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shatton1987
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Postby shatton1987 » Oct 31, 2017 14:43

Stoertebeker wrote:
Has something to do with the timeframe.

Forming groups starts at 7:30 pm ( after work ), ride out at 8:00 pm, 2-2,5h rvr, and then it`s time to log and go to bed.

*****If you can`t handle the albs or hibs cause you deny grouping up with the other 8v8 groups....your problem. You just need to run together for 30mins, crush the hib/alb zerg 1-2 times and 50% of their players are gone. Too much effort, *****or?


Ok, I can understand why u would think this was the case, because you are not active.
I can give u a run down of our AVAILABLE COMRADES once the alb Zerg or hib Zerg is en made.
- Blood pug : don’t like to Zerg unless completely necessary. I respect that.
- DG don’t play late + haven’t been active as much lately.
- German Zergers (sturmwoelfe/schatten/pixle/etc) don’t communicate with anyone.
- Legacy, great realm players, but can’t field an actual group
- Police Municipale: same as Germans.
- Minidozer group; cooperative but not always willing to engage in English comma (sorry, I don’t speak German)

I don’t deny grouping with anyone, I play well with others, I’m often made default bg leader, but if there’s no1 responding what more can I do?
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Postby [R]Bloodwyne » Oct 31, 2017 15:59

I just wanted to figure out where to transfer from Mid. My enthusiasm for this Server will prolly be gone again before I get to transfer anyway, but thanks for your estimates!
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Postby ayakoi » Oct 31, 2017 17:02

Just saying, u all are complaining about 8man ruining tjis or this ...

In my perspective, everyone could have a lot of fun if you just stop slacking on pve or else.

Zerg or realm actions are good for the server, but we don't have enough actions as Mid.
What i dont understand is that as alb or hib, with all the mids out, all of u could find fun, i mean, there's 3 rvr zones, at least 3-4 mid groups 8 man, legacy' zerg and german zerg.

What i see is Romu trying to pull out people retake keep with ****** set up while some pug group are roaming in SF or DL to kill some xpers and log out when they get rape by a random 8 man mid.

Same ****** for hib, except Les Braves nobody wants to make any efforts to build and join a realm action.

There is enough people to have some action everywhere, but people are still stick with the same 15yo mentality, waiting for someone else to do the job for them and whining about 8man or zerg, go back to pve, get frustrated and live their game experience on forum x)
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Postby virulent- » Oct 31, 2017 18:53

shatton1987 wrote:The following rant probably wont help answer the posters question, but I'm gonna write it anyway;

we (mid) also have the take every keep then log and leave them unclaimed crowd.
always great for pulling alb or hib zergs out..
they then fight them once, die, and all log, patting eachother on the back for another great PvE experience.
I mean wtf? doors don't even hit back ffs.

this results in the action being dominated by 32man alb or hib swarms, with no mids to fight them except for 8man.

I couldn't really say when this kind of ''''''action'''''' became prevalent, but if you find an 8man, its like finding rockin' horse sh^t.

that might not fall on too many sympathetic ears I know .. (8man Is for assholes, ****** uguys ur spoiling the fun for everyone else #siegebolt / frontier vindicator)

but when the BLUE zergers don't even want to fight the other teams, they just want 7 new keep takes in their title, and actively AVOID the enemy most of the time, the 8man's, who are roaming like [insert humorous metaphor attempt], are presented with the alb/hib response to a keep incursion.

Although sometimes hilarity ensues, and u land a nice ichor and can bomb the ****** out of those cosantoirs/myrmidons, this is rare. The rest of the time you are being chased by a force that outnumbers you 4 to 1..

'****** you go emain' i hear you yell.. meh.. go somewhere maybe..

I'm not sure what the remedy is, if people don't see a problem, but if the counter argument is that 'this is a REALM v REALM game, why are we seeing more RR3 Bane of Hibernia/Albion/Midgard with more keep takes than player kills..

'we just want a way to have some ra's for when we hit big boy rvr' april 2017.
well...
we are still waiting for these guys to come out.


lol what 8man? you mean the 8man that you were in and we killed 8v8 with an alb pug in odin's gate past amg about 2 weeks ago...and then you came back with 3fgm zerg to fight us 2 times after that? gtfoh with that hypocrisy, trashcan.
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Postby SlaterAC » Oct 31, 2017 22:30

"lol what 8man? you mean the 8man that you were in and we killed 8v8 with an alb pug in odin's gate past amg about 2 weeks ago...and then you came back with 3fgm zerg to fight us 2 times after that? gtfoh with that hypocrisy, trashcan."

That was exactly my point to the comments made in the ****** rant. Its only fun for them as long as they are rolling ****** down. But once they have an issue its everyone elses fault. You only want the action on your terms and because you are so starved for anything you run around destroy small mans, expers, solos, etc and in turn no one wants to play.

These are the same issues this game had 15 years ago. How everyone wanted to shun 8mans to Agramon.

I mean you even posted a video in which you ran down 2 sub 50s being a necro and a bot.. Cool ****** bro.

