My account on live server ended 25 february,my main is a theurg but i have also a reaver and a melee heretic only for 1 vs 1 there (the uber style on flex weapon is the side one, and because i'm not specced 42 shield on my heretic, i need to stun em with side stun style of shield) so i can certanly say that if u strafe ur miss rate is more more more less of miss rate on uthgard... The miss rate on live will increase and become high if u start to circlestrafe that is different (that is all that caster do on live when a melee class is on em).

Danny wrote:

Shakespeare wrote:Yyrd a vw do a side style to you strafing...Strafing is not a bug, so why u wanna do /call gm?

Btw i wanna know why on this server 70% of style done strafing are missed?
My poor braemar vw is always missing while strafing qq =(...


Leonedilernia firbolg strafer vw ...

Hrhr, took you almost the entire fight to get one off at me. Too bad that Luri Ranger added or we woulda had a nice fight. That I probably woulda won.

Do u were in the grp of 2 hunter and 1 skald where i killed all 3 yesterday?
I cannot imagine how u can kill me if u lose 3 vs 1^^...ur grp killed me when u were 3 hunter 1 skald and 1 bd, and than i qtd because 1 vs 3 is fun, but 1 vs 5 is impossible.


Edit: I'm with thattered sleeves and pants that are lvl 3 or 4 stuff and with 3 af.

Maybe straffing is not a bug or can't be punish becouse the game is designed that way but everione know that it is an abuse and a lame way to play.
Strafing circle> better stop moving and just face till your target move again you will miss much less (but still a lot). But eniway if someone in your group do that ask him for stop it could be a self-realm control of fair play.
Most stealthers are playing really lame imop, maybe is product of the new specs with viper(op)+vanish+endupot FTW. I'll just try to scape of this kind of fights 1vs1.

Rapiz wrote:Maybe straffing is not a bug or can't be punish becouse the game is designed that way but everione know that it is an abuse and a lame way to play.

Sorry but do u think that in a 1 vs 1 we have to stay one in front of other and the char that makes more dmg wins? If this is what u think char as vw (this patch) or berserker have not way to win a duel against shield class.

rofl ;) a VW who cry about positional bug abuse . It s a joke no ?

sorry for that but it s really funny to see this topic ;) i would like have a better computer to fraps cespx.

Of course bug abuse must be punished but one of the bigger bug abuser post to jail other player to do the same .... sorry but XD

cloug wrote:rofl a VW who cry about positional bug abuse . It s a joke no ?

sorry for that but it s really funny to see this topic i would like have a better computer to fraps cespx.

Of course bug abuse must be punished but one of the bigger bug abuser post to jail other player to do the same .... sorry but XD

Sorry but what cespx says is:

I didnt know where to post it so i'm sorry if it's a wrong place.

Rule 5.4 says:
§5.4 Running and jumping through enemies in order to cause the out-of-view bug is forbidden and will be punished.

And i belive this pic:
http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eshheele5.jpg
proves that Eshhe broke it. As you can see i was still getting hit she/he couldnt be too far away, behind the hill or something.

Cespx

He is speaking about running and jumping through enemies. U say that cespx is the first bugabuser but vw at the current patch have only side style as uber style so i think that he for use that style only do strafe THAT ISN'T A BUG or a bad way to play...Running through for results not in view is a bug and is what esshee do in the image posted by cespx.

Shakespeare wrote:

Danny wrote:

Shakespeare wrote:Yyrd a vw do a side style to you strafing...Strafing is not a bug, so why u wanna do /call gm?

Btw i wanna know why on this server 70% of style done strafing are missed?
My poor braemar vw is always missing while strafing qq =(...


Leonedilernia firbolg strafer vw ...

Hrhr, took you almost the entire fight to get one off at me. Too bad that Luri Ranger added or we woulda had a nice fight. That I probably woulda won.

Do u were in the grp of 2 hunter and 1 skald where i killed all 3 yesterday?
I cannot imagine how u can kill me if u lose 3 vs 1^^...ur grp killed me when u were 3 hunter 1 skald and 1 bd, and than i qtd because 1 vs 3 is fun, but 1 vs 5 is impossible.


Edit: I'm with thattered sleeves and pants that are lvl 3 or 4 stuff and with 3 af.

The times I saw you I was solo. Only time I grp'd was to take CK from Albs. Then I had a 1 vs 2 with you where you slashed me with your Scythe and a Ranger was pumping me full of arrows and I still got you to 30%

EDIT: I'm the guy in dark brown and forest green.

Oh ok, now i remember, but the ranger was in grp with me, wasn't a random adder..Our strategy was: go near wall, waiting for the ranger pop up, and then kill him with arrows and lifedrain.

yyrd and danny maybe split the topic, cause i really don't see the relation with this one...

in topic:

could you explain me the difference between the "you can see your target" and the "you side style your target"? cause i really don't understand the difference. why one should be bug abuse and the other should be skilled of uber players?

both are bug abuse i think and are done by unfair player... if your chars is designed to not have anytime stun why would you be allowed to bug abuse to get one? and why would you spend points in shield so, if your class has positional style...

and if it's allowed, dont complain about the slam+ leviathan = death cause you wouldn't need slam to do leviathan.

panachier wrote:yyrd and danny maybe split the topic, cause i really don't see the relation with this one...

in topic:

could you explain me the difference between the "you can see your target" and the "you side style your target"? cause i really don't understand the difference. why one should be bug abuse and the other should be skilled of uber players?

both are bug abuse i think and are done by unfair player... if your chars is designed to not have anytime stun why would you be allowed to bug abuse to get one? and why would you spend points in shield so, if your class has positional style...

and if it's allowed, dont complain about the slam+ leviathan = death cause you wouldn't need slam to do leviathan.

Because for "U cannot see your target" this mean that ur target is on your body, and running through is a bug... Move on the left side or on the right side of your target is a bug? lol and why?

Shakespeare wrote:

Rapiz wrote:Maybe straffing is not a bug or can't be punish becouse the game is designed that way but everione know that it is an abuse and a lame way to play.

Sorry but do u think that in a 1 vs 1 we have to stay one in front of other and the char that makes more dmg wins? If this is what u think char as vw (this patch) or berserker have not way to win a duel against shield class.

I wasn't talking about straffe to place a hit that is normal play for me, I talked about straffe abuse like in circles or permanent straffe to make imposible to hit.

the u dont see your target blablu is a uthgard bug, demiurgo posted a youtube test how this can happen. The thing with sidestyles etc is working like on live server.

Traget is not in view was removed for melee range some time ago.

But only for casters.. Tanks still miss their swings if enemy strafes round. Sometimes you dont get the oov message , but still the swing is missing... and then this delay bug +suck+