Do Albs even RvR?

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Postby Buukie » Mar 19, 2017 22:34

Pwncakes wrote:Honestly, RvR is not looking good for Alb atm.


Werent people saying the same thing about Hib at one point? They seem to be doing alright. Also I thought Hib was the caster realm. I mean even their rogue class is a caster.

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Postby Isavyr » Mar 20, 2017 04:08

Buukie wrote:
Pwncakes wrote:Honestly, RvR is not looking good for Alb atm.


Werent people saying the same thing about Hib at one point? They seem to be doing alright. Also I thought Hib was the caster realm. I mean even their rogue class is a caster.


A lot of people were saying that, yes. And then Albion groups rerolled Hibernia. And now Albion is saying it.

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Postby Madix » Mar 20, 2017 04:55

I don't think Albion is suffering in total RPs, it's just that taking keeps isn't a priority.

-As for Hib being the caster realm. I can see the perception that Mids are the melee realm, Alb is the defense realm, and Hib is the caster realm but the truth is that a proper caster group in Alb is hard to beat. Alb has access to things like SoS and BoF that are really good for caster groups.

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Postby Sendnudes » Mar 20, 2017 07:36

Albs sat outside of CS with 3+ fgs all night. Would not leave unless they were 2+ & within range of running back to CS. There's part of your problem. Puss mode is fully engaged with most of them
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Postby Koleriker » Mar 20, 2017 07:53

Plenty of albs lvl 45+ usually sit in front if CS and wait for mids/hibs to lure them into the forest to get ganked. Dunno why these albs keep coming but its a strange tactic to defend the realm.
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Postby Civer » Mar 20, 2017 11:08

Albs have 1,4K lvl 50 player. (Same number as Hib) The question is, how much Necromancer are in that number?

Potencial second reason. Mostly non RvR Guilds or Allys (PvM, or from time to time player) raid or building zergs, others want RPs and Group RvR. :) If i see it right on Herald-Stalking, the LvL average of RvR focussed player is higher than the rest.
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Postby Skarz » Mar 20, 2017 12:27

Mids look to DF as a source of generating money, albs and hibs have access to hardcore pve class's + camps to never even consider DF as a way of making money.

Mids look to DF as a source of exp lvl 40+, once again albs and hibs have access to hardcore pve class's + camps to never want to exp in DF.

THE ONLY REASON hibs and albs have ever taken DF to date is to have access to DF merchants for template items.

so the incentive for mids to take DF is clear, the incentive for albs and hibs to take DF outside of wanting their template items is to slow down mids progress. and who wants that? more the better!!!!

the only keeps albs will ever care about are their own and thats only when we have relics.

p.s remember how old the game is, novelty of taking keeps just because is well and truly gone.

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Postby thomasmgp » Mar 20, 2017 17:41

Civer wrote:Potencial second reason. Mostly non RvR Guilds or Allys .



I dont understand. What the hell else would you be doing. There is no SI or ToA which is where most of the raid level stuff is located. If u dont RvR then go play any of the dozen games out there with far better PvE.

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Postby Stridah » Mar 20, 2017 17:50

Sendnudes wrote:Albs sat outside of CS with 3+ fgs all night. Would not leave unless they were 2+ & within range of running back to CS. There's part of your problem. Puss mode is fully engaged with most of them


Didn't your role the most OP realm of the patch with the largest population and most serious guilds? Go check what is in your pants dawg.

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Postby Madix » Mar 20, 2017 18:05

Sendnudes wrote:Albs sat outside of CS with 3+ fgs all night. Would not leave unless they were 2+ & within range of running back to CS. There's part of your problem. Puss mode is fully engaged with most of them


To be fair, quite a few of those albs were not level 50 and quite a few of the others were low RR (as opposed to seeing RR5+ Hibs and Mids out there). Also, there was 2+ groups of Hibs and Mids running around at times as well. -I watched the Albs go out to meet 8v8 several times and they lost every time. I was there all night, I tried not to add in most fights but there was a crazy amount of Hibs and Mids there that were not allowing fair 8v8 fights. Every time I saw 8 mans of Albs come out far enough they ended up getting hit from the side by another group of Hibs or Mids. It was obviously zerg fest going on at that point, any ethics about adding fights went out the window.

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Postby Civer » Mar 20, 2017 18:09

thomasmgp wrote:
Civer wrote:Potencial second reason. Mostly non RvR Guilds or Allys .



I dont understand. What the hell else would you be doing. There is no SI or ToA which is where most of the raid level stuff is located. If u dont RvR then go play any of the dozen games out there with far better PvE.



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Postby mins2340 » Mar 20, 2017 19:32

I think a lot of albs are still leveling / gearing. I've had a level 50 character for about a month now, but my limited play time and limited access to DF has made getting templated difficult.

We haven't had DF for over a week last I checked, and most of the time when we do get DF, it is taken back almost instantly. Thats fine, this game is about pvp and controlling keeps, but if you want more competition in RvR, and you know a big chunk of your competition is still trying to get gear, isn't it a bit counter-intuitive to block them from doing so while at the same time complaining how you have nothing to do?

It the same as the 8v8ers who complain about people adding because they want a "fair fight", while at the same time blocking their competition from getting templated and holding the majority of relics. I really don't see how having a ton of advantages plays into "fair fight" while assistance from realm mates doesn't.

I'm an alb. I plan to RvR. I just don't mind waiting until I can gear my character to do it. The server isn't going anywhere and I've got plenty of time. If it takes another month for me to finish getting DF gear because we only have access to it for a couple hours at a time, so be it.

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Postby Laberintica » Mar 20, 2017 19:48

50 % of albs are necro's
30 % are RvR'ing
20% we have Red lag issues ...

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Postby The_1ndiegamer » Mar 20, 2017 22:33

Laberintica wrote:50 % of albs are necro's
30 % are RvR'ing
20% we have Red lag issues ...


Don't spread lies, while the necro population is big, it's nowhere close to 50% necros. More likely 25-30% , also you need to factor in cabas which constitute 10-15% of the playerbase.

And don't give me the excuse "cabas are useful in RvR" not many of those farming cabas even enter RvR in the first place.

Albion has an issue of bashing eachother, calling other classes useless, having an incredibly negative attitude and whatnot. On top of that alb has the mentality that if you don't play an "8man" class you're considered useless.

One more major issue, whenever someone runs an RvR bg you have a alot of players nagging and complaining either in group or bg/chat, the other half leaves on the first wipeout due to impatience.

You want to blame it on the necros, but look at albions leadership and how willing we're to stick to the long haul for RvR. Leadership is fine, trust in leadership isn't leading to albion bleeding numbers in BG's fast, that or having an 8man mentality saying zergs are useless and for noobs.

But keep blaming it on the necros, since they give you such an easy excuse why alb isn't faring well atm.

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Postby Isavyr » Mar 21, 2017 03:47

The_1ndiegamer wrote:
Albion has an issue of bashing eachother, calling other classes useless, having an incredibly negative attitude and whatnot. On top of that alb has the mentality that if you don't play an "8man" class you're considered useless.


That's a product of bad realm design. It really isn't the player's fault that most Albion classes aren't competitive, or don't have synergy with one another, or that so many auto-train, or that they have different PvE from RvR specs. The list goes on.

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