actually SB is really good because the offhand swings with every hit.... basicly grants you about 60-100 more dmg each hit, while ns and inf skill less in DW and therefore have little chance to hit with offhand.

playing SB on that other server and yeah 9sec stun from inf and AP from NS is really hard but its possible to win even against those enemys.

my SB is rr5 and i kill rr10 ns

ah btw i use swordspec and draw out as anytimer.... lowest endu anytime styl for all assassin classes, youll be able to hit 10 times till endu is empty. garotte for examlpe just lasts for 7 hits and this can be quite dangerous if your endu is empty and the enemy is still able to do styls.

Cadam wrote:actually SB is really good because the offhand swings with every hit.... basicly grants you about 60-