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Zerging! Stop the boring keep raids!

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Stoertebeker Eagle Knight Posts: 714 Joined: Jan 21, 2017 05:47	Reply with quote by Stoertebeker » Sep 08, 2017 15:59 wonshot wrote:Also when playing for the realm and not your own RP/hour gain with your 7best buddies, and thinking everyone else on the realm are randoms or adders/mezzbreakers. You avoid the elitist drama. Sad but true. If you see 1492 players out of 1500 on the server as potential enemies there is something wrong. .

Glenad Myrmidon Posts: 63 Joined: Jul 17, 2017 15:56	Reply with quote by Glenad » Sep 08, 2017 17:03 Couldn't add a thing to what Split said. Ez-mode rp's with no work..must be a Mid. -Glenda

isocleas2 Gryphon Knight Posts: 332 Joined: Apr 11, 2016 22:13	Reply with quote by isocleas2 » Sep 08, 2017 17:29 Glenad wrote:Couldn't add a thing to what Split said. Ez-mode rp's with no work..must be a Mid. -Glenda Those poor persecuted albs + hibs, if only they had a few relics to help balance it out....

Romps Myrmidon Posts: 83 Joined: Apr 18, 2017 15:16	Reply with quote by Romps » Sep 08, 2017 19:10 Most mids log early. Were out for aprx 2 hours after arsenal tilt log so theres 7 or 8 mids in all of frontiers; how many do yall have? Cuz its always too many to count. We slam our group into anything we see. If we find 1 alb or hib, we found them all. While ur throwin 16+ at a door or multi group ra dumping my boys with 3 relics a piece. What part of that is easy for us mids?

wonshot Gryphon Knight Posts: 295 Joined: Apr 01, 2017 15:43	Reply with quote by wonshot » Sep 09, 2017 04:01 Romps wrote:Most mids log early. Were out for aprx 2 hours after arsenal tilt log so theres 7 or 8 mids in all of frontiers; how many do yall have? Cuz its always too many to count. We slam our group into anything we see. If we find 1 alb or hib, we found them all. While ur throwin 16+ at a door or multi group ra dumping my boys with 3 relics a piece. What part of that is easy for us mids? if you could be a 4th realm and just be you and your 8man vs the world, would you do it? <<Bombling>> - Supp SM Lvl 50 - RR 7L0 Bombling Saga part I - VI. Magnetling Part I&II. Retired on Uthgard for now. Warhammer RoR private server, and CU beta testing.

Constantyne Warder Posts: 32 Joined: May 05, 2016 02:57	Reply with quote by Constantyne » Sep 09, 2017 17:42 Splitquick wrote: Pao wrote:Since I am still not 50, I did some zerging recently. It seems its just flipping keeps. Its so boring and not rewarding at all... 200rps wow... amazing. Also realize you get considerably less RPs for a keeptake for each level under 50 you are. Also realize there's many different types of gameplay, and keeps and relics are part of the frontiers and part of DAOC for a reason. That's one of the greatest things about DAOC. The only limitations to how you play the game are imposed by yourself. I originally started leading keeptakes for one main reason. It helps other people enjoy the game. There were no RPs for keeptakes for months and months. Taking keeps creates content. It shifts the map, it changes the gameplay world. It dynamically alters the battlefield in a huge number of ways. It sounds off your position to the enemy, it piques interest, it challenges them to come take it back from you. It opens up your options as a force, while limiting your enemies options. It provides opportunities. But most importantly to me, it includes everyone who wants to come out and enjoy RvR. Bring me the classes that aren't considered 'RvR' classes. For instance Reavers and necros are great at busting into a lord room when there's tons of enemies bunkered up. I can't even count the number of epic lord room and courtyard battles I've been in. Both attacking and defense. (Thanks hibs and mids ) Also, after doing it for awhile, you realize that when you head over and hit an enemy keep, you might take 2 or 3 before they are able to respond. But don't fret, they're most likely just gathering up a force large enough to wipe you in one inc This game also, for me, is not just about the RPs, it's great fights and playing with friends. But keeps can also be an avenue to relics. Getting them and keeping them. But keeptakes also allow for tons of variables in fights because of the guards/walls/doorways/stairwell, that can cause you to lose a fight where you severely outnumbered the enemy or should have won easily, and win fights that you had NO business winning at all. And that makes it great too. I agree with all of this. Last night was a lot of fun. Bet everyone got RPs, each side had their moments and that's what it is all about. Constantyne Runemaster Sleipnir Archonus - Retired Eldritch Mystical Knights AKA - Alexandros - Hero \| Prymetheus - VW

