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Postby Rector » Jun 16, 2010 14:43

If you have a valid source for that claim (it should half the rate?) we can make a bugreport and add it to the tiny buglist in my signature =)

I once did a little test about that with a lvl50 RR4 SB, unbuffed, dex was 20 under cap in sc. My hunter and Pet hit that SB. SB was passive and did nothing. Pet hit from behind, so could not get evaded.
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But I calculated the evade chance wrong. Its 40% (49/109) with pet and 49% (54/111) without.
Maybe I'll do that again with more hits and a fullcapped SB.
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Postby Force » Jun 16, 2010 14:44

AFAIK pet never halved evade, it was something I recall the hunter TL asking for at one point.

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Postby Seyha » Jun 16, 2010 14:46

Multiple attackers do reduce evade rate, but we don't know by how much.
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Postby Braxis » Jun 16, 2010 15:29

Seyha wrote:Multiple attackers do reduce evade rate, but we don't know by how much.

They should reduce all defenses.
And increase chance to hit perhaps?
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Postby Celad » Jun 16, 2010 15:54

Cyan wrote:
Celad wrote:In the last week i've noticed that too: Infis evade me like never before, i wonder if something is changed in the melee mech, or it's only unluck, or str relic have effects on evade rate on uth (all is possible on uth).

Dragoonn, Khellendros, other low level infis, always evade me 80%+ of the times. Very sad.


Low level? I have 300+ dex, it's the reason why i evade a lot (300 dex, evade 7 vs slow 2h spear, debuff/disease).

VS Madinaa (i think is spear spec) i don't evade to much, just 4-5 swings, and he is low rank.

Holavez


Lol, i wrote OTHER low level :D i don't remember the name.
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Postby Dragoonn » Jun 16, 2010 16:26

Cyan wrote:
Celad wrote:In the last week i've noticed that too: Infis evade me like never before, i wonder if something is changed in the melee mech, or it's only unluck, or str relic have effects on evade rate on uth (all is possible on uth).

Dragoonn, Khellendros, other low level infis, always evade me 80%+ of the times. Very sad.


Low level? I have 300+ dex, it's the reason why i evade a lot (300 dex, evade 7 vs slow 2h spear, debuff/disease).

VS Madinaa (i think is spear spec) i don't evade to much, just 4-5 swings, and he is low rank.

Holavez


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Postby Eclipsed » Jun 16, 2010 16:36

In alot of those videos, it would of helped alot, if you run ran through and /face, repeatly with back style or just taunt combo. Yes some may say lame, but guess what, its your enemy that thinks its lame, while at the same time he has evade 7 and most likely about 50% evade, while you have maybe 12% or so. So intead of giving your enemy the advantage, ignore this lame label and practice this tactic, since when old ra/1.69 comes, you will not be CS from stealth vs assasins, unless Truesight is up.

And i do agree the pet should lower the defenses a little more, since there is two attackers, and would help the hunter.

And in that video where you are kiting the friar, you should of turned your pet to neu or to stop attacking after all that running, the friar would prob not of noticed, and then you could of stealthed, then told the pet to attack again. He would have to kill the pet, allowing you to pull off a CS, when your pet died and he tryed to heal. Just have to time it good.
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Postby Ilramingo » Jun 16, 2010 17:53

I'm sure with parry chence... %parry is splitted by number of attackers (hunter and pet = 2 attaccker) and i think evade chance works with the same formula...

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Postby Rector » Jun 16, 2010 20:43

Yay! I finally got my kill :D
I know what went wrong yesterdays. I was simply listening to the wrong music!
see and hear yourself ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adpjYJW2By0
Even with wasting 3 sec trying to activate the dmgadd ^^

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Postby Dragoonn » Jun 16, 2010 20:52

Rector wrote:Yay! I finally got my kill :D
I know what went wrong yesterdays. I was simply listening to the wrong music!
see and hear yourself ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adpjYJW2By0
Even with wasting 3 sec trying to activate the dmgadd ^^


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Postby Snigel » Jun 16, 2010 20:53

Best video ever !!!

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Postby Eclipsed » Jun 16, 2010 22:11

Rector wrote:Yay! I finally got my kill :D
I know what went wrong yesterdays. I was simply listening to the wrong music!
see and hear yourself ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adpjYJW2By0
Even with wasting 3 sec trying to activate the dmgadd ^^


Not bad, just need to learn how to kill without a CS, since revamp will most likely take that away lol. Exept when TS is up.
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Postby Breeze » Jun 16, 2010 23:13

I'm sorry, don't want to sound negative.. but yeah ok you were a bit unlucky in the first fight..
BUT, there is so much you could have done better, I'm not surprised you lost really..
No buffs, no tactics, no movement at all..

If these are the ppl that whine for nerfs then well, go figure :)

If you enjoy playing like this, then I wont stop you :p
Just know you can work on your playstyle a lot :)

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Postby Seyha » Jun 17, 2010 00:15

Yeah I'm sure that being evaded 4-6 times in a row with a 3+ second attack delay by an enemy that only needs one hit to be killed is a problem that Rangers deal with on a daily basis. :roll: You can just pop your 200 damage cheap-shot RR5.

I agree that there is more Laya could have done. I would have just walked away and shot Dragoonn. But I also know what it is like to have all of your attacks evaded by an enemy that only needs one hit to be killed. It's a bit of a shock, as you stand there waiting for that one hit and suddenly you're dead.

It is for this reason that I completely disregard melee as a Hunter. I simply don't do it, because on Uthgard it is broken and favors the Hunter's enemies while doing nothing for the Hunter.
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Postby Ronian » Jun 17, 2010 00:27

Dotcharge would have nearly done it.

And today I faced an Inf and had 5 mainhand evades. :roll: So plz stop your everyday ranger bash Seyha.

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