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Seyha wrote:With NF RAs any Mid or Hib stealth group has a good chance against an Alb stealth group. I've been in Mid stealth PuGs without Team Speak that have humiliated BA with all their advantages. This is due primarily to the availability of purge, and MoS for Hunters.

Man! Thats a joke right?? u won maybe 1 or 2 times out of 100 and u call that humiliation??
IF that is humiliation then im sorry but i am not allowed to say what is our victories against all kind of stealth wars we had till now because if i say it i will get baned for using bad language. bye thanks!


lol that was my first post ! ! yeyyy!!!


'' if its red is dead''

[quote="Dioz"]
lol that was my first post ! ! yeyyy!!!


what? i just realised that i did 4 more posts! but they are so old i couldnt remember...

Right, and when was the last time you actually won a equal number, equal RR, non-add fight against another stealth group? Because I've never seen you do it. What I did see was a lot of BA death spam back when Runis, Lahia, Noir, me and others got ****** off enough to group against you. 9 times out of 10 you released back to the pad. It would be harder now that you've RP-farmed your minstrels up to a high RR, but not impossible with enough people and good assists.

You're a guild of average players with team-speak and a lot of free time, playing on a server that won't do what it takes to balance your over-powered setup (no stealth for minstrels). If you were limited to the same Assassin/Archer stealth duo as the other realms no one would care about you, and you would have quit a long time ago.

Yol wrote:On german live servers there have been much much stealther-groups!
And there also have been Stealther Guilds too like BA.

The difference to here is: With phaseshift and c4 you had a little chance to escape to the next tower/keep there.

Dont missunderstand me pls: I really dont like TOA. But for stealthers, especially for bow-users, there have been more abilities to survive a fight then here on uthgard.

And on live the hunter was a really good stealther-char. Here on uthgard its much too weak compared with the scout or ranger.

And yes: A stealther with insta-stun, single and ae-mez, sos , am and ora/red pet is much, *to* much overpowered. And with old-ras with purge-cooldown of 30 minutes...i think i dont have to say more ...

I dont count german servers as live. Live was the US and UK servers with lots of nice ppl and renowned stealthers.
The german ppl must have missunderstood the stealth aspect of game and sad but true took that lame gameplay with them here.

So i say it again, on live there existed no stealth guilds, no stealth zergs and most of the stealthers took really serious about playing there chars and keep up a good reputation. If they wanted play in group they logg there ordinary chars, if they wanted solo play their stealther. Simple as that.
The stealther community on this server makes me

Jonah wrote:I dont count german servers as live. Live was the US and UK servers with lots of nice ppl and renowned stealthers.
The german ppl must have missunderstood the stealth aspect of game and sad but true took that lame gameplay with them here.

The #1 world guilds and players were on french and german servers, in the old days.

Jonah wrote:
I dont count german servers as live. Live was the US and UK servers with lots of nice ppl and renowned stealthers.

typical american

pyrale wrote:

Jonah wrote:I dont count german servers as live. Live was the US and UK servers with lots of nice ppl and renowned stealthers.
The german ppl must have missunderstood the stealth aspect of game and sad but true took that lame gameplay with them here.

The #1 world guilds and players were on french and german servers, in the old days.

This is true.

Jonah wrote:

Yol wrote:On german live servers there have been much much stealther-groups!
And there also have been Stealther Guilds too like BA.

The difference to here is: With phaseshift and c4 you had a little chance to escape to the next tower/keep there.

Dont missunderstand me pls: I really dont like TOA. But for stealthers, especially for bow-users, there have been more abilities to survive a fight then here on uthgard.

And on live the hunter was a really good stealther-char. Here on uthgard its much too weak compared with the scout or ranger.

And yes: A stealther with insta-stun, single and ae-mez, sos , am and ora/red pet is much, *to* much overpowered. And with old-ras with purge-cooldown of 30 minutes...i think i dont have to say more ...

I dont count german servers as live. Live was the US and UK servers with lots of nice ppl and renowned stealthers.
The german ppl must have missunderstood the stealth aspect of game and sad but true took that lame gameplay with them here.

So i say it again, on live there existed no stealth guilds, no stealth zergs and most of the stealthers took really serious about playing there chars and keep up a good reputation. If they wanted play in group they logg there ordinary chars, if they wanted solo play their stealther. Simple as that.
The stealther community on this server makes me

we were on UK server as well. we had stealth guild there as well. we had flaming there as well. some of us were top RP players of the server as well.

@seyha :

Runis loged in just once in 2010, we killed him, he loged out, we never saw him again...
we might have died to some stealth groups some times yes, but the times we killed em are just countless,
maybe you are referring to fg groups with 2 healers and shaman etc plus a mos bot?

@topic
there will always be imbalances, old ra's will fix some problems but some others will come up,
minstrel is loosing AM yes but getting a better SOS and avoid pain, plus the mezz and stun will be purgable
only every 30 minutes, rangers/hunters will lose mos and assasin's getting it back, maybe they lose Viper but will have lot of points to use on dualist reflexes, mop, aug dex/str/quick,dodger... anyway its an endless discussion without a conclusion,
ppl should play the class they like and find ways to compete in RvR, its not that hard, and that counts for every realm.

