I would like to underline this. just for comprehension.

The meaning of a word betweens " " means sarcasm and not the real thing is written inside.

So if a FG of higRR kills a soloer, and ****** about the "aaaaahhh i want pure 8v8, dont add, you suck omg!!!11!!1eleven!!" they are Losers, big, big big losers.
If you do it, and you felt offended by that sentence, i'm sorry, but that's how i view it.

Melodexx wrote:
thats a reason why loser like you stay in thidranki most of the time and got like 8 level 50's characters

Are you speaking with me? Wish i had 8 lvl 50............ ive only my minstrel and my Gf cleric, you can check herald and ask my guild. And i'm usually in emain getting zerged by 4+ high RR stealthers, or FG of High RR ppl......
Maybe you ganked me in FG in the past? you have surely the RR to do it
Or i'm wrong?

Eclipsed wrote:The way people play, is based on what you give them. If you allow them to play any realm, as they started to do on live later on, people stop caring about what realm they are on and more about the RP they are getting for there char. Plus dont forget, we are aiming for classic and there was no cross realming back then on live. There is more reasons to limit cross realming, then just to increase realm pride and play mentality in rvr.

Its not hard to tell that there is many who like the new feature to cross realm and dont want to lose it. But its no diff then other features on the server that was not classic that had to be removed/changed. Such change may get looked down at, but after awhile they will get use to it and in the future it will be a good step tword classic.

You just read what you desire for, dont you?
The community repeats: v a r i e t y

So.... because theres no realmpride people are rp horny. What game did you play eclipsed? I'm just wondering.