I just tell that all over this topics i saw flam/taunt which for me is a bad behaviour.
I've nothing against your event, but you must understand that you have no right to call for punishment.

GreenP wrote:What do you mean by "fair" . Same number of groupmembers ? Well at the moment these so called "events" are nothing but a easy way for a handfull of people to get alot of rps the easy way. Even if all enjoying it at the end the high rr /high utility groupsetups will make/ made the most rps/hour. Really should start such activities for LOW rr only as they have a harder life in emain/8v8/etc. tbh and it would be a nice gesture to the People that not have much experience with rvr and may to get them for later real rvr.

Now /flame on ...

bai

Doesn't occur to you that high rr groups might fight other high rr groups (which is most common at these events anyway) ? What then, easy rps for who exactly ? Realm abilites aren't always up ? Such activities for low rr only do exist already, they're called battlegrounds. People who don't have much experience won't gain it by zerging their enemies or getting easy kills. It takes a lot of dying to get to know the game and reach a decent skill level. Everybody starts at the same level. Suck it up.

I support these events. They are fun!

GreenP wrote:What do you mean by "fair" . Same number of groupmembers ? Well at the moment these so called "events" are nothing but a easy way for a handfull of people to get alot of rps the easy way. Even if all enjoying it at the end the high rr /high utility groupsetups will make/ made the most rps/hour. Really should start such activities for LOW rr only as they have a harder life in emain/8v8/etc. tbh and it would be a nice gesture to the People that not have much experience with rvr and may to get them for later real rvr.

Now /flame on ...

bai

I don't really get your point, it's not like this event is preventing someone else to create an event for low rr people. And the thing about "Well at the moment these so called "events" are nothing but a easy way for a handfull of people to get alot of rps the easy way", so fighting enemies constantly is an easy way to get rps? Opposed to what, roaming for hours with a rate of 1inc/hour? A lot of people playing these events don't really care that much for the RPS, I for an example didn't even play my own character on the last event...

@Artefact I wasn't really calling for punishment, I was just saying what most people will think. Ok, maybe OP should change his post so that it doesn't sound so threatening...

greenp has made his point here.
i did enjoyed the 4vs4 event and i will join the 5vs5, but i must agree with green, would be nice if the next event give some benefits to the newcomers or those pro players enjoy their lor rr alts.

Why ? If it's pros vs newcomers, newcomers will mostly lose anyway regardless of realm rank gap. He didn't make his point, he doesn't have a point whatsoever.

Benefits to newcomers, rofl. Lets just give everyone free rr6 and call it the day

lordgriffon wrote:Until a GM/Admin of Uthgard endorses this event, this event is in direct violations of the rules.

Under General Conduct:
§3.3 Cooperation between players and realms
Deliberate cooperation between players of different realms is forbidden. The server/game concept states that the realms are in a never ending war against each other and there shall be no exception from this situation. Unintended cooperation between players (example: three players of different realms fighting) is of course allowed. As soon as players or groups of different realms start to organize their fighting, it becomes a rule violation.

Not really, examples of what is and what isn't allowed was given many times by gm's. Go browse around the forum. I think it was explained in the Odins Gate thread.

lordgriffon wrote:§3.4 Fights between players of different realms – arranged duels
Arranged duels between players of different realms are not allowed. The players are not allowed to organize or arrange their fighting. This is realmpoint-farming and is strictly prohibited.

These are not arranged duels.

There have been the 8v8 (Two or three times) and the Zerg vs Zerg event (3 times?) and no Admin/GM complained about it.

When I organized the 2v2 Event Camulos, joining our #uthgard.2v2event IRC Channel (I've always made it PUBLIC, so everyone could see that we don't wanna share rvr infos) said:

[20:36] <[afk]Camulos> i like player organized events
[20:36] <[afk]Camulos> and i will always support them
[20:36] <[afk]Camulos> well
[20:37] <[afk]Camulos> i won't do you any harm

If it's not enough I beg one admin/gm to come here and tell us if this is allowed or not.

Many people complain about the fact that Odin's Gate and Hadrian's Wall are always empty: this is at least an attempt to bring up some small group action in those zones.

You are not forced to join anyway, you can keep doing Pve, RvR in Emain/DF, Pvgate, whatever you want. If you know better rules to encourage newcomers or pvers or whatever you wanna call them to join feel free to suggest them here and/or organize your better rules.