Seyha wrote:Right, and when was the last time you actually won a equal number, equal RR, non-add fight against another stealth group? Because I've never seen you do it. What I did see was a lot of BA death spam back when Runis, Lahia, Noir, me and others got [I am a little bunny and like flowers] off enough to group against you. 9 times out of 10 you released back to the pad. It would be harder now that you've RP-farmed your minstrels up to a high RR, but not impossible with enough people and good assists.

You're a guild of average players with team-speak and a lot of free time, playing on a server that won't do what it takes to balance your over-powered setup (no stealth for minstrels). If you were limited to the same Assassin/Archer stealth duo as the other realms no one would care about you, and you would have quit a long time ago.

i dont want to make this topic a personal dispute between me and you seyha. ill just make one last comment.
since BA is a new guild (less than a year since we started as a stealth guild and even less when we entered emain cause we started rvr when OF came) we were even lower than rr4 when we entered emain so its the most reasonable thing to get powned at the start. i will never forget when we made a group of 4 non teplated rr3 pug and eowia killed us all almost at the same time.
Runis was killin me w/o even touch him once! Noir was our worst nightmare. But that all , my dear friend Seyha belongs to the past. All of those deaths we had against our enemys were not enough to make us stop coming again and again and every death we had made us stronger and more expirienced. So if you can realise how strong we are now you will see that yes we died alot of times
The truth now is that the last 2-3 months(maybe more) we have dominate the stealth wars at the point that we are the only stealth group (usualy 5-6 man) that we are looking for more chalenged battles and even attack random full groups and sometimes we win w/o a single loss!
we do that cause we dont have anything else to kill since no stealther is arround when we are out in emain.

At this point i would like to congrats the hib stealth zergs who are doing very decent efforts (they are coming out even with bards in their group or even druid) to counter attack us instead of go to their realm and cry like a baby saying :'' mos5 hunter looking for members to kill BA ''

So seyha a more convincing way would be to actually call my good friends Runis, Noir and all the other (very good) assasins in your realm and find out a way to face us at the battle ground w/o asking us to drop our minstrels our swords our viper3 our slams and our armor at apk and come out without them.Its very sad that players like Noir (imo the best sb i ever faced ) die helpless and ingloriousness like that against us.And ofc a stealth group to face BA is not a composition of 2 healers 2 zerkers 1 shaman 1 rm and 1 hunter cause simply this is a normal group with a crying mos bot leadin the way...
Hope to cu soon in emain again, bb

oh and we DONT have that much time to play as u claim cause we all work till 20.00 and our group play time is from 20.30 to 23.30-24.00 and thats not every day of the week.
about that average players thingie my answer is my rr in less than 5 months of true and organazied rvr

Now plz if you want to keep up with that argument we have , open a new topic and flame us there and dont use every chance u find to do what u do at your /broad of your realm

sorry but i have to correct some things here.

Dioz wrote:
since BA is a new guild (less than a year since we started as a stealth guild and even less when we entered emain cause we started rvr when OF came)

OF came at the end of 2009 if i remember right, so more than a year

every death we had made us stronger and more expirienced.

more like "made us invite more people to our group"

So if you can realise how strong we are now you will see that yes we died alot of times

your defination of being strong = making 99,9% of your guilds rps by leeching the work of other groups or simply outnumbering your enemy in vast numbers ?

The truth now is that the last 2-3 months(maybe more) we have dominate the stealth wars at the point that we are the only stealth group (usualy 5-6 man) that we are looking for more chalenged battles and even attack random full groups and sometimes we win w/o a single loss!

thats just hilarious, the only challenge ur guild has is to find the track of Albion fullgroups and add their fights at the right moment

Its very sad that players like Noir (imo the best sb i ever faced ) die helpless and ingloriousness like that against us.

If you feel sorry for him why dont you stop killing him 8vs1? seems like u want all stealthers to go your way...but luckily theres still people that denie a life as a parasite

about that average players thingie my answer is my rr in less than 5 months of true and organazied rvr

well said

Dioz wrote:I destroyed the fun for stealthers on this server by zerging the ****** out of them.

Good selfawareness.

Edit: You deserve every single mos bot group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeAWESP7 ... re=related

Dioz wrote:The truth now is that the last 2-3 months(maybe more) we have dominate the stealth wars at the point that we are the only stealth group (usualy 5-6 man) that we are looking for more chalenged battles and even attack random full groups and sometimes we win w/o a single loss!

Reroll on a realm without cheat-mode-activated stealthers ?
Albion is the only realm with group-friendly stealthers. Also the only one with healing abilities on stealthers, and the only one with anytime/spell crowd control out of RR5s. At the opposite, the stealthers from enemy realms have no group synergy.

So basically, if I understand your message, you chose to play in such a way that you could not lose, and now you are complaining that it's all to easy ?
Honestly, the 7-man 1-Mos is the logical answer to your behaviour, I don't see why you complain about it.

Honestly I don't know what's sadder between this thread and the BA leaders posts.