Realm Balance... Let's Get Down to It

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Postby Luydor » Feb 17, 2010 16:33

Heho,

more ppl like rasta for hib and everything is fine <3


Yeah, at the last days the TC Groups/Pug were hard to fight then the other hib grps.

greetz Luydor
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Postby Xuji » Feb 17, 2010 19:08

@ MWit90:

Well i'm out here for about 9-10 months and i can say that Midgard has always been #1 on RP list. Not once have i seen other realm beat Midgard down.

Hibernia held 2nd place while Albion was 3rd, now it seems OF changed the situation and its other way around.

Those are the facts that are supported by Uthgard statistics.

MWit90 said:

-Mid is the most powerful realm
-Alb is the middleman
-Hib is the underdog


Hibernia is never the underdog, thats a false claim. Sieging is very important part of Dark age of Camelot, always has been. Hibernia is most powerful and unbeatable realm when it comes to the sieging. So i'm sure if Hibernians wanna claim all the relics back, they will have them. Hibernia is getting low with emain action due to the location of portal keep, and thats nothing to do with Realm vs Realm or the realm of Hibernia itself, or balance between the realms.

I wouldnt call Midgard most powerful realm, i'd just call it FotY or Flavor of the Year.


Well i've seen Albion fall behind in 100 000 000 rps behind Midgard, same thing happening to Hibernia now. Uthgard server breaths and those things change per weeks,months and so on.

Play what ever you feel like, and play the realm and the character you are gonna enjoy and have fun with it.

/salute all

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Postby Neju » Feb 17, 2010 19:12

Xuji wrote:Hibernia is getting low with emain action due to the location of portal keep, and thats nothing to do with Realm vs Realm or the realm of Hibernia itself, or balance between the realms.




:lol:

Hibs only problem is that they have to run to emain!

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Postby Rizla » Feb 17, 2010 19:18

saying hibernia is the underdog is not a false claim at all. When i came to this server they were succesful in rvr due to various bugs in classes. After that their numbers only declined, probably due to the nature off the server favoring tankspam over castergrps. In no way is the current state of the hibernia lvl 50 rvr reflective off the time i spent in rvr on live in 2003.

Offcourse every mid here will claim everything is balanced fine until they exually try playing hibernia ^^ I'd say alb does ok because it's the best place for pve (hence more number of players playing it). They also stand a chance vs mediocre / skilled mid grps. I'd say any grp with decent knowledge and voice chat can dominate the rvr scene from mid side.

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Postby Xuji » Feb 17, 2010 19:37

Rizla said:
When i came to this server they were succesful in rvr due to various bugs in classes.


Wth? so Hibernia can be succesfull only when you can exploit bugs and hacks? ...no comment.

Rizla said:
After that their numbers only declined, probably due to the nature off the server favoring tankspam over castergrps.


Ok tell me please which alb grp ISNT castergrp, cuz apparently you cant win shlt without cabby,sorc,theurg. And i'm talking about wining decent grps, not DG or grp like that. And btw your claim doesnt got to do 1 thing with Hibernia beeing underdog, cuz if i understand what you are saying; Hibernia is underdog realm cuz ppl dont wanna play casters? Well thats great, bring it on! Dont bring animists, mentalists in sieging!

Rizla said:
In no way is the current state of the hibernia lvl 50 rvr reflective off the time i spent in rvr on live in 2003.


Nobody said it should be like that... Who cares how live used to be. This is Uthgard, free server.

And i do know of some of the hib grps that owned agramon big time. Even caster grps.

@ Rizla: if you dont like it that much, change the realm...

and stop QQing, for Arthurs sake, Defend your bl00dy realm!!!

For Albion!

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 17, 2010 19:47

Xuji wrote:Ok tell me please which alb grp ISNT castergrp


Rare aka mercspam.

No hibernia is the underdog because their classes just suck for 8v8 rvr.

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Postby Xuji » Feb 17, 2010 19:54

Rare aka mercspam.


Acknowledged, yeah forgot about those guys...

Toblerone wrote:
No hibernia is the underdog because their classes just suck for 8v8 rvr.


Hahahahahahahaha x-DDDD

/wave from Croatia

cya all out there

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Postby Rizla » Feb 17, 2010 21:28

Xuji wrote:Wth? so Hibernia can be succesfull only when you can exploit bugs and hacks? ...no comment.


They were much more succesful back when i first entered agra yes. i was reffering to broken animists back then.

Xuji wrote:Ok tell me please which alb grp ISNT castergrp, cuz apparently you cant win shlt without cabby,sorc,theurg. And i'm talking about wining decent grps, not DG or grp like that. And btw your claim doesnt got to do 1 thing with Hibernia beeing underdog, cuz if i understand what you are saying; Hibernia is underdog realm cuz ppl dont wanna play casters? Well thats great, bring it on! Dont bring animists, mentalists in sieging!


