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Shinyuka Myrmidon Posts: 152 Joined: Oct 19, 2013 13:15	Reply with quote by Shinyuka » Jun 14, 2016 14:23 all those things you say you want to test are completly(!) unknown AND only testable in 8vs8 fights - i can see no sinister intentions! but you are right, i am scared. i mean who wouldnt? you probably killed thousands of players so far, and have no clue wether root applies snare imunity or not! this leads to the following conclusions: 1) you have never been rooted and attacked by a melee afterwards (too stronk), and... 2) you never rooted and attacked someone with a snare style afterwards (only 1 shots, no need to snare) same can be said about the mezz / speed thingy.. these things must be tested, and i find it really brave you are on that mission.. unfortunatly, we dont have a zap brannigan in hibernia yet, who sends wave after wave of his own man at you, until your tests are completed.. maybe, with time, people we understand the need of those tests, and that you only do them for the greater good. if only the devs would see it that way, maybe they can add an extra beta phase for testing setups, ra's and all the rvr related stuff.. maybe also implement some kind of i50 NPCs so the players can even more focus on these things, without the need of leveling and gearing up. but, that is only a mad mans dream!

barto22 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1489 Joined: Feb 06, 2011 23:07	Reply with quote by barto22 » Jun 14, 2016 14:36 They have said multiple times they will be doing i50 and maybe even i30 when they feel the server is ready for it. They have other things on the agenda at the moment like the broken xp. If you don't have anybody to kill you could always roll an alt and test some more low level stuff like everybody else. The race to templated 50 was a pointless one IMO. Didn't accomplish anything other than a handful of issues in the tracker. But that doesn't mean bugs weren't abused along the way. Long and the short of it is that once the devs hurry up and fix the stuff they deem important the sooner we can all test rvr, RA's, immunities etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with facts. You mustn't assume that your personal situation is a reflection of every other person that has logged in to Uthgard.

Narva Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Apr 05, 2016 22:48	Reply with quote by Narva » Jun 14, 2016 20:22 chiwie wrote:well, there was a little bit action a few days ago, there were a hib fg all 50 and tamplated, camped malegates with 3 or 4 caster, 1 bard 2 druids 2 heros wanted us to come play we went out open field, they went splad, now some of them rerolled mid lol we were not full temped u are just crazy man, one druid was 49 other was random and not temp and most of casters were missing items too, anyway you guyz exploiting add dmg bug, value is higher than normal when u use skald + sham add dmg, zerks hit for 350-400 ( before they took relic ) chanter with heat debuff dd for 240. you guyz are full tank mid grp 3 healers spaming instant fighting 2-3L hib grp without groupe purge / deter 5 / purge and everything they need ^^ we tried few fights just for trying rvr tho but we ll come back later with all temps and ****** dont worry and after gms " maybe " start fixing rvr bug and broken things.

Llaw Gryphon Knight Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 23, 2016 10:19	Reply with quote by Llaw » Jun 14, 2016 21:48 Narva wrote: chiwie wrote:well, there was a little bit action a few days ago, there were a hib fg all 50 and tamplated, camped malegates with 3 or 4 caster, 1 bard 2 druids 2 heros wanted us to come play we went out open field, they went splad, now some of them rerolled mid lol we were not full temped u are just crazy man, one druid was 49 other was random and not temp and most of casters were missing items too, anyway you guyz exploiting add dmg bug, value is higher than normal when u use skald + sham add dmg, zerks hit for 350-400 ( before they took relic ) chanter with heat debuff dd for 240. you guyz are full tank mid grp 3 healers spaming instant fighting 2-3L hib grp without groupe purge / deter 5 / purge and everything they need ^^ we tried few fights just for trying rvr tho but we ll come back later with all temps and ****** dont worry and after gms " maybe " start fixing rvr bug and broken things. Siege - Warrior Envoy - Bard Aegis - Blademaster Ethical - Mentalist

Narva Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Apr 05, 2016 22:48	Reply with quote by Narva » Jun 14, 2016 21:52 not really salty tbh, played this game too much to be salty, ill just wait for release till they fix all bugs =)

Llaw Gryphon Knight Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 23, 2016 10:19	Reply with quote by Llaw » Jun 14, 2016 21:56 Narva wrote:not really salty tbh, played this game too much to be salty, ill just wait for release till they fix all bugs =) Siege - Warrior Envoy - Bard Aegis - Blademaster Ethical - Mentalist