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Postby shatton1987 » Nov 01, 2017 00:00

ahh was this the video where we killed 32 other albs in the same breath? necro and minstrel coming from a zerg = fair game.
im guessing u might have been that minstrel?

@drastic u fought us once 3 weeks ago? cool story bro. u got carried by Dve regulars. if u just wanted to mention that u have won an 8man then gratz mate, happy for ya. Can u of all people really take a moral high ground lol

@slater dont even know who u r pal.

i was commenting on the lack of 8man and the actual idea of 8man being void.

you sound almost glad that we are as you say 'starved' of action..
Your another PvDoor Efficianado maybe ?
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Postby Stoertebeker » Nov 01, 2017 03:35

shatton1987 wrote:
Stoertebeker wrote:
Has something to do with the timeframe.

Forming groups starts at 7:30 pm ( after work ), ride out at 8:00 pm, 2-2,5h rvr, and then it`s time to log and go to bed.

*****If you can`t handle the albs or hibs cause you deny grouping up with the other 8v8 groups....your problem. You just need to run together for 30mins, crush the hib/alb zerg 1-2 times and 50% of their players are gone. Too much effort, *****or?


Ok, I can understand why u would think this was the case, because you are not active.
I can give u a run down of our AVAILABLE COMRADES once the alb Zerg or hib Zerg is en made.
- Blood pug : don’t like to Zerg unless completely necessary. I respect that.
- DG don’t play late + haven’t been active as much lately.
- German Zergers (sturmwoelfe/schatten/pixle/etc) don’t communicate with anyone.
- Legacy, great realm players, but can’t field an actual group
- Police Municipale: same as Germans.
- Minidozer group; cooperative but not always willing to engage in English comma (sorry, I don’t speak German)

I don’t deny grouping with anyone, I play well with others, I’m often made default bg leader, but if there’s no1 responding what more can I do?


I was active 2 evenings within the last 5 days, enough to see that nothing has changed.

I want the DAoC that we had in 2003, not this pseudo-nostalgica crap. There was no need to ask where the action is, it was reported by groups, solos, stealthers ...in an open global chat. The information flow here is just a pain in the ass. Serves only 1 playstyle - 8v8. I`m tired of this ****** where everyone outside the own group is a potencial enemy and a rp-leecher.

You want no zerging ( the *zergs* we see on Uthgard sometimes are a complete joke compared to the zergs in 2003/4 )?
Easy, just get rid of this rp`s for keeps, problem solved. It`s boring content anyways, raiding 3-5 keeps and no action until you hit a relic-keep. That is no RvR, that is plain PvE. I was running within the Krieger Asgards Ally with Sturmwölfe, Moschen etc...it is boring like mad. Really amazng RvR with 5-8k rp`s in 2,5 hours, and 85% of them are from keeptakes without seeing 1 enemy, lol.

Btw...Sturmwölfe are usually 2 groups, 3 as it best. You have some serious problems if you call that a zerg. Without that there would be nearly nada action within these 2,5 hours. ;)
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Postby wonshot » Nov 01, 2017 05:07

Stoertebeker wrote:I want the DAoC that we had in 2003, not this pseudo-nostalgica crap. There was no need to ask where the action is, it was reported by groups, solos, stealthers ...in an open global chat. The information flow here is just a pain in the ass. Serves only 1 playstyle - 8v8. I`m tired of this ****** where everyone outside the own group is a potencial enemy and a rp-leecher.


Vey much the same feeling I had on midgard. It was a cultural shock for me getting onto alb and while leveling seeing people look activly and daily for groups for the BGs (compared to on mid where people rather run in duos and smallman instead of fill a group to fight the enemy full groups).
Stealthers report inc groups in alliance and BG chat, and estimate time before they would hit a keep etc. (on midgard you would get ganked and then have 3 diffferent 8mans ask you how many and where, but never ask when you died in a keeprange or a keep was getting flagged)
I honestly think its just a midgard problem, since everyone and their 7best friends is the only thing that matters there, as a general rule of thumb.

I didnt get to play mid while Reallydirty was doing his thing, and now that i has returned (gone mia again?) I wonder how things look for the common midgard player who is not into 8man but still like rvr.
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Postby Celeny » Nov 01, 2017 07:17

ayakoi wrote:Just saying, u all are complaining about 8man ruining tjis or this ...

In my perspective, everyone could have a lot of fun if you just stop slacking on pve or else.

Zerg or realm actions are good for the server, but we don't have enough actions as Mid.
What i dont understand is that as alb or hib, with all the mids out, all of u could find fun, i mean, there's 3 rvr zones, at least 3-4 mid groups 8 man, legacy' zerg and german zerg.

What i see is Romu trying to pull out people retake keep with ****** set up while some pug group are roaming in SF or DL to kill some xpers and log out when they get rape by a random 8 man mid.

Same ****** for hib, except Les Braves nobody wants to make any efforts to build and join a realm action.