Well as a minstrel i often find myself in grps without theurg or caba. I'm not saying hib is underdog cause ppl don't wanne play casters, i'm sure they do want to. It's just very hard to compete with tanks at big boy rvr. . In pve everything purple con resists, in rvr they haveto deal with sos/aog and with broken ra's (eg theurg rr5), insufficient mana pool, weird resists.

Xuji wrote:Nobody said it should be like that... Who cares how live used to be. This is Uthgard, free server.


Staff aims to emulate the live servers around this time.

Xuji wrote:@ Rizla: if you dont like it that much, change the realm...
and stop QQing, for Arthurs sake, Defend your bl00dy realm!!!
For Albion!


I play all three realms. 50rvr only from alb side atm. I just offered my opinion, didn't mean to QQ at all.

I'm not sure what to tell you, i'm not much off a daoc roleplayer since years. I do like the occasional singleplayer rpg tough, but i hardly feel like i have much emotion towards albion, or any realm on uthgard.

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Postby Zarkor » Feb 17, 2010 22:07

Xuji come play Hib before spewing nonsense please. Thanks.

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 17, 2010 23:02

Hibernia is OP. Bards are insane. © Anguish cca 2009 A.D.

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Postby Ino » Feb 17, 2010 23:29

Toblerone wrote:Hibernia is OP. Bards are insane. © Anguish cca 2009 A.D.


sure they are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBkz4BueysA 8)

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Postby Zarkor » Feb 18, 2010 02:28

Well, popping 2 RAs cus u got slammed and then laugh at him for realising he couldn't win anymore is kind of lame imo. He shouldn't have gotten that slam off in the first place. :P

Anyway, most has been said here I guess.

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Postby tharid » Feb 18, 2010 11:39

Xuji wrote:Hibernia is never the underdog, thats a false claim. Sieging is very important part of Dark age of Camelot, always has been. Hibernia is most powerful and unbeatable realm when it comes to the sieging. So i'm sure if Hibernians wanna claim all the relics back, they will have them. Hibernia is getting low with emain action due to the location of portal keep, and thats nothing to do with Realm vs Realm or the realm of Hibernia itself, or balance between the realms.


Agree with the part that sieging is (in my perspective the most important) part and feature of DAoC RvR.
But as you may have recognized, keeps do have no function on Uthgard (ofc influence on DF possesion is a function, but it doesn't affect the actual RvR-situation at all).
As I said in another thread two weeks ago: Just change the keep function as it was on 02/03 (as the staff claims it all day long for weeks now).

Groups/player who can't compete on "big boy"-RvR in Emain will swap to keep-raiding, and enemy groups/players will notice and defend, especially if their realm has relics in possesion.
I seriously can not understand why this change has not happened yet, because it would cause balance without changing RAs or class balance itself.

And Xiju, Hibernia tried to take relics back in the past few weeks, not only once. But I hope you agree that it is impossible to raid a relic keep on european prime time, and that it is kinda hard to raid in the middle of the night with maybe three totally unorganized groups. One average played mid/alb-group combined with keepguard spawn should stop that raid in minutes.
In most cases two reasons caused wiping: Too less hibernian fellows (look at the current player numbers), or too much defenders (especially on mid-side, and I speak of three groups at 4 am).
And it is kinda annoying to know that you will have, at some point of time at least an equal number of defenders against you.

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Postby Xuji » Feb 18, 2010 12:09

Zarkor wrote:
Xuji come play Hib before spewing nonsense please. Thanks.


If you can be so kind to enlighten me with nonsenses i wrote? If not, dont comment, all the posts you got so far mean bullcrap if we can not discuss this in civil way. And i played on hib, not in OF that much, lvling my own toon out there.

You are most Welcome!

Tharid wrote:
And Xiju, Hibernia tried to take relics back in the past few weeks, not only once. But I hope you agree that it is impossible to raid a relic keep on european prime time, and that it is kinda hard to raid in the middle of the night with maybe three totally unorganized groups. One average played mid/alb-group combined with keepguard spawn should stop that raid in minutes.
In most cases two reasons caused wiping: Too less hibernian fellows (look at the current player numbers), or too much defenders (especially on mid-side, and I speak of three groups at 4 am).
And it is kinda annoying to know that you will have, at some point of time at least an equal number of defenders against you.


I acknowledge this and i agree, but then again, nothing to do with Realmbalance whatsoever. Its got to do with players in Hibernia at the time being. In 3 months from now you all gonna be complaining on Alb...

Overall i wanna say brining all these facts to appeal that one realm is weaker and stuff is lame. If you wanna play a certain realm, play it, dont complain. This thread was about:
Realm Balance... Let's Get Down to It
by MWit90

I stated the current situation.

Anyways i spent to much time writing this and reading all, got no more time or will for that anymore, ill see you all in the game!

Wish you all good hunting out there!

Cya

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 18, 2010 12:11

What makes keep sieging important ? It's just something you can do when you're really really bored.

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