Joint-Operations wrote:

vangonaj wrote:The only one way to kill ranger is, stun him when he has 15-20% hp, and use damage add.

and use s/c poison again after purge! (at blades most effective)

but NOONE instead of dam/runis do something like that.... so all lose

Totaly agree with you, forget say that.

Joint-Operations wrote:
and use s/c poison again after purge! (at blades most effective)

but NOONE instead of dam/runis do something like that.... so all lose

even if i do it and apply desease on him again, this bow-based-class deals so much dmg in melee that it isnt psbl for me to kill him against his pd. sometimes, with luck, and i hit a ranger to 10%hp, he is able to use ip and win the fight.

maybe i am not that skilled player as u affirm to urself, i know the basics and was able to play all my classes in a successful way to his rr.

BUT the Ranger is absolute untouchable on Uth atm for 90%of all Classes.
even with lower rr.

i meet a 4L2 Ranger in df with my 5L9 SB some days ago. i was full upcharged/potted and use viper2 . he killed me with 65%hp left......
tell it luck- but this is a joke.


not enough that he can use : strong selfbuffs, charges, rangeattack, speed, meleedmg on a BM-table ,
he can spec pd , ip, and can use the debuff and poision from a NS on the actually patch from uth wich makes him OPed atm.

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for nayru,

u asked why we started to talk about ranger now as oped, after the svg ect.

for me, i took a notice on this class these days first, cause i didnt played stealthclasses befor on uth and now Rangers are my main rival in rvr.
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AND i ask again, WHY does hibs search for Ranger in broad if they want do a raid, if this class isnt broken or oped ?

why they didnt want Bm, Champ or Hero as maintank for raids ?

CAUSE RANGERS ARE BETTER OVERALL

My Fully Buff Ranger Doesnt out damage my BM with my BM having NO buffs.
my BM still hit about 15% harder WITH OUT buffs. with buffs its a different story all together...
so people that state that Rangers are on the same Damage Table as BMs dont play both and its very funny, seeing any post stating rangers hit the same.

And people if you Fight a Ranger that RR9+ While your only RR5 Expect to Lose Badly. that +5 skill and they can redo there Spec to get more Archery.

Also theres a GOOD chance you will Lose to some one else the Same RR if your Oponite has a str/con Charge. That helps with damage Alot.

Maybe the people that keep losing to a certain Class ANY class maybe you should talk to people that know how to Own that class.

I've fought SB/INFs that only hit me for 30-40 damage While others will hit me for 110-130+ Its all in the Spec, Skill, And Template.

@Methusalem
First of all stop spreading that nonsense further. Ranger IS NOT on the BM table. A BM would make more than 107 mainhand vs an Armsman (with 0,98 growthrate style and relics; fully buffed/charged).

Anonther stupid thing is saying that str/con doesnt affect the Ranger, of course it does there are 425 hitpoints gone and blade damage must suck. Even my piercing damage is 30+ mainhand damage worse than before the debuff.

In addition a little hint: You can break the speedshout easily with a dd charge.

Moreover with my casters snipers arent really problem, but assassins are. Most of the time they just wait until you are casting and add with bs/pa to kill you. No matter to survive that when they have viper3.

Edit: Ah, you are Stinkebart. You won close last time we fought when I didnt had anything up and you inced directly and I was forced to melee only. So I cant understand your qq.

mthusalem...

we had today 4? figths one of this u didnt won but u killed me after u was dead. fiona killed me this time too, before i needed purge and ip for fiona , now without i lost... madinaa(hunter) is good too he haves already some nice figths with me and ok he lost all until now but he can outdamage me easily, and with rr8 (same rr) i bet he would kill me all time

/cheer madinaa
/flex fiona

Methusalem wrote: i meet a 4L2 Ranger in df with my 5L9 SB some days ago. i was full upcharged/potted and use viper2 . he killed me with 65%hp left......
tell it luck- but this is a joke.

With purge and ip2 up and some playskill its no wonder he still won. Then even viper+vanish is of no use^^. Having 17 more RPs is no guarantee for winning.

Guess it was Damnation you are talking about?