Aoln Warder Posts: 16 Joined: Jul 16, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Aoln » Jun 14, 2016 22:46 Saga wrote:I fear the same problem will happen on the release, the real question is why they dont want to fight, maybe create a poll. As one of the earliest lvl50 albs who's been sittting around for the best part of a month waiting for people to rvr, i'll tell you my experience: It's only in the last week or so there's been a full group worth of 50's on albion, whereas on mid at the same time there's 20+. Many of these 50s are either PvE/craftinging so they can have a template (but can't get to DF so no jewellery), playing a PvE class so they can equip their RvR main, or like me they got bored of being unable to find a single sorc, let alone 2 clerics and a theurg to form a worthwhile group. Why is there so few 50 albs/hibs is the real question? My experience on rolling an alt is that xp is much slower than it was when i got to 50, and forming the core of a group in alb is also a huge pain in the arse. Also then at 40+ there's so few decent xp spots that people just get bored and quit, even the goblins have been nerfed into the ground so the hoardes of cabalists have quit.

Llaw Gryphon Knight Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 23, 2016 10:19	Reply with quote by Llaw » Jun 14, 2016 22:54 Aoln wrote:Why is there so few 50 albs/hibs is the real question? My experience on rolling an alt is that xp is much slower than it was when i got to 50, and forming the core of a group in alb is also a huge pain in the arse. Also then at 40+ there's so few decent xp spots that people just get bored and quit, even the goblins have been nerfed into the ground so the hoardes of cabalists have quit. Hib probably has more 50s than Midgard. They just don't want to RvR. They all need to gather under the banner of Turn4Edwin and get out into the frontier and start using their characters. Siege - Warrior Envoy - Bard Aegis - Blademaster Ethical - Mentalist

lumpenhund Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 26, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by lumpenhund » Jun 15, 2016 03:28 we hardly have any tanks, most tanks just stop playing after reaching 50 or start a twink right away or roll mid. mids have it alot easier doing stuff like raiding or farming money in df. mana is a big issue as well. can kill 2 ppl in 8v8 fights then im mana starved as a caster. not to mention debuff lasting for 2 nukes before falling off a target with 50% resist. 2 legendary SCers rerolled to mid as well, so we only got 1 left atm who hardly does any SCing. but hey, dont let that bother you. just continue roaming and rolling every hib and alb pug you find in hib fz with your fully templated 8man and keep on taking keep after keep. enjoy your empty frontiers. youve earned them. go take remaining relics and you ll see noone out there at all anymore. 1 realm coop beta inc.

lumpenhund Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 26, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by lumpenhund » Jun 15, 2016 03:31 As long as Exp isnt fixxed for being able to PL ppl as it was on live hib and alb wont get back on their feet. Respecs would help a ton as well since we need to get more lightspecced casters for pvp. Thats a nonissue for midgard.

Raunz Warder Posts: 53 Joined: Apr 16, 2016 20:10	Reply with quote by Raunz » Jun 15, 2016 09:01 Well i have a fully template chanter and i stopped playing when i realized there is no point to rvr/feed rps to nubs. Heat debuff is broken right now, damage type on it is heat instead of energy so it only last 2-3sec vs red heat resist so you have to debuff+nuke+debuff again etc and you just run oom instantly, even with mcl2+RP it was not enough mana to kill more then 1-2 target. Another problem is that our menta was supposed to be spec nuker to deal with lack of damage from baseline nuke(you nuke for like 270 damage max after debuff, seems wrong tbh quite sure i should be nuking for 400-500 with baseline nuke and spec nuker 600-700) but dragon is disabled so we couldnt even get stones to respec the menta. Another thing is we cant even reroll tanks cos powerleveling does not work... so your just stuck having bunch of broken chanters that cant kill anything. We ended up doing old school pbaoe box just to have enough mana to kill people and it did work couple of fights cos mid tanks nubs and just ran into box and insta died but ofc after couple of times it stopped working, in an open field it takes 2 casters to blow whole mana par just to kill 1 mid tank and thats when he is not even getting healed..... So i made solo king skald instead of getting frustrated losing fights to a group that should lose in 10 sec max if things would work.