Now let's move on and see you today at 18:00!

It's not arranging duels if it's a PUBLIC EVENT ANYONE CAN JOIN. If you don't like it don't join, simple as that. Stop trying to undermine it with your flawed logic and interpretation of the rules.

lordgriffon wrote:The very title of of this thread makes it quite clear that this indeed is arranging duels:
"5vs5 Event - Sunday 5 December - 18:00 (6 pm)"
So Untila GM/Admin comes to this thread and endorses this event, because it is player hosted and this is arranged duels, this is a direcet violation of the General Conduct Rules.

First of all I wonder why you are trying so hard to be such a killjoy here. And secondly it is not considered arranged duelling if you only state in what zone you will be. It is perfectly allowed for me to announce that I will be Pennine this afternoon as has been posted by the staff on this board. An exact location however isn't. But do keep trying, I'm sure you'll find a way to ruin someone elses fun.

lordgriffon wrote:

bawww wrote:

lordgriffon wrote:Until a GM/Admin of Uthgard endorses this event, this event is in direct violations of the rules.

Under General Conduct:
§3.3 Cooperation between players and realms
Deliberate cooperation between players of different realms is forbidden. The server/game concept states that the realms are in a never ending war against each other and there shall be no exception from this situation. Unintended cooperation between players (example: three players of different realms fighting) is of course allowed. As soon as players or groups of different realms start to organize their fighting, it becomes a rule violation.

Not really, examples of what is and what isn't allowed was given many times by gm's. Go browse around the forum. I think it was explained in the Odins Gate thread.

I do not have to take the time to browse any forums to know that this is a direct violation as this is players hosting arranged duels.

lordgriffon wrote:§3.4 Fights between players of different realms – arranged duels
Arranged duels between players of different realms are not allowed. The players are not allowed to organize or arrange their fighting. This is realmpoint-farming and is strictly prohibited.

These are not arranged duels.

The very title of of this thread makes it quite clear that this indeed is arranging duels:
"5vs5 Event - Sunday 5 December - 18:00 (6 pm)"
So Untila GM/Admin comes to this thread and endorses this event, because it is player hosted and this is arranged duels, this is a direcet violation of the General Conduct Rules.

You gotta be kidding?
The past 2 weeks there has been 2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 all arranged on these forums. If the GMs had a problem with it they would proberly have said something by now. Or you think they are sitting there waiting for the 5v5 event and then BAM gonna ban everyone that takes part in it?
You really gotta be kidding me...

Remember that Trishin allowed this kind of event call in another post, so there's no rules break about it.

To everyone who obviously can't read:

Trishin wrote:On a side note:

The 2v2, 3v3, etc. events are perfectly fine, as long as they are not kept as tournaments / duel events.
We want RvR, however we will allow players to inform others about the normal behavior of a specific player type (solo's, 8v8, zerg, etc.).

Nymeros wrote:To everyone who obviously can't read:

Trishin wrote:On a side note:

The 2v2, 3v3, etc. events are perfectly fine, as long as they are not kept as tournaments / duel events.
We want RvR, however we will allow players to inform others about the normal behavior of a specific player type (solo's, 8v8, zerg, etc.).

I am wondering if those events were also organized with direct threats to those who did not follow the rules of your "Event".

The direct threat of repercussion makes this less of a "Anyone can Join" and more of a "Anyone can join as long as they play by our rules"

If what your saying is true then the event should have been "Hadrians wall RVR Event everyone come for lots of RVR action" and that would be it.

You go too far in making rules and making threats. It was also posted earlier that groups be allowed to sit and rest and not be killed while doing so. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL OTHER PLAYERS THEY CANNOT ATTACK ENEMY REALMS. AT ANY TIME!

You are not trying to breath life into rvr, this is not going to impact the big picture of rvr, this is a one time RP farm, where all you rvr zergers will continue your massive farming campaigns.

Rvr is about the random encounters in the frontiers, not the setup of massive battles.

No matter what you have said, it has been stated there will be repercussions to those who do not abide the community assigned rules.

If the GM's allow this, they are not performing their jobs as they so proudly tout they should.

You should all take bans for threatening the rvr community who dont follow your rules.

If there were no guildelines to follow it would end up like any other rvr event. People constantly getting added, zerged etc which is not fun just frustrating and pretty fast everybody would log off creating a vast empty rvr zone again. Pretty much what happens in emain every night. And it sucks.