Eorkern Gryphon Knight Posts: 313 Joined: Jun 19, 2011 13:42	Reply with quote by Eorkern » Sep 19, 2017 19:05 Why the relics haven't moved in the last few weeks

Severian Gryphon Knight Posts: 254 Joined: Mar 01, 2017 19:40	Reply with quote by Severian » Sep 19, 2017 20:49 Mids don't have enough people to take relics NA time. Maybe Mids do EU time, but doesn't seem like EU Mids really care to take the relics. And if they did, NA Mids would be hard pressed to keep them for more than an hour if Albs or Hibs decided to get them. Happened last time, Arsenal and the other active Mids in NA time took a power relic by sheer Ram force. Within a few days or so, Albs decided to attack relic keep. The Hibs also started to attack relic keep and it was just literally impossible for us to stop them, as hard as we tried, camping our 2-3 groups in relic keep for over an hour. Severian, RR5 Skald Sacrament, RR4 Healer Darkcircle, RR4 RM

Stoertebeker Eagle Knight Posts: 714 Joined: Jan 21, 2017 05:47	Reply with quote by Stoertebeker » Sep 19, 2017 22:20 Severian wrote:Mids don't have enough people to take relics NA time. Maybe Mids do EU time, but doesn't seem like EU Mids really care to take the relics. And if they did, NA Mids would be hard pressed to keep them for more than an hour if Albs or Hibs decided to get them. We could get them at EU Primetime if we really want, but it simply makes no sense at all. They would be gone next morning since EU-Mids start gathering once the message Grallarhorn/Mjollnir under siege pops up. And that is just to late. .

wonshot Gryphon Knight Posts: 295 Joined: Apr 01, 2017 15:43	Reply with quote by wonshot » Sep 19, 2017 23:00 Stoertebeker wrote: Severian wrote:Mids don't have enough people to take relics NA time. Maybe Mids do EU time, but doesn't seem like EU Mids really care to take the relics. And if they did, NA Mids would be hard pressed to keep them for more than an hour if Albs or Hibs decided to get them. We could get them at EU Primetime if we really want, but it simply makes no sense at all. They would be gone next morning since EU-Mids start gathering once the message Grallarhorn/Mjollnir under siege pops up. And that is just to late. While I agree that might be the case, and debatably it might be too late if the backdoors or roads are blocked. its also amatter about what classes people bring to defend. if we send the usual berserkers and savages and other singletarget assist classes, its abit harder than using the realm's aoe classes like Cave sham, Thane and SM. Sure the melee funnel has proved to work when holding keeps. but stacking enough aoe on top of eachother top get enough criticalmass that noone can push through (look at hibs defending) and you can defend the relics if the mids online when the alarm is sound, actually bring the right classes. just my two cent as someone who have been toying around lately when different defensive tactics. Hell id sit in that relic keep for hours if id suspect an attack inc. (i do that already in keeps so why not relic lol) <<Bombling>> - Supp SM Lvl 50 - RR 7L0 Bombling Saga part I - VI. Magnetling Part I&II. Retired on Uthgard for now. Warhammer RoR private server, and CU beta testing.

