Vs pd5 use damage add charge and you will have any chance.

@Devilsfury
It was Marsupi... Just test his damage

ill ganked your hunter(lvl 50) with a lvl 47 infi ...that was very funny !!

yes Im Findya )

btw in thid i have lost fight vs hunter on my lvl so ..think about this

u need to learn how to play a hunter.......
if u stick and so u will get everytime a sidechain and bÄm.....

that was my short statement and thx for the rps

There are some quite good hunters who even go on par with tanks, but an archer is made for archery, not for melee. Get yourself some endupots, long wind, 35+15 bowspec(40+10 at least), and kite. Having a snarestyle will own your enemy hard.

Robustus wrote:ill ganked your hunter(lvl 50) with a lvl 47 infi ...that was very funny !!

yes Im Findya )

btw in thid i have lost fight vs hunter on my lvl so ..think about this

u need to learn how to play a hunter.......
if u stick and so u will get everytime a sidechain and bÄm.....

that was my short statement and thx for the rps

You have kicked my hunters ass I agree. Typically we see eachother at the same time and there is no way to run if my speed is down so im forced to melee fight. What happens?? Viper ticking for 60-70% of my total hitpoints without you even doing anything. Yeah, hunter is real good.

Ronian wrote:@Devilsfury
It was Marsupi... Just test his damage

Have u checked his weapon? It seems like he has some old leg. weapon.
Could be still buggy. Thats my explanation.

A push of 100% dmg is beyond any skill. But it can be explained with leg. weapons! The dmg you mention is the standard dmg vs non pd5 people..

Satz: Hunter doesnt have snare
Robustus: Agree with Devil. Its easier on the other side. But Devil you need Mos4+

Lahia: Use dmg add vs every enemy ~.~. (That made me just laugh. The next advice for sure is: You weapons when u go into a fight.. )

Its not like Devil is dumb or so. He addresses an issues, and all we got is spit on his skills/game knowledge^^. Cant it just be that scissor > paper? And Hunter is paper for the classes you find soloing in Agra? Yep the classes that are soloing. Thats seldom a Wizzard or a Hero/Armsmen.

In principle you could deal with alot classes (kiting) but since that requires alot add-free time, the chance on prime-time are 0.00.

Greetz
Nes

I said this on page 1 of this topic.

Here is food for thought. I just went through the Uthgard Herald and got these stats. Out of the top 450 RP last week these are the numbers that I got:

14 Rangers in the top 450. 7 of them are lvl 50s.
8 Scouts in the top 450. 5 of them are lvl 50s.
4 Hunters in the top 450. 1 was a lvl 50.

That should be enough for most people. One lvl 50 hunter active. Why fight saying that Hunter is not gimp?

There are only 11 Mids in the top 20 LWRP.
It used to be 17 last week.
What does that tell us?
Oh yeah,: If Hunters get in the Top 20 too, there is no more room for Alb and Hib and Mid gets 20/20
Thats probably the reason for .. what?

Robustus wrote:ill ganked your hunter(lvl 50) with a lvl 47 infi ...that was very funny !!

yes Im Findya )

btw in thid i have lost fight vs hunter on my lvl so ..think about this

u need to learn how to play a hunter.......
if u stick and so u will get everytime a sidechain and bÄm.....

that was my short statement and thx for the rps

Infis sux.

Gerbald wrote:There are only 11 Mids in the top 20 LWRP.
It used to be 17 last week.
What does that tell us?
Oh yeah,: If Hunters get in the Top 20 too, there is no more room for Alb and Hib and Mid gets 20/20
Thats probably the reason for .. what?

You are totally lost in what people are saying. No one said hunters should be in the top 20. Not even top 100. The point is that there is 1 lvl 50 Hunter active. ONE. Only 4 active in the top 450. Every class on this server(hib, alb, mid) are more than Hunter. Thats the point. Why is that? Because they need some major love. Sigh...banging head on the wall from people not reading the posts.

Devilsfury - Findya does not have Viper (not even 1) o.O

once again


what should this "love" be which shouldnt be custom or 1.65 or 1.80+ ?

I fail to see where there is a bug here to fix?

Nevermind. I guess its a waste of time to ever bring up intellegent conversation about a class. Ill dumb it down a bit for you guys who fail to see any point that has been brought up.

1- After lvl 50 Hunter will get no roaming groups so that means they must go to Agra solo or try and get stealther group. This means they will be fighting mostly stealther classes 95% of the time.

2- Hunters cant in any way compete vs other stealther classes like assassins. Our melee damage is way low compared to assassins not including poison damage.

3- Your only hope is to add on already going fights to leach RP. Most people get mad about this but 1v1 a hunter will lose the vast majority of battles.

4- Yes, Hunters should be custom. It has been pointed out several times that is now NO active level 50 Hunters on the server. WHY is that?? Nightshades can solo kill, Infils can solo kill, Shadowblades can solo kill, Rangers can solo kill. How about Hunter? Okay, once in 10 tries maybe in a fair 1v1.

5- If your an assassin class then you have NO room to talk. This isnt an assassin flame post but when you boil it down who is our MAIN classes Hunters will fight against? Assassins! We dont have poison, debuff Str/Con, disease, etc etc. We have a worthless pet and spear damage that is so very weak that 1 attack from your duel weild hits HARDER than my 5.3 spd spear with cap Str/Dex.

6- Bow does hit with decent damage but the simple matter is that you cant use bow except when you are adding on someone. Very rare..I mean very rarely can you actually see an assassin and choose crit shot, wait the 5 seconds for it and pray they didnt hear the draw or hope they dont simply turn and hit you.

I rest my case. If you havent gotten it by now there is no reaching you. Thanks for those non assassin guys who actually feel our pain or have played a hunter with the updated Agra content. (not the old easy snipe camps) Most will not care if there are no hunters. I really loved playing mine up until i hit lvl 50. Now there is really no point except for maybe hitting someone in a keep raid.

so basicly because a class doesn't perform all that well they should get a custom love?

what about scouts? they die in pretty much all 1v1s unless their targets purge isn't up

what about animists? they die in pretty much all 1v1s unless their target is a stupid enough to sit inside 30 shrooms

what about .... continue the list urself


starting a custom change wave for 1 class will lead to more custom change waves..

I once again ask: what here should be changed which isn't a custom change to make hunters the next FOTM?


and saying assassins should not have a saying here is just lame .. if you want a discussion you need to include all parties.. also the ones who might not agree with you (and tbh i wouldn't agree with you even if i never had played a ranger or NS or infi or scout)

I did include scouts in some of my posts. IM not saying make us the FOTM with being overpowered. Like i said 1000x before. We need to be able to compete. Some classes just cant. In most normal minds that would mean they need tweaking.
As far as assassins go most if not all tell us to be quiet simply because they are overpowered. Especially with viper but that wasnt what my post was about. Yes, there are about 2-3 classes that really do need custom love/adjustments. Whats wrong with that? If certain classes way under perform should they not get help to make their class viable? Plus the fact that you have never played these classes so its very hard for you to disagree with what im posting.
Ill ask again... why isnt their 1 single active level 50 hunter playing on the server anymore. Why? They must be killing assassins by the hundreds along with Scouts and they are all tired and taking a break.