siegemaster wrote:dont forget this is a fun server, not a reeducation camp. why should people get used to bad changes? its not like there is no other choice.

damn, you can even load a backup, i dont think anyone has made good rp the last few days

Who exactly are you to decide what is a good change and what is not a good change?

Every player is entitled to have his own oppinion. No one has to ask your permission to state it.

Umgssda wrote:Every player is entitled to have his own oppinion. No one has to ask your permission to state it.

Exactly

My opinion is: I would like to have the Agramon teleporters back, maybe the old way, maybe set back a bit towards the bridges, together with the camps.
I have heard many people who think similar.
Thats my opinion and i will tell it.

The Staff does not agree obviously.

I didnt start a poll yet, because i know the staff would see that as an attack directed at them, but my fingers are itching ...

I am sorry, but this:

siegemaster wrote:dont forget this is a fun server, not a reeducation camp. why should people get used to bad changes? its not like there is no other choice.

damn, you can even load a backup, i dont think anyone has made good rp the last few days

does not look like an opinion to me, instead it looks like someone is stating a fact followed by a proposal for a server rollback.


opinion =/= fact


OT:
Why does EVERY discussion on this forum have to go round and round in circles lately? That discussion about "stealthwars" is the perfect example, it's like people are doing a copy/paste of their messages for the last 10 pages, and this topic looks like it's going in the same direction.

Zaraki you really dont play much so lets uhm say your opinion doesnt really matter.

Sound about right then? I would rather hear from players that have played the new changes then someone who would rather harrass people.

I spent 2 hours wondering tonight in agramon and its branches to finally see a FG xping and died of course. I should have waited but after two hours then I rushed my tactics. So I wasted 2 hours. 2 hours!

I have kids, a family and a business that I run and I wasted 2 hours to do nothing. zip. I learned a great deal about politics in /b between other players so I cannot take it as a total waste. I could have joined the chat lines to do that.

I think Uth is a Fantastic mod but I will no longer play. I spent way to much time setting up toons that are useless now. Maybe someday you will come up with a fix but maybe this is for the best. Summer is coming and its beautiful outside.

GL on the server but I think you really made a mistake here.

I apologize to my guild and my realm for giving up. Its been a nice 2 years. I hope I did not offend any players and if I did then I apologize.

Guten Nacht my friends

Denasti wrote:Zaraki you really dont play much so lets uhm say your opinion doesnt really matter.

Sound about right then? I would rather hear from players that have played the new changes then someone who would rather harrass people.

Yeah totally, cause you know which toons I play and how much I play them.

As soon as someone disagrees with you and makes sense, block it in your mind and call it harassement, that is a healthy way of thinking.

The rest of your text was tl;dr except the part that you're quitting, so uhm GOOD RIDDANCE. (in case you are wondering if you should yell HARASSMENT!!1 again, no that is not harassment, that is a way to say goodbye to quitters)

Zaraki wrote:Who exactly are you to decide what is a good change and what is not a good change?

im a default_player on uthgard. did you actually read the last 10 pages in this thread ?

The new system is good, i get all the time 8vs8 in few min. The problem is in the morning when only soloers are roaming... I don't know if the staff already realized how many time 1 class without speed need for move from 1 enemy zone to another enemy zone with no speed.... about 10 min. This is really a lot of time, you should do something or we lose the morning rvr in uthgard.

PS: An idea to help soloer/party without speed can be enable personal horse or create a new kind of potions with the same effect of realm speed.

adding rvr personal horses would truely help a lot

panachier wrote:i noticed an evolution since the new system is on.

stealthers camp boat/horse in place of gates ( maybe that's the reason why some people complain about kiting to camp ^^)

players are camping keeps in place of camp.

and sure that agra is empty and you loggout after a "fight" but maybe that'll change

Exactly to the point. Enough said.

not expected to get such a statement by you.. you can choose to see the glass half empty, or half full.. it's your choice how you want to see it, just because it's a change it dosen't mean things will get worse, maybe they'll for you because you're a camping stealther other than that there's not much bad changes, just we'll finally get to use a better RvR system(NF) and XP spots not being camped 24-7 by people like you in Agra.

have a good time of daoc, you may need it, dont come back
bye

panachier wrote:it's not a reason at all...

i don't see what it'll change. if it's to delay the groups roaming in agra you could use a timed porter. or anything else. that kills solo rvr ( except for stealther that can choose to not die when group around). the rvr areas will be the same...

i really don't see any reason.

there has been more post about " please i am a archer i am weak i need a boost" but it would be stupid too to give them what they ask.

i read somewhere that blue got a 99% whining resist, let's say it's bad luck and they hit you critically. i hope you'll change your mind and find a solution for people that don't want to spend time on boat and prefere rvring.

edit: come on blue be serious, only noob would use horse to give free RPs. boat is the only serious way to move but the problem is that boats are buggy so that's why using a timer to port would be even better than the actual solution.

Denasti wrote:Zaraki you really dont play much so lets uhm say your opinion doesnt really matter.

Hm saying that to a player thats on this server for alot more then a year, plays few hours every day and has few 50 toons and more then a dozen 40+

Unrelated to the quote above i think that staff should implement some kind of voting option where for example all lvl50 players can vote on some major changes. Not just a few forum visitors.

I have been on this server for 6 months now and have never been ready to just give up on it. I'm sick of PVE but it seems now in US evenings typically around 200 players logged in But nobody in the frontiers. Granted it was rarely super busy in the frontiers during US primetimes but typically you could find some fights if you paid attention.
Now the only action is in the BG's or PvE.


Personally I could care less if I have to run for 5 minutes, if we have ports, timed ports, boats, guard camps, horse routes to get to the fights, I just want some players to have a fight with out in the frontiers.

Obviously the way it is now has discouraged more people than it has encouraged.

I feel like I Ground 2 toons to 50 for nothing.

This server has more population than ever before, but fewer doing level 50 RvR Something obviously is wrong and many are getting discouraged fast. I know several who have already given up. I love this game and love this server.

But DEVS please do something to get people out in the frontiers again!
Just give some sort of incentive for people to come and they will.

Maybe this is working out great for Euro primetime, but for us Americans it downright sucks.

as every change, it just needs some time till people figure out their new points to camp, find inc and fight...

when the change from emain to agramon was taken... what an outcry... after we had agramon for 4 weeks or so, people have found out where to go to find inc...

it just takes some time

For me the most biggest obstacle to go out as solo is teleport line to keep. It just sucks so hard when i need to take a boat to beno just because some one wants to take df open by claiming 1 tower.

So usually when i see port line broken, log out and see whats on thid. And yes i am lazy but soloing is for me just a time when no ppl to group.