Austerim wrote:Go on a Legion/Dragon raid if you need money that bad. We had to roll twice yesterday because Legion dropped so many so I don't see how it'll be a problem getting one to sell.

Do you know? Problem on uthgard is low rvr population, not low pve population.

I still dont understand why you changed it.

I see nothing positive in this move, only problems for a whole range of people: Solos and new 50s.

ANd I QQ a lot on this but i never traded any Stone.

If Dragons where in RVR zone, I could understand the move, but why force anyone go farm some stupid monster miles away from any ennemy?? Just before I took my break, Hibernia was dumb raiding Dragon every evening in prime time, I had even had trouble finding numbers to run a trio.

Daoc has the best RvR Sytem out there, thats why it is still alive and people keep playing it. It has maybe the worst PvE Content of all and now u froce players to attend those stupid afk raids my only action is /roll...makes just no sense

RonELuvv wrote:How about along with this change making it so the RvR bosses could also drop some respec stones?

This is possible and can be implemented. Also note that legion is located in a RvR zone too.

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Wow to some in this thread, reading your posts one could get the impression that one hour raiding and working together with other realm members must be soooo hard that it would take months to get one respec.

Blue wrote:Wow to some in this thread, reading your posts one could get the impression that one hour raiding and working together with other realm members must be soooo hard that it would take months to get one respec.

There are not enough players after prime time to even pull this off. The player base is spread to wide after hours for this.

They can still purchase by BP or at the auctioneer/house merchants. Prices will propably drop due to a better availability.

What also can be done is a progressive purchasable Respec stone like Mythic did. Every stone you buy increases the price for the next one. These stones would not be tradable though.

I'd say the basic idea is not bad,
but I would keep it with the old prices for some time with the simple reason, that RvR should be the main target.

Atm there is still a high population but the biggest part is PvE and with this change it might increase because Respecs are an important part of the RvR system.
So it would be nice if the OF RA system would come first and see how the community deals with it and when there is a constatly good part of rvring people then change the prices back.

Would this be an option?

Blue wrote:---
Wow to some in this thread, reading your posts one could get the impression that one hour raiding and working together with other realm members must be soooo hard that it would take months to get one respec.

Wow to Gm´s for instead of making RVR attractive for ppl to attend does the opposite and nerf one of the awards u get from it.

And still have the rudeness to tell me go PvE.

If u forced ppl out in RvR like this i be soooooo glad. But hey thats to much to hope for.

Yeah great lets do more DR between 9pm and 10pm, that is really what is best for the server. And killing a poorly scripted monster is so much fun and requires so much teamwork ^^ Hey I have a cool idea to promote this kind of work with other realm members, lets implement TOA!
I am all in favor of realm spirit and play but I would prefer you find a nice and fun system for keeps and relics taking.


Maybe (surely? ) I am missing the point but I dont understand the intent behind this change. Was it to solve a problem, if yes, which one? Surely you can see it creates big problems to a category ofplayers that really dont need more: solos and new 50s.

If you want to drop the price of respec stones, drop their cost in BP. These stones are a benefit for RVR.

Blue wrote:Do I misunderstand something but the BP Merchant offers Grand Recharge stones at same prices. What is the problem for charge users?

i got so excited when i heard this and i logged on to check if it was real. i see no grand recharge stone available on midgard BP merchant. i became very sad. why you get my blood going for nothing blue ^^

this bp nerf really hurts me as i only have time to do like 20k-50k rps per week. now it will take me years to conserve enough bps to get respecs instead of months (because of buying charges). this new respec price is insanely high for casual players.

also... its kind of strange to say that its easy to form a successful legion raid and get enough respecs to satisfy the whole raid. it actually is rather difficult even at prime time. noone wants to do this for many reasons. for instance: easy to wipe here even with experienced bg, non respec legion drops are now almost completely worthless compared to easier to get OP taj drops, etc. you should make necklace of the body have 100% chance to drop with s/c charge, then people will go here. the current drop system it is much much faster to get your s/c charge doing taj which is one of the biggest reasons it is more popular now.

Thats the problem, why do legion when we have that stupid overpowered TAJENDI items ( really bad idea, im so sorry, a nerf could be useful), stones prices will drop eventually but still people will do that raids only for gems and a few drops, while you can farm taj 2 bosses for the best staffs, Breastplate or gems with charges.

People here complaint about do a 1 hour dragon raid for gem but none tell nothing about doing taj 2 raids over and over to get a piece of heavenly armor for template or pay 20 plats for that.

Btw on live by SI we had no merchants to buy respect stones, only epic mobs dropped them, we should delete our really cheap ( till yesterday) merchants ? ^^.

Pelusilla wrote:Thats the problem, why do legion when we have that stupid overpowered TAJENDI items ( really bad idea, im so sorry, a nerf could be useful), stones prices will drop eventually but still people will do that raids only for gems and a few drops, while you can farm taj 2 bosses for the best staffs, Breastplate or gems with charges.

Thats btw a big problem with Tajendi. It doesnt fit into classic environment.

Pelusilla wrote:People here complaint about do a 1 hour dragon raid for gem but none tell nothing about doing taj 2 raids over and over to get a piece of heavenly armor for template or pay 20 plats for that.

Thats what I thought too... We have up to 15 Tajendi runs in the evening.

Blue wrote:Do I misunderstand something but the BP Merchant offers Grand Recharge stones at same prices. What is the problem for charge users?

Its not about recharge stones. Its about the money from sold respecs which are used to recharge items by NPC.

Dark Age of Camelot's game have been created and it's still alive FOR RVR.

Rvr is even Change Spec! it would be boring without the chance of respec a character, or doing PVE raids to get the stones cause of their elusive price.

You are killing Rvr with a not intelligent idea!

Those stones were "the blood" for stealthers and soloers, 1k bp for getting 1p and pay charges/barrels was ok..

7k for ra respec? Why 7? Did u dream that number? Completely no-sensed.

Oh, forgot Blue. I just realized.

Blue wrote:We have up to 15 Tajendi runs in the evening.

make all taj drops character bound like taj1 cloaks. see how long this goes on ^^