joshisanonymous wrote:Not sure if something is broken or not, but I can say from my own experience on Uth 2.0 that I rarely manage to unstealth a stealther despite mostly soloing without speed and almost exclusively fighting stealthers. This is the case even when I know they're coming and there's very little space to hide, like when I'm in the room above a milegate and the door opens with no one there. I don't think I've ever spotted the incoming stealther before they attack me.

you're a BD, you don't matter in this discussion

Stealth is really broken here. You get popped by Caster-Pets before you can execute backstab for example, you can't stealth past yellow mobs and most of the time you can't even PA a green mob if its agro to you (it attacks before you reach him because it just sees you and if its agro it attacks).

Stealth-detection of non-Stealthers is broken too, before i reached 50 comp. Stealth it was way worse but even now with 50 Stealth I get popped a lot of times by Speed6-Groups running by.

l00ri wrote:Stealth is really broken here. You get popped by Caster-Pets before you can execute backstab for example, you can't stealth past yellow mobs and most of the time you can't even PA a green mob if its agro to you (it attacks before you reach him because it just sees you and if its agro it attacks).

Stealth-detection of non-Stealthers is broken too, before i reached 50 comp. Stealth it was way worse but even now with 50 Stealth I get popped a lot of times by Speed6-Groups running by.

So don´t let them run through y

You do not have composite 50 stealth and you complain. It does a check of character level vs stealth level so it is a huge deal.

Some people (those that do not have 50 stealth) are way easier to find then others (those who have 50 stealth).

And running over someone, speed 6 or not, have always showed them visible for a split second. So how about you stop standing in the middle of the road for a change?

I remember not seeing stealthers as a tank with speed 5 unless we kindof share exactly the same coordinates,which is really brief when you have speed but without speed I could see them most of the time in small area very close around me, as it is now.

I also think there's a problem with stealth, I used to play on a pvp server with a lot of people around me roaming and felt kinda safe. Atm you can't be safe as a stealther, anyone running near you will unstealth you really easy.

So yes we (stealthers) shouldn't stay on the road, but you should not feel hunted more than you're hunting when you put 50 points in stealth...

Grenouille wrote:I also think there's a problem with stealth, I used to play on a pvp server with a lot of people around me roaming and felt kinda safe. Atm you can't be safe as a stealther, anyone running near you will unstealth you really easy.

So yes we (stealthers) shouldn't stay on the road, but you should not feel hunted more than you're hunting when you put 50 points in stealth...

ppl should be "standing on" you to see you if you have combined 50 stealth.
Not sure how it work with lower stealth as some spec pre rr5 but should still be really hard to detect you if speeding past you.
i thought visuals had a hard time to detect even a stealther with 25 stealth that had a little distance.

regarding "standing" on you, I disagree. Stealth is a concealment tool, not an invisibility cloak. If you are sneaking around on main roads and a group runs through you "expect" to be uncovered.

Skandar wrote:regarding "standing" on you, I disagree. Stealth is a concealment tool, not an invisibility cloak. If you are sneaking around on main roads and a group runs through you "expect" to be uncovered.

I guess you played a lot of stealth classes with 50 stealth then.

I can understand Minstrels are easier to see with there normaly lower stealth spec but even them should be hard/not possible to see if you come bye on speed 6 (atleast if you are not on top of them running stright trough.

Assasin vs assasin see eachother very close on. And you gotta have good reflexes to get in PA etc or even hit them.
And that is two chars moveing in slow motion style and you find it ok that you spot them as a fg on speed 6.
As Henry (Liverpool owener) told Arsenal owner; "What are they smoking over there"

Stasis wrote:
I guess you played a lot of stealth classes with 50 stealth then.

I can understand Minstrels are easier to see with there normaly lower stealth spec but even them should be hard/not possible to see if you come bye on speed 6 (atleast if you are not on top of them running stright trough.

Assasin vs assasin see eachother very close on. And you gotta have good reflexes to get in PA etc or even hit them.
And that is two chars moveing in slow motion style and you find it ok that you spot them as a fg on speed 6.
As Henry (Liverpool owener) told Arsenal owner; "What are they smoking over there"

Stasis... just give it up. You´re playing bad like 95% of all current rvring stealthers. I´ve played a NS for more than 6 years on Uth v1. I´ve seen/fought a few stealthers in 1vs1, small men, fg and zerg fights on Uth v2.

Don´t camp & stay on the roads at milegates etc. If someone runs through y... doesn´t matter with Speed 10 or 0 speed, he stands for a short time nearly or totaly in your char, means 0-5 unit range. So he can see you. If the group spreads out instantly, they can easily catch you with tabbing & auto attacks. Your stealth movement speed isn´t great. (I don´t think many stealthers have MoS atm).

Rent wrote:Stasis... just give it up. You´re playing bad like 95% of all current rvring stealthers. I´ve played a NS for more than 6 years on Uth v1. I´ve seen/fought a few stealthers in 1vs1, small men, fg and zerg fights on Uth v2.

Don´t camp & stay on the roads at milegates etc. If someone runs through y... doesn´t matter with Speed 10 or 0 speed, he stands for a short time nearly or totaly in your char, means 0-5 unit range. So he can see you. If the group spreads out instantly, they can easily catch you with tabbing & auto attacks. Your stealth movement speed isn´t great. (I don´t think many stealthers have MoS atm).

I think you didn't play stealthers in Uth 1 because I never was seen and went through fgs INTENDEDLY without any fear to be seen

Ilerget wrote:

Rent wrote:Stasis... just give it up. You´re playing bad like 95% of all current rvring stealthers. I´ve played a NS for more than 6 years on Uth v1. I´ve seen/fought a few stealthers in 1vs1, small men, fg and zerg fights on Uth v2.

Don´t camp & stay on the roads at milegates etc. If someone runs through y... doesn´t matter with Speed 10 or 0 speed, he stands for a short time nearly or totaly in your char, means 0-5 unit range. So he can see you. If the group spreads out instantly, they can easily catch you with tabbing & auto attacks. Your stealth movement speed isn´t great. (I don´t think many stealthers have MoS atm).

I think you didn't play stealthers in Uth 1 because I never was seen and went through fgs INTENDEDLY without any fear to be seen

You´ve joined very late I´ve played nearly from the beginning of Uth v1 and stopped playing like 3-4 years before closing the server.

Rentina 8lx Nightshade. It doesn´t matter what you think. I should know if i played a stealther or not.

Rent wrote:You´ve joined very late I´ve played nearly from the beginning of Uth v1 and stopped playing like 3-4 years before closing the server.

Rentina 8lx Nightshade. It doesn´t matter what you think. I should know if i played a stealther or not.

i've joined in 2009

Well i havent played uth1 and i havent got to 50 here jet, but i played my fair share on LIVE and its not as easy it sounds on forum here to be spotted

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