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Postby vangonaj » Feb 01, 2010 14:32

Toblerone wrote:
vangonaj wrote:And without viper3?


Haven't met a stealther >rr5 without it so far.


Then if you don´t know, why you opine?. In my opinion sb without viper can be much more powerfull than with viper.

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 01, 2010 14:35

Don't know what ?

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Postby vangonaj » Feb 01, 2010 14:43

Sorry haven´t met.

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Postby Amadeth » Feb 01, 2010 14:59

vangonaj wrote:Yes really hard, and hardest if you have one pet charmed who nukes for 240 damage, and do all job.

Obviously you are clueless.
btw, you should see someone and perhaps talk about those frustrations of yours.
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Postby vangonaj » Feb 01, 2010 15:07

Amadeth wrote:
vangonaj wrote:Yes really hard, and hardest if you have one pet charmed who nukes for 240 damage, and do all job.

Obviously you are clueless.
btw, you should see someone and perhaps talk about those frustrations of yours.


What did all minses when we had agramon? All used ellyl pet.
If Elrill will say here that mins is hard mele, ill believe him. But sorry in my opinion hibrid stealther with charm, instant stun ablative armor and insta dd, isnt really hard.

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Postby Amadeth » Feb 01, 2010 15:11

vangonaj wrote:
Amadeth wrote:
vangonaj wrote:Yes really hard, and hardest if you have one pet charmed who nukes for 240 damage, and do all job.

Obviously you are clueless.
btw, you should see someone and perhaps talk about those frustrations of yours.


What did all minses when we had agramon? All used ellyl pet.
If Elrill will say here that mins is hard mele, ill believe him. But sorry in my opinion hibrid stealther with charm, instant stun ablative armor and insta dd, isnt really hard.

Yes it is. Exactly because of all those abilities it is very hard to play one decently. Try keeping a red pet charmed while fighting your target in a melee and running ablative at the same time. You'll break your fingers.

You have no clue.
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Postby Toblerone » Feb 01, 2010 15:19

You don't need a clue when you have a passive RA killing everything for you :D

And yes minstrel is indeed very difficult to master.

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Postby vangonaj » Feb 01, 2010 15:21

Toblerone wrote:You don't need a clue when you have a passive RA killing everything for you :D


If you compare viper3´s 120 damage with 240 pet damage...

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 01, 2010 15:23

It can't be compared tbh. 120 damage every few seconds until the assassin runs out of poisoned weapons or a pet that doesn't exist anymore lol.

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Postby Amadeth » Feb 01, 2010 15:24

vangonaj wrote:
Toblerone wrote:You don't need a clue when you have a passive RA killing everything for you :D


If you compare viper3´s 120 damage with 240 pet damage...

learn to interrupt. I haven't met a single NS or ranger that cared to interrupt the sage, but I've met several high RR SBs.

besides, there are no ellyll sages you fear so much in Emain.


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Postby Nymeros » Feb 01, 2010 15:26

vangonaj you really have no idea what you're talking about. You're doing 120 logic damage per tick to all of us here.

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Postby vangonaj » Feb 01, 2010 15:27

Nymeros wrote:vangonaj you really have no idea what you're talking about. You're doing 120 logic damage per tick to all of us here.


Me no. Im not viper user. :grin:

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 01, 2010 15:28

No log in game user too I bet.

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Postby Satz » Feb 01, 2010 15:37

No, he is not a viper3 user, doesnt have enough points for that because he needs to cover purge3 aswell. Hes the only SB i havent seen solo yet, even in agramon, always with another norse, frot or koby SB close by ready to add with BS.

Minstrel is about same as a bard, but without mezz, heal, endu, buffs, instead minstrel has mezz, charm and ablaitiv. He still needs to keep pulsing charm, since its a pulse that continually eats up mana while pulsing ablaitiv or speed. He also cannot play any songs while stealthed and doesnt have mos either. His best defense is his chain armor that is, in fact, covering about same amount of HPs a caster has, baseblock and evade2 as defense propabilities. TBH i dont know a single OFFTANK that wouldnt kill any minstrel within 15 seconds not even giving that minstrel a chance to use his DDs a second time.

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Postby Glacius » Feb 01, 2010 15:59

Satz wrote:No, he is not a viper3 user, doesnt have enough points for that because he needs to cover purge3 aswell. Hes the only SB i havent seen solo yet, even in agramon, always with another norse, frot or koby SB close by ready to add with BS.

Minstrel is about same as a bard, but without mezz, heal, endu, buffs, instead minstrel has mezz, charm and ablaitiv. He still needs to keep pulsing charm, since its a pulse that continually eats up mana while pulsing ablaitiv or speed. He also cannot play any songs while stealthed and doesnt have mos either. His best defense is his chain armor that is, in fact, covering about same amount of HPs a caster has, baseblock and evade2 as defense propabilities. TBH i dont know a single OFFTANK that wouldnt kill any minstrel within 15 seconds not even giving that minstrel a chance to use his DDs a second time.

Mincer is a skald that cannot train parry and is restricted to use 1h , apart from that if we ignore AOTG RA skald has and mincer dont its the same class:P and he s not that weak..especially now that they have 70 ablative MHB 100% corect implemented.
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