Stasis wrote:I was waiting for this skill post

It has nothing to do with "skill", it's a DAOC thing. There are many cracks/windows on gates, keeps etc. where you can jump through or get line of sight on something etc., it doesn't seem right but I don't consider it a bug. Besides, once they're inside they're basically sitting ducks. Wait for guard repop, get 5-6 people inside and ****** them up...what's the problem? Can you prove this was done by window dragging, finding a crack in the actual solid wall where you can go through or is it just JUMPING THROUGH A WINDOW like you can do on many keeps and on milegates?

If any kind of window dragging was used for this, I vote for a 10 day ban and the bug getting fixed .

@Fremster

Proof of what, that you can jump through windows in DAOC? It's getting ridiculous .

Valfar wrote:

Stasis wrote:@Fremster

Proof of what, that you can jump through windows in DAOC? It's getting ridiculous .

Whether it is considered bug abuse, or a valid mechanic.

No need to reset the relics, we already have them back . We spent multiple hours demoralizing the NA mids by denying them fights, then AJing them twice at which point they rage quit and we took the relics.

fremster wrote:

Valfar wrote:

Stasis wrote:@Fremster

Proof of what, that you can jump through windows in DAOC? It's getting ridiculous .

Whether it is considered bug abuse, or a valid mechanic.

Agreed on that. GM should look into it and decide if it's a bug or not. If it turns out to be a bug, then we need to make invisible barriers on milegate windows too, because it should apply to any other window/crack in the wall in game.

Bann. No need so player on Uthgard.

Slap on the wrist, and a relic reset.

And just make the window impossible to walk through.

Case closed, next give back Evern

Namecalling people for something you THINK is a bugabuse on forum is not really nice.
You should have just sent it to a GM so he/she can check.

And my thoughts on this:
Imho its not a bugabuse. Just OF keep design and an agile Flumper.
Also I think its nice to have a 2nd entry to the room that takes a little risk and skill to enter. Maybe if people from 2003 would have known about it this would not have happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZ7NeSgYwY
If you want to be safe as defender, just go inside the inner keep.

Inner keep is a crap place to be, not much LoS killing attackers

Stasis wrote:Inner keep is a crap place to be, not much LoS killing attackers

Blame OF keep design then but not the player.

Kimharhi wrote:Everything Satharial states is true, I have my own screenshots of evidence as well. They basically jumped in and killed everyone while getting spreadhealed from below.

Same for me I was in this room and took screenshots too, this room was created for defenders when doors broken or too much SB on wall, its cleary a bug exploit not intended by dev.

Sad Mid (and not only one newbie... all merit of flump suddenly gone forever ^^) have to cheat to win, its always weaks that need to do that usually ^^

Wait answer of uth team asap, and glad to take back our relics soon with a real lead who never cheat thx romu

F.

Edit thx for night team to take relics back, usually I condemn relics taken when 90% of players sleeping no merit (Its an european server if i'm right ^^) but justice was done, hope next time mid will take it again without cheating, and I will the 1st to applause if no bug exploit and not too late to let a chance to few defenders

falcona wrote:

Kimharhi wrote:Everything Satharial states is true, I have my own screenshots of evidence as well. They basically jumped in and killed everyone while getting spreadhealed from below.

Same for me I was in this room and took screenshots too, this room was created for defenders when doors broken or too much SB on wall, its cleary a bug exploit not intended by dev.

Sad Mid (and not only one newbie... all merit of flump suddenly gone forever ^^) have to cheat to win, its always weaks that need to do that usually ^^

Wait answer of uth team asap, and glad to take back our relics soon with a real lead who never cheat thx romu

F.

I guess you are one of the original developers of DAOC, since you know how the window mechanics work. Can you provide any evidence that on live servers you couldn't jump through this window, or if you initially could that it was fixed? If so, I would love to see it fixed too so we don't have any pointless discussions.

Valfar wrote:Are you mentally handicapped or something? There is a window there and you can jump through it from the wall.

You would get a permanent ban from me for the first sentence alone. But I'm not in charge here.


Anyways, there are doors for a reason, if you are supposed to jump through the windows, there would be no doors in the first place. This alone makes it an exploit.

Valfar wrote:Can you provide any evidence that on live servers you couldn't jump through this window, or if you initially could that it was fixed?

The list of bugs exploits will never end and new ones created everyday even on live servers ^^

Imagine 1s if we could jump through windows lords in keep, we will not need rams anymore ! stealth could do 100% of job ^^
Maybe we can if we search (I fall accidentaly in the walls of bled last weeks...) but i will not try to do things not wanted by original dev, not in their heads but just logical ^^

F.

Valfar i had my suspicion but now i am sure, you are an idiot.
Anyone who played that game now that no enemies can/should be able to enter that room. Whatever the mechanic used it is a bug abuse.
The fact that there is people arguing about that is beyond ridiculous.

wlf wrote:Valfar i had my suspicion but now i am sure, you are an idiot.
Anyone who played that game now that no enemies can/should be able to enter that room. Whatever the mechanic used it is a bug abuse.
The fact that there is people arguing about that is beyond ridiculous.

Tremendous!