Gil wrote:These flames have caused many Albs to stop RvRing so the natural result: Mids take the 3 Strength relics in a 5 AM relic raid.

+1 Agree, this legal radar remove all interesting action, inc when we are door 2 always existed and very interesting and fun but after killing 1st guard... where is the challenge ?

We have much more time now whe have nothing to defend thx !

Don't think alb doesnt play anymore they keep on follow our great leader Romu in many events (2 sundays ! thanks to him ^^) sorry no more free easy RP for mid

Many wait Hibs wake up and take 3 relics mana to be back in RVR , it will be the end of indestructible healed tank especially when healers not visible behind walls ^^ (or when I'm not here for disease :p)

F.

falcona wrote:

Gil wrote:These flames have caused many Albs to stop RvRing so the natural result: Mids take the 3 Strength relics in a 5 AM relic raid.

+1 Agree, this legal radar remove all interesting action, inc when we are door 2 always existed and very interesting and fun but after killing 1st guard... where is the challenge ?

We have much more time now whe have nothing to defend thx !

Don't think alb doesnt play anymore they keep on follow our great leader Romu in many events (2 sundays ! thanks to him ^^) sorry no more free easy RP for mid

Many wait Hibs wake up and take 3 relics mana to be back in RVR , it will be the end of indestructible healed tank especially when healers not visible behind walls ^^ (or when I'm not here for disease :p)

F.

Cant believe Gala has not yet reacted to this post

Ino wrote:
Cant believe Gala has not yet reacted to this post

Don't care gala react, just want hibs react -> DONE

RVR should be much more interesting next weeks, glad to be back after xp/drop pause ^^

Publishing burning keeps on the herald is not supporting RVR - it simply/just results in guilds not claiming anymore.

Keep claims currently only make sense if you have
1) relics
2) too much money / BPs you want to get rid of

Guilds in our alliance even stopped upgrading doors. The lack of population on the server is making it impossible to defend keeps 24/7.

Alpenbruder wrote:Publishing burning keeps on the herald is not supporting RVR - it simply/just results in guilds not claiming anymore.

Keep claims currently only make sense if you have
1) relics
2) too much money / BPs you want to get rid of

Guilds in our alliance even stopped upgrading doors. The lack of population on the server is making it impossible to defend keeps 24/7.

Mids do claim or even upgrade keeps? From what i've seen since the launch of uth2 midgard often used to raid highly rewarded keeps with a zerg but hardly claimd or even upgarded any of the taken keeps.
How do i know?
When we tried to find the midzerg or bait people to fight our pug FG( or more depending on mids numbers) we would knock on one of their freshly taken keeps to say "come fight us".
Too bad, didnt work out that way.
Wish there would be some data providing my claim.
By chance one or two of the keeps were claimed + upgraded by dg or some other active guild and we would knock on their doors to get someones attention.



/edit

Oh look what i've found^^ FROM 2012

And thats from uthgard 1. So nothing changed lol


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GreenP wrote:I admit i´m not a big fan of this keepraidingstuff but well and this is no QQing, just wondering

A closer look on the warmap shows it and besides 1 single keep claimed by a midguild there are nada claimed alb- or midkeeps for days. Hibs always run at least 3 keeps ... but why so? Or am i wrong here...

So what are their reasons not to claim keeps?
Do they wanna avoid getting rvr´d, because unclaimed keeps = not lucrative = less chance of getting into a combat?
Or is their motto or tactic: "we get maximum rps by raiding claimed keeps BUT we´re smartguys and don´t give any to our enemys HAARRRR"
...

/ponder

Any ideas?

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GreenP wrote:6 keeps owned by hibs, 3 claimed -> 50%
8 keeps owned by mids 0 claimed -> 0,000000% :wall: :wall: :wall:
7 keeps owned by albs 4 claimed -> ~ 57%


Stop giving stupid excuses mr epicwarrior.
MID got the highest population of all 3 realms at the moment and you wanna tell me people can´t claim stuff ?



/edit during writing my post your fabulous zerg of 1man-guilds got a claimed hibkeep OHNOES and ofc not claimed ...

The solution is remove the flames from an external site and allow them to only be visible in game by rangers, scouts, or hunters

Torgo wrote:The solution is remove the flames from an external site and allow them to only be visible in game by rangers, scouts, or hunters

Or bring back the need for "scouting".

When a player of your realm is within clip range of a keep underseige... flames could be turned on for that realm.

holsten-knight wrote:btw yesterday we got intel about inc at keeps, from stealthers or solos, before it was shown on the herald like everytime. So yesterday it would not have changed anything.