Stoertebeker Eagle Knight Posts: 714 Joined: Jan 21, 2017 05:47	Reply with quote by Stoertebeker » Sep 20, 2017 02:15 wonshot wrote: Stoertebeker wrote: Severian wrote:Mids don't have enough people to take relics NA time. Maybe Mids do EU time, but doesn't seem like EU Mids really care to take the relics. And if they did, NA Mids would be hard pressed to keep them for more than an hour if Albs or Hibs decided to get them. We could get them at EU Primetime if we really want, but it simply makes no sense at all. They would be gone next morning since EU-Mids start gathering once the message Grallarhorn/Mjollnir under siege pops up. And that is just to late. While I agree that might be the case, and debatably it might be too late if the backdoors or roads are blocked. its also amatter about what classes people bring to defend. if we send the usual berserkers and savages and other singletarget assist classes, its abit harder than using the realm's aoe classes like Cave sham, Thane and SM. Sure the melee funnel has proved to work when holding keeps. but stacking enough aoe on top of eachother top get enough criticalmass that noone can push through (look at hibs defending) and you can defend the relics if the mids online when the alarm is sound, actually bring the right classes. just my two cent as someone who have been toying around lately when different defensive tactics. Hell id sit in that relic keep for hours if id suspect an attack inc. (i do that already in keeps so why not relic lol) Last time we got a relic home it was just retaken by albs the other morning. As i logged in 9am (EU) all but 1 keeps were taken, and Drastic and ~2fg were working on the relic doors. Defenders..maybe 4-5 lvl 50, a handful lvl 40-45, and overall maybe 20 lvl 50 online. Some in Malmo, some in Vanern....some lvl 48/49 that don`t wanna wipe and loose xp (what i can understand). The relic was lost after 4 keeps were gonna and noone was going to retake them, and sure, Berserkers + Savages won`t help that much in a defense. But thats Midgard Style on Uthgard, running around in 8v8 setups, every other mid-group is a potencial enemy and never ever group classes with aoe abilities. Meanwhile i don`t care about relics, we crush the hibs and albs anyway, if we loose with 2 fg, we come back with 4, or we gather the 8v8 meleegoups and die trying. .

wonshot Gryphon Knight Posts: 295 Joined: Apr 01, 2017 15:43	Reply with quote by wonshot » Sep 20, 2017 02:51 Stoertebeker wrote:Meanwhile i don`t care about relics, we crush the hibs and albs anyway, if we loose with 2 fg, we come back with 4, or we gather the 8v8 meleegoups and die trying. While I dont personally miss having relics for the damage boost, I do mis the events holding a relic give you. Everyone and their dogs come together to defend with you see the relic keep being hit. Gives me the unity feeling of being on a realm working together towards something, how I like my mmo experience. if i just wanted to play with the same little bunch of people, id play a teambased game or arena type <<Bombling>> - Supp SM Lvl 50 - RR 7L0 Bombling Saga part I - VI. Magnetling Part I&II. Retired on Uthgard for now. Warhammer RoR private server, and CU beta testing.

terme Warder Posts: 21 Joined: Mar 14, 2017 17:04	Reply with quote by terme » Sep 20, 2017 04:04 yea the mids weren't content with the relic we gave to them (horn) but they had to come steal ours too (staff) so they could lose them both back to the hibs. truth is, zerging can be fun, and so can 8v8. what really bothers me about this server on alb is how divided the community is. most casual players are so frustrated with the attitude of the 8man players (not that there are really that many of them) that they won't ever try running in an 8man. I mean how many 8mans are there really on alb at NA time? 1? trained again? it would be nice if more of the casual players were more open minded to running an 8man, and it would also be nice if more of the 8mans were more open minded about zerging. 8v8 really is a fun playstyle, but it can easily be ruined if the people in your 8man are douches, and there is a lot of that on uthgard. though a lot of the annoying elitist players have left already. a lot of the players that knock the 8mans have probably never played an 8v8 playstyle with a set group before.

Tulkar Myrmidon Posts: 73 Joined: Aug 19, 2016 20:27	Reply with quote by Tulkar » Sep 20, 2017 11:34 Im not bothering to read all this right now, dont have the time. tho i wanna see those zerging players in a 8vs8 grp and im gonna dare making the assumtion that there lays the solution in the question why do you guys zerg and focus on keep raids only i mean lets take ramyie for instance, cant find a better example out of the blue. Never seen that guy solo and plays a more or less possible to play solo class xD No tears please, it's a waste of good suffering.

YEET Warder Posts: 60 Joined: Feb 12, 2017 13:59	Reply with quote by YEET » Sep 20, 2017 12:12 Tulkar wrote:tho i wanna see those zerging players in a 8vs8 grp... heh. hehe.