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Postby Force » Jan 11, 2010 03:26

vangonaj wrote:
Blue wrote:I would more like to see old Thidranki at level 20.


Implement old bg system!!!!!!!! :D



please!

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Postby hopscotsch » Jan 11, 2010 03:53

arnius wrote:
calistar wrote:1) An ideal bg will be the minimum level player will con at least green to the cap level. It's silly to have greys running around in bg and if u kill them u don't even get anything out from them. BG=battleground=An RP place.

2) Cap Thid bg to RR4I9. Thid has the least action compared to the rest of the other 2 bgs and to xp from lvl 40-49, it takes much more time & kills. So, it'd be nice to have RR cap raised slightly higher. This will also motivate players to get RR5 in frontier.


Yeah this is something that would help people get 5L0, however it would be a bit unfair to all who are 50 4l2 now, maybe do thid 50 4l9 for 2 or 3 weeks so they can get even.

BTW
BG setup for me with addition of 1 BG:

first BG, Braemar
lvl 20 - 26 RR cap 2l2

second BG, Wilton
lvl 27 - 34 RR cap 3l2

third BG, Thidranki
lvl 35 - 42 RR cap 4l2

fourth BG, Molvik
lvl 43 - 49, RR cap 4l9

BTW
BG setup for me with addition of 2 BG's:

first BG, Braemar
lvl 20 - 24 RR cap 2l0

second BG, Wilton
lvl 25 - 29 RR cap 3l0

third BG, Thidranki
lvl 30 - 36 RR cap 4l0

fourth BG, Molvik
lvl 37 - 43, RR cap 4l5

fifth BG, Leirvik
lvl 44 - 49, RR cap 4l9


A classic server with this setting and uthgards population would be alot of fun.

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Postby Umilard » Jan 11, 2010 09:54

Blue wrote:I would more like to see old Thidranki at level 20.


Me too, just becouse the old thidranki has a very simple layout and is amazing for fast solo action. It's the best way to get new people to try RvR and learning the basics of their class while having fun.

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Postby Nymeros » Jan 11, 2010 19:19

As long as there's no timers I'm good with anything.

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Postby scythe111 » Jan 19, 2010 02:09

hopscotsch wrote:
arnius wrote:
calistar wrote:1) An ideal bg will be the minimum level player will con at least green to the cap level. It's silly to have greys running around in bg and if u kill them u don't even get anything out from them. BG=battleground=An RP place.

2) Cap Thid bg to RR4I9. Thid has the least action compared to the rest of the other 2 bgs and to xp from lvl 40-49, it takes much more time & kills. So, it'd be nice to have RR cap raised slightly higher. This will also motivate players to get RR5 in frontier.


Yeah this is something that would help people get 5L0, however it would be a bit unfair to all who are 50 4l2 now, maybe do thid 50 4l9 for 2 or 3 weeks so they can get even.

BTW
BG setup for me with addition of 1 BG:

first BG, Braemar
lvl 20 - 26 RR cap 2l2

second BG, Wilton
lvl 27 - 34 RR cap 3l2

third BG, Thidranki
lvl 35 - 42 RR cap 4l2

fourth BG, Molvik
lvl 43 - 49, RR cap 4l9

BTW
BG setup for me with addition of 2 BG's:

first BG, Braemar
lvl 20 - 24 RR cap 2l0

second BG, Wilton
lvl 25 - 29 RR cap 3l0

third BG, Thidranki
lvl 30 - 36 RR cap 4l0

fourth BG, Molvik
lvl 37 - 43, RR cap 4l5

fifth BG, Leirvik
lvl 44 - 49, RR cap 4l9


A classic server with this setting and uthgards population would be alot of fun.


Amen!!

Lumping 20's in with 35 is just silly. Nobody likes to get destroyed all day, and new players are going to remember that and that alone.

Definitely need a lowbie bg! Look at all the lowbies on in cots (I'm Alb)! We could be having so much fun! ><

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Postby scythe111 » Jan 22, 2010 09:41

ConnorM wrote:There absolutely should be a lower level bg. I am new to this server, leveling my first char, and I am getting so terribly bored of solo pveing. If I didn't love DAoC as much as I do, or if I was a new player or new to the server, I definitely would have quit by now. I fail to see how 20-28ish lvl people rvring in a bg is going to hurt anybody else.


^^^Ditto.

I actually said to a group mate while leveling "If I wasn't such a die hard DAoC fan, I'd have quit by now." Nobody said the BG's have to be full! 1-2 in there is plenty! If anybody remembers Braemar from live, nobody was ever in there, but nobody ever even suggested taking it out. BG's= easy place to xp, while offering excitement around every corner :twisted:

(Sorry for double post but it's been a while in this thread)

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Postby Amadeth » Jan 22, 2010 11:05

/vote low level bg
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Postby Rizla » Jan 23, 2010 06:59

Amadeth wrote:/vote low level bg


i agree, an earlier bg and a higher entrance lvl for the now first bg would be, intresting.

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Postby scythe111 » Jan 23, 2010 08:08

I don't think the above suggestion goes far enough. There are plenty of players to justify ALL of the old BG's. Why not give players a nice place to level 1-20? I'm new,

and I've been having trouble finding a place to go level. A BG fixes many problems (including BOREDOM)!

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Postby nixian » Jan 23, 2010 11:15

Please have the respect of the discussion and go back and read some reasons why there shouldn't be more BGs instead of thinking from your own little perfect garden of eden where you are from :)

there is a few reasons why this has been a discussion and not just a /agree list

I don't think the above suggestion goes far enough. There are plenty of players to justify ALL of the old BG's. Why not give players a nice place to level 1-20? I'm new,


There has already been given reasons why a 1-20 BG can't and will not come here try read a bit back

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Postby Ithiggi » Jan 23, 2010 12:08

Weia wrote:
nixian wrote:tbh you should get more self discipline then and explain to your grp members why you can't stay on


Yes, sure, simple solutions are the best solutions. I wonder why I didn't think of that. I guess DAoC being a bit of an addiction is really just me and noone else. I feel so lonely now :(

However, on topic:

tvpro wrote:Bring back the old BGs aswell.


That would be

Thidranki lv20-24
Murdaigean lv25-29
Caledonia lv30-35

Much more reasonable level ranges, and removing competition for levelgroups from the high level ranges, where exping really starts to hurt. You might actually start seeing levelgroups in remote areas like vanern, where you can't quickly switch back to the BGs again. And as an added bonus, if the final push to 50 was 15 levels instead of 1, you're much less likely to give up real RvR too easily.

And as a compensation, make going to the frontiers for sub50 chars more attractive again. Repair all the broken camps (ammount, respwn, Bone-Eaters should use the vendo model, not werewolf :) ), give a bonus competitive with DF, and maybe even let frontiermobs drop some DF seals. My frist main broke 100k RPs long before lv50 - actually, before any battlegrounds or even RAs got patched in. And that was even more fun than BG action :)


I agree 110% this was the classic bg set up !

And I also agree about soloing sometimes it is fun but I don't see soloing in a negative way. Sometimes there is no group. If I ask for a group a few times and I don't get a group I solo no big deal. The "grind" here is way easier/faster then pre SI and even post SI.

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Postby Xantham » Jan 25, 2010 01:31

i miss molvik so much when playing on Uthgard...

<3 molvik.
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Postby scythe111 » Jan 25, 2010 02:00

nixian wrote:Please have the respect of the discussion and go back and read some reasons why there shouldn't be more BGs instead of thinking from your own little perfect garden of eden where you are from :)

there is a few reasons why this has been a discussion and not just a /agree list

I don't think the above suggestion goes far enough. There are plenty of players to justify ALL of the old BG's. Why not give players a nice place to level 1-20? I'm new,


There has already been given reasons why a 1-20 BG can't and will not come here try read a bit back


I've read back, and I've read the flawed logic behind those disagreements. The arguments are

1. People will flock to the lowbie BG's and leave OF deserted.
---- Answer? If people want that, LET THEM. If they really have more fun in lowbie BG's, then why prevent them from doing so?! I'm not saying that would happen (because it wouldn't).

2. Not enough people to justify it in the zones in question.
---- Answer? Have you ever typed /who 11, 12, 13, 14, 15?? I just did, and I counted 12. Twelve is MORE than enough to justify a BG. They aren't a zerg-zone.

I'm suggesting 5-9 10-14 15-19, not 1-20.

I've read YOUR reasons, nixian. Please remember that your opinions on the topic have as much weight as anyone else's. Let's not confuse your opinion with the consensus.

This remains a debate.

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Postby nixian » Jan 25, 2010 02:05

ofc scythe111

however staff has plenty of times stated that this:

1. People will flock to the lowbie BG's and leave OF deserted.
---- Answer? If people want that, LET THEM. If they really have more fun in lowbie BG's, then why prevent them from doing so?! I'm not saying that would happen (because it wouldn't).


They do not want .. because in some of the lvl 1-20 bgs you can /xp off and never leave.. they do not want people to be able to do so (that's why there is no /rp off on this server too)

they do not want people to be able to stick to BGs as daoc is about 50 rvr for them and on this server.. so saying its an invalid argument and that we should keep discussing it seems senseless to me as the staff has already stated they will not implement a 1-20 BG for several reasons


I don't mind discussing more BGs - but could we please move away from the suggestions that has already been rejected by the staff?

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Postby Zetmor » Jan 25, 2010 12:44

Hi. I'm new here. Just a quick post to ask... what the actual BG setup is?
Because I don't find the info anywhere (not in home nor any sticky post about it).
That would be a cool enhancement of the home page of the web site: newws are great, but it would be cool to have a permanent page describing the shard for newcomers ; the specific rules of the server (classic/of), the BG, info about that modified v1.80 specifics (craft version, etc...). Because it's a bit difficult to find all the info deep in the forum. :D
Anyway, my first concern is about the actual BG setup. Where it is, indeed? :D
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