Saga Warder Posts: 49 Joined: May 07, 2016 10:45	Reply with quote by Saga » Jun 15, 2016 10:20 Raunz wrote:Well i have a fully template chanter and i stopped playing when i realized there is no point to rvr/feed rps to nubs. Heat debuff is broken right now, damage type on it is heat instead of energy so it only last 2-3sec vs red heat resist so you have to debuff+nuke+debuff again etc and you just run oom instantly, even with mcl2+RP it was not enough mana to kill more then 1-2 target. Another problem is that our menta was supposed to be spec nuker to deal with lack of damage from baseline nuke(you nuke for like 270 damage max after debuff, seems wrong tbh quite sure i should be nuking for 400-500 with baseline nuke and spec nuker 600-700) but dragon is disabled so we couldnt even get stones to respec the menta. Another thing is we cant even reroll tanks cos powerleveling does not work... so your just stuck having bunch of broken chanters that cant kill anything. We ended up doing old school pbaoe box just to have enough mana to kill people and it did work couple of fights cos mid tanks nubs and just ran into box and insta died but ofc after couple of times it stopped working, in an open field it takes 2 casters to blow whole mana par just to kill 1 mid tank and thats when he is not even getting healed..... So i made solo king skald instead of getting frustrated losing fights to a group that should lose in 10 sec max if things would work. Totally agree, I stopped to play my chanter few weeks ago, no one wanna do SH, they would prefer fins camp all night long....... I made this char for pve but its broken like explained above, so I tried to roll on a NS but it was so boring ( its empy around MM ) and it took me like 2 months at this rate to reach 50...to get wiped.... So what now ? Pve broken ? Pvp broken ? Some of us will not play anymore ....So Just sit and wait, cuz I wont play mid its sh... ?

barto22 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1489 Joined: Feb 06, 2011 23:07	Reply with quote by barto22 » Jun 15, 2016 10:40 I'm also not active on the server at the moment. I'm only hanging around in the forums to wait for more development and to get the latest scoop. At the moment for me it's unplayable. So much time already wasted. I'll just wait til i50 and/or the majority of the bugs have been worked out. Low level pve seems to work (other than the xp formula) so let's move on a bit IMO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with facts. You mustn't assume that your personal situation is a reflection of every other person that has logged in to Uthgard.

Llaw Gryphon Knight Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 23, 2016 10:19	Reply with quote by Llaw » Jun 15, 2016 12:29 Raunz wrote:Well i have a fully template chanter and i stopped playing when i realized there is no point to rvr/feed rps to nubs. Heat debuff is broken right now, damage type on it is heat instead of energy so it only last 2-3sec vs red heat resist so you have to debuff+nuke+debuff again etc and you just run oom instantly, even with mcl2+RP it was not enough mana to kill more then 1-2 target. Another problem is that our menta was supposed to be spec nuker to deal with lack of damage from baseline nuke(you nuke for like 270 damage max after debuff, seems wrong tbh quite sure i should be nuking for 400-500 with baseline nuke and spec nuker 600-700) but dragon is disabled so we couldnt even get stones to respec the menta. Another thing is we cant even reroll tanks cos powerleveling does not work... so your just stuck having bunch of broken chanters that cant kill anything. We ended up doing old school pbaoe box just to have enough mana to kill people and it did work couple of fights cos mid tanks nubs and just ran into box and insta died but ofc after couple of times it stopped working, in an open field it takes 2 casters to blow whole mana par just to kill 1 mid tank and thats when he is not even getting healed..... So i made solo king skald instead of getting frustrated losing fights to a group that should lose in 10 sec max if things would work. Siege - Warrior Envoy - Bard Aegis - Blademaster Ethical - Mentalist

Trishin Game Master Posts: 5048 Joined: Apr 07, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Trishin » Jun 15, 2016 13:21 Raunz wrote:Well i have a fully template chanter and i stopped playing when i realized there is no point to rvr/feed rps to nubs. Heat debuff is broken right now, damage type on it is heat instead of energy so it only last 2-3sec vs red heat resist so you have to debuff+nuke+debuff again etc and you just run oom instantly, even with mcl2+RP it was not enough mana to kill more then 1-2 target. Another problem is that our menta was supposed to be spec nuker to deal with lack of damage from baseline nuke(you nuke for like 270 damage max after debuff, seems wrong tbh quite sure i should be nuking for 400-500 with baseline nuke and spec nuker 600-700) but dragon is disabled so we couldnt even get stones to respec the menta. Another thing is we cant even reroll tanks cos powerleveling does not work... so your just stuck having bunch of broken chanters that cant kill anything. We ended up doing old school pbaoe box just to have enough mana to kill people and it did work couple of fights cos mid tanks nubs and just ran into box and insta died but ofc after couple of times it stopped working, in an open field it takes 2 casters to blow whole mana par just to kill 1 mid tank and thats when he is not even getting healed..... So i made solo king skald instead of getting frustrated losing fights to a group that should lose in 10 sec max if things would work. https://uthgard.org/tracker/reportBug Please report what is not working (after checking an issue does not already exist). Simply fleeing from the problems won't get them solved. We can't fix these problems without someone reporting them and providing evidence of the correct behavior. Got any questions? Submit them to me and I will try to get them answered in our grab bag ! Rajnish wrote:Why didn't someone warn me that being GM means lots of boring research, logging, testing and organizing data.... I thought it was all about looking cool.... Uthgard Rules \|\| How to connect \|\| FAQ