Besides: 90% of all classes have no chance against ranger? Thats plain exaggerated.

Well we could open up a thread about Shaman OPnes in RvR but that will be balanced I guess hum?


What I still dont get: How does it come, that Ranger is supposed to be OP now and not earlier? There have been no changes at all...even the fixing style chains for stealthers havent been introduced yet, which would help alot.

Salidor wrote:Also theres a GOOD chance you will Lose to some one else the Same RR if your Oponite has a str/con Charge. That helps with damage Alot.
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i guess we all play with a s/c charge

Ronian wrote:Anonther stupid thing is saying that str/con doesnt affect the Ranger, of course it does there are 425 hitpoints gone and blade damage must suck.

Edit: Ah, you are Stinkebart. You won close last time we fought when I didnt had anything up and you inced directly and I was forced to melee only. So I cant understand your qq.

i didnt say s/c-debuff doesnt affect a ranger
and why u can understand me now ?

massivmampfer wrote:With purge and ip2 up and some playskill its no wonder he still won.

i forgot to say that he dindnt used ip

Joint-Operations wrote:we had today 4? figths one of this u didnt won but u killed me after u was dead.

yes, in first fight u was unbuffed, in second i was fullbuffed and u had to use ur ip, in 3th i was able to kill u after i was death with a dot on ur ass cause ur ip was down, in 4th fight all was up for u and i loosed disastrous.

so overall, 4 fights- i won 1 after i died cause ur ip was down.

massivmampfer wrote:What I still dont get: How does it come, that Ranger is supposed to be OP now and not earlier? There have been no changes at all...even the fixing style chains for stealthers havent been introduced yet, which would help alot.

There are just more of them since almost every other Hib char is frowned upon as solo character ever since the OF situation as we know got established since soloing with anything else than a stealther or non-speed6 class is a pain in the ass.

Also, more and more players from other realms start(ed) rerolling to rangers due to rumors etc. No wonder you'll get some more good players in there who exploit their char to the fullest.

In braemar there was 1 Meeleranger with 4 lvls below me and he was pwning me 50% of all fights. When my Infi was in Thid, I never noticed strong Rangers. Only a few Bow-Spec-Rangers who killed me some times, sometimes not. But now they all spec Meele and pwn everything.

So the differences between nowdays and 1 year ago are:

-More Rangers today
-Meelespec Rangers today
-Buffpots/Charges

Just my opinion

MY melee huntress was total pwnage in all bg , and now with lvl 50 its total crap , i cant kill anything stealthed when im solo (4L2 rr)


Ranger are op with the nf ras and pre toa server , thats all.

Well you can close this thread now since OF RAs are coming.

Sure hope the server survives this.

Braxis wrote:Well you can close this thread now since OF RAs are coming.

Sure hope the server survives this.

This server can survive a lot. Some players will quit, some mothballed classes will be brought back to life, some new people will join us. Players come and go, characters come and go, the server lives on.

Viva Uthgard!

ALL PLAYERS WHO ROLL RANGER, DELATE HIM. START ROLL NIGHTSHADE YOU WILL HAVE VIPER!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDD

Rangers will still pwn, AP, 100 %IP + FA2 to kite with speed, Dodger etc. All assasins loose viper so with AP its god mode every 15mins. Camo is just on 10min timer so yes will be afk when its down or move around like a twister to avoid beeing PA´d.

Next fotm will be NS with AP, WA, viper. So the whine will still go on. Remember a NS fights next to rangers.
I say stealther wars will be even more unbalanced after this in favor to hib, and btw WTB high rr mincer, they are sweet with old RA´s ^^

Gil wrote:

Braxis wrote:Well you can close this thread now since OF RAs are coming.

Sure hope the server survives this.

This server can survive a lot. Some players will quit, some mothballed classes will be brought back to life

Which ones ? Wizard, friar, warden, thane ? Champs who get their self buff nerfed ? Vw, reaver and paladin who will lose their place in a group becasue they'll stand in cc forever, like it wasn't bad enough already to play a melee class and stand rooted for 20 seconds now it has to be tripled ? Oh yeah, the improvements are vast