Hey something we agree on! I also believe people are underestimating what any solo class can do for the battlefield regarding Intel. There were too many times Holsten and crew ran me over, among others, and I would alert any grps/zergs willing to listen as to their whereabouts and what direction they were heading in. It benefited everyone. Holsten and company got fights, friendly grps/zergs got fights and because they were distracted I could walk around the zones hunting for my beloved solo fights..

RazorRamon wrote:

holsten-knight wrote:btw yesterday we got intel about inc at keeps, from stealthers or solos, before it was shown on the herald like everytime. So yesterday it would not have changed anything.

Hey something we agree on! I also believe people are underestimating what any solo class can do for the battlefield regarding Intel. There were too many times Holsten and crew ran me over, among others, and I would alert any grps/zergs willing to listen as to their whereabouts and what direction they were heading in. It benefited everyone. Holsten and company got fights, friendly grps/zergs got fights and because they were distracted I could walk around the zones hunting for my beloved solo fights..

And lets not forget the Holsten & Flump groups love the challenge and honour of 8v1 Really tests out the troll doublefrost twitch finger

kinthos wrote:And lets not forget the Holsten & Flump groups love the challenge and honour of 8v1 Really tests out the troll doublefrost twitch finger

I also enjoyed our 2vs4 in emain some weeks ago. /kiss

fremster wrote:
Or bring back the need for "scouting".

When a player of your realm is within clip range of a keep underseige... flames could be turned on for that realm.

That's another benefit that I didnt even think about. And you are right. Midgard scouts became very key during the period when the info on the herald was deactivated.
Now we see the flames on herald - nobody cares about infos by stealthers anymore.

holsten-knight wrote:

kinthos wrote:And lets not forget the Holsten & Flump groups love the challenge and honour of 8v1 Really tests out the troll doublefrost twitch finger

I also enjoyed our 2vs4 in emain some weeks ago. /kiss

I don't mind - it happens - just keep those sweet sweet emotes coming. This is one hawt luri ass afterall.

Alpenbruder wrote:

fremster wrote:
Or bring back the need for "scouting".

When a player of your realm is within clip range of a keep underseige... flames could be turned on for that realm.

That's another benefit that I didnt even think about. And you are right. Midgard scouts became very key during the period when the info on the herald was deactivated.
Now we see the flames on herald - nobody cares about infos by stealthers anymore.

Exactly, and I loved the interaction with scouts, infils and drastic. The current feature could be just deactivated and make people join BGs again to contribute intel (thanks ramiye, vanquish and others btw) or as you mentioned a more sophisticated solution by turning on flames on an ingame warmap when somebody (solo or group) is close enough to witness the inc. How cool would that be...
Sounds like a lot of effort though, so probably not gonna happen.

edit: while we're at it, can somebody explain to me why the whole forum has alb rranks? Couldn't be too hard to put up a selectable option and depict mid/hib-ranks instead..

joga wrote:

Alpenbruder wrote:
edit: while we're at it, can somebody explain to me why the whole forum has alb rranks? Couldn't be too hard to put up a selectable option and depict mid/hib-ranks instead..

This is to balance their lack options for proper RVR setups.

Totally agree to your point of interaction with stealth classes as well as to your statement of community joining BGs.
Communication and cooperation is key in this game. It will always be the community who is driving the success.
I think it's pretty fine in Midgard from my point of view - keep-INCs are reported across different alliances and even hardcore 8vs8 teams help out if needed.

Implementing a single and maybe even simple feature can wipe out a class fully (buff range and shamans is oneexample).



I am quite confident that staff is also looking into negative impacts when considering a 'QoL' feature.

Alpenbruder wrote:
Totally agree to your point of interaction with stealth classes as well as to your statement of community joining BGs.
Communication and cooperation is key in this game. It will always be the community who is driving the success.
I think it's pretty fine in Midgard from my point of view - keep-INCs are reported across different alliances and even hardcore 8vs8 teams help out if needed.

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Sry, But your "hardcore 8vs8 " in Midgard running through Frontier mostly together.
Yesterday evening, EU Prime Time.
At least three 8vs 8 Groups of Alb running in Alb and in Odins not adding one another. After several Incs of 2-3 Group-Zerg from Mids, consisted of "hardcore 8vs8", find finally 8er group of Mids alone!
And? What happens - they run away with the speed 6.

Half an hour later - the same situation - just buffed FG mids came from svasud, we kited a little to fight not in direct range of Main FZ Keep of Mids, turned to fight and sow just - FGM disappeared running away. So, what kind of RvR awaiting Mids finally?