There is enough people to have some action everywhere, but people are still stick with the same 15yo mentality, waiting for someone else to do the job for them and whining about 8man or zerg, go back to pve, get frustrated and live their game experience on forum x)


Hrmm I'd say more than just Les Braves make an effort in Hibernia... (Les Braves does a great job don't get me wrong but discrediting a bunch of others at the same time isn't fair).

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Postby shatton1987 » Nov 01, 2017 10:12

Right..
I wasn’t conplaining about zergs...
My issue was with the keep takers... they take every keep in a zone, then log or change realm.
One evening, with albs taking all the mid keeps, the mid BG actually opted to leave mid, and take alb keeps to draw then their, RATHER than fight the albs.
That is my problem..
and if 3-4groups isn’t a Zerg on a low pop server then what do I call a group of 32 people roaming?

You can’t remove RPs for keeps.. how would 80% of the players here get rps?

I’m not sure what u meant about if it wasn’t for Sturmwoelfe running 24slot, there would be no action... that doesn’t make sense to me
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Postby Spivo » Nov 01, 2017 11:12

shatton1987 wrote:Right..
I wasn’t conplaining about zergs...
My issue was with the keep takers... they take every keep in a zone, then log or change realm.
One evening, with albs taking all the mid keeps, the mid BG actually opted to leave mid, and take alb keeps to draw then their, RATHER than fight the albs.
That is my problem..
and if 3-4groups isn’t a Zerg on a low pop server then what do I call a group of 32 people roaming?

You can’t remove RPs for keeps.. how would 80% of the players here get rps?

I’m not sure what u meant about if it wasn’t for Sturmwoelfe running 24slot, there would be no action... that doesn’t make sense to me


It is frustrating, but I think (not sure) you assume reducing keep rps would make them fight each other for rps?
Excuse me if I'm wrong :)
But I think people will just stop playing or roll BG alts if they cant get rps from keeps.

There are people on Live who made RR10+ with little but keep zerging, and people who made RR10 from almost nothing but solo PvP.
Players come in all sorts and shapes.

If anything I'd like more PvE rps, guard tasks and such. Smallman/solo action is so starved that all they do is roam xp spots.
Any incentive you can implement for people to go too RvR zones helps RvR, anything you do that removes incentive to go to RvR zones reduces RvR.
And by incentive I don't mean force people to relic keeps to get high lvl mats, but (example) make high lvl mats cheaper there.
Increase xp by 10% in all zones, 20% in your own frontier, 40% in enemy frontier.

Etc etc etc... don't punish people for not wanting to go to RvR zones, but reward those who do so.
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Postby shatton1987 » Nov 01, 2017 14:00

It seems i wasn’t clear.
I don’t want the removal of rps for keeps.
Rvr zone population would drop by 80% because let’s face it, how are these people going to get rps if they can’t do it by killing a lord.

I’m also sorry to break it to you, but u can’t have the Daoc of 2003.
People actually know how to play the game well nowadays and don’t have to rely on sheer numbers to get something done.

I’m just puzzled as to what kind of RvR action you people actually want.

Playing 2 evenings does not give you a good idea of anything also.
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Postby Ownnyn » Nov 01, 2017 15:32

People log after taking keeps because no action.

Other night albs went to mid, hit all 7 keeps, i think 1 shaman showed up to fight?

Last night, same albs went to hib land and fought for hours with mids and hibs not taking a keep until the action finally died late at night.

If no action, well take keeps to earn a couple rps before bed time. If people dont defend, it aint the keep taking forces fault.

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Postby isocleas2 » Nov 01, 2017 16:42

Ownnyn wrote:People log after taking keeps because no action.

Other night albs went to mid, hit all 7 keeps, i think 1 shaman showed up to fight?

Last night, same albs went to hib land and fought for hours with mids and hibs not taking a keep until the action finally died late at night.

If no action, well take keeps to earn a couple rps before bed time. If people dont defend, it aint the keep taking forces fault.

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I believe spam from guards killed showed albs had somewhere between 50-70 in their zerg while raiding mid keeps. Since we have no relics what incentive is there to defend against those numbers? Maybe if you wanted an actual fight you would have went hib where they have a reason to defend.

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Postby Ownnyn » Nov 01, 2017 17:29

isocleas2 wrote:
Ownnyn wrote:People log after taking keeps because no action.

Other night albs went to mid, hit all 7 keeps, i think 1 shaman showed up to fight?

Last night, same albs went to hib land and fought for hours with mids and hibs not taking a keep until the action finally died late at night.

If no action, well take keeps to earn a couple rps before bed time. If people dont defend, it aint the keep taking forces fault.

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I believe spam from guards killed showed albs had somewhere between 50-70 in their zerg while raiding mid keeps. Since we have no relics what incentive is there to defend against those numbers? Maybe if you wanted an actual fight you would have went hib where they have a reason to defend.
Maybe towards the end. Bled fell with 29 in bg.

Almost an entire group conned blue to me.

And defenders advatage means park yourself in the keep and use choke points.


You didnt need to face albs in open field. But atleast leave your border keep and try.

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