Neju wrote:

Glacius wrote:And yes..we r lucky to have all types of players in mid that do RVR , good ones bad ones.

because it's easy on mid, and so you can just full grps with crap players and still have fun winning fights...

mid is easier realm to play and so it's easier to get new people into rvr and being successful, which keeps them wanting to come back.

hib/alb are harder to keep winning fights and so keep the spirit of the group up..

just look at the number of hib guilds that have made it to 4lX and quit because of pure frustration... and these are guild groups and so actually have more dedication than random pugs.

Sorry but you ' re totally wrong.
Albs has theurgist , bladeturn song give an easy job to pally and 2000 range pets spamming = instant win ; a crappy theurgist can do it good

I stop now , anyway you will never accept you ' re wrong.
Its a story without ending , i understand it well

Stormha wrote:Sorry but you ' re totally wrong.
Albs has theurgist , bladeturn song give an easy job to pally and 2000 range pets spamming = instant win ; a crappy theurgist can do it good

awesome

you know mids have runemasters right... they have pbt.. oh and nice dmg and nearsight and a great rr5...

theurgs have.. pbt, pets that get 1 or 2shot, mana issues and die like flies...

but no use argueing with a warrior who thinks that pala using 2.4thruster dmg is better than warrior

Neju wrote:

Stormha wrote:Sorry but you ' re totally wrong.
Albs has theurgist , bladeturn song give an easy job to pally and 2000 range pets spamming = instant win ; a crappy theurgist can do it good

awesome

you know mids have runemasters right... they have pbt.. oh and nice dmg and nearsight and a great rr5...

theurgs have.. pbt, pets that get 1 or 2shot, mana issues and die like flies...

but no use argueing with a warrior who thinks that pala using 2.4thruster dmg is better than warrior

im agree ,mid casters teams ( rc rune , dark rm...) is surely hardest group , but the fight issue depends group teamplay and casters/support skills.


About melee group , you can choose 1 skald , 1 rm ,or skald +rm but :

1/ 75% mids group run without runemaster
2/ 90% mids runemaster are very bad
3/without skald you cant run bladeturn song ( blue ^^)
4/ RR5 rm is bugged , sorcerer rr5 is much better

When a good dark rm kick an alb group, its because they do the same error every time (melee dd folowing him till overextend) ; sorry but a minimum of preasure of him + pets spamming is easy play.

If you just played smarter .. , you will understand a mid group with skilled players ( for example anguish ) is not so difficult


Ps : ASk hedra to comparate 1 hand warrior melee damage and 1 hand pally melee damage ( same speed) ^^

Stormha wrote:1/ 75% mids group run without runemaster
2/ 90% mids runemaster are very bad
3/without skald you cant run bladeturn song ( blue ^^)
4/ RR5 rm is bugged , sorcerer rr5 is much better

1 - that's your own fault... don't complain theurg is OP if you choose to run without a rm.

2 - 90% mids are very bad

3 - dont understand this, do you mean runemaster?

4 - it's hardly bugged, check the grabbags/what mythic has said... for this patch limit its working as intended

holsten-knight wrote:Actually this week our grp only formed on monday, since some people had some rl things to do, the rest of the week i joined/formed pug grps... and you can't win a single fight out there in emain, even as an op mid grp

every day was like 10k rp in 3-4 hours, done by ganking some solos or rushing df.

Because the only grps running in emain are good 8-slot grps. During this week i could witness at least 3 new players who lost any interest in doing 50 rvr ever again.

Call me a bad looser, but in this situation i will form 16 slot grps in the future, to at least have a chance.

I am sorry i can do this only in mid, 'cause i only have a mid char, as i agree mid needs this the least.

So whats the excuse for running 4slot in Odins?

A reputation to uphold?

No excuse for running 4 slot in odins... well we startet with 2, got killled by 6 albs, came back with 4 had some nice fights aginst 4-6 alb and hib grps and stayed a while. At least after the first 30 mins we did not kill solos anymore... except stealthers of course

but we could also have startet with 4, we are not in for a fairness medal.

We never denied we zerged our rr 'til 6 and i even see nothing bad in it, thats daoc

Stormha wrote:

Neju wrote:

Glacius wrote:And yes..we r lucky to have all types of players in mid that do RVR , good ones bad ones.

because it's easy on mid, and so you can just full grps with crap players and still have fun winning fights...

mid is easier realm to play and so it's easier to get new people into rvr and being successful, which keeps them wanting to come back.

hib/alb are harder to keep winning fights and so keep the spirit of the group up..

just look at the number of hib guilds that have made it to 4lX and quit because of pure frustration... and these are guild groups and so actually have more dedication than random pugs.

Sorry but you ' re totally wrong.
Albs has theurgist , bladeturn song give an easy job to pally and 2000 range pets spamming = instant win ; a crappy theurgist can do it good

I stop now , anyway you will never accept you ' re wrong.
Its a story without ending , i understand it well

/laugh

No true.

Alb is kinda equal to mid with theurg, sorc, (cabby).

Theurg always has been OPed. Guess why he got nerved on live and should be removed from the Origins ruleset.

Alb has very strong rvr setups. Which is why alb has many strong rvr guilds.

A livelike theurg may be op sure.. but on uthgard they are pretty bugged

Ice pets that instead of cast just go melee.. there by giving free CC immunity
Ice pets that also have like a 45% resist chance vs lvl 50 targets

A RR5 thats pretty crappy on uthgard

Earthpets that don't have as much hp as on live and so die alot easier..

don't get me wrong, they are a strong class and are necessary to have success, but they are not as good as they could be

Good enough

Resists or dmg of pets doesnt matter

Toblerone wrote:

Stormha wrote:

Neju wrote:

Glacius wrote:And yes..we r lucky to have all types of players in mid that do RVR , good ones bad ones.

because it's easy on mid, and so you can just full grps with crap players and still have fun winning fights...

mid is easier realm to play and so it's easier to get new people into rvr and being successful, which keeps them wanting to come back.

hib/alb are harder to keep winning fights and so keep the spirit of the group up..

just look at the number of hib guilds that have made it to 4lX and quit because of pure frustration... and these are guild groups and so actually have more dedication than random pugs.

Sorry but you ' re totally wrong.
Albs has theurgist , bladeturn song give an easy job to pally and 2000 range pets spamming = instant win ; a crappy theurgist can do it good

I stop now , anyway you will never accept you ' re wrong.
Its a story without ending , i understand it well

/laugh

Y toblerone Bladeturn is the stronger Spell with spamming pets ^^
Remember last night , we runned with a 48 supp Rm , for i hit an infiltrator (2 hand hammer) , you lost 20 seconde try to stun me ; and you cannot do it

Maybe you see now why bladeturn is so op , Magical barrier , miss , miss , magica barrier , block , miss , miss , magical barrier héhé

You still lost. Bladeturn isn't OP, and I never spent 20 seconds to slam you. What's with your constant need to exaggerate ?

/laugh

Toblerone wrote:You still lost. Bladeturn isn't OP, and I never spent 20 seconds to slam you. What's with your constant need to exaggerate ?

/laugh

you lost 20 seconde y ^^
We loose 1 times against you after 5 mn fight ( no pac healer and rm lvl 48 ) , when 4 stealthers adding .
You lost the opportunity to keep quiet lol

Albs anguish reroll was really harder than your group ; rr4 group how do you explain it supa skilled toblerone ?

/laugh

Stormha wrote:We loose 1 times against you

Epic. Nah you lost plenty of times. So often that you had a temper tantrum and logged an alb char to flame me ingame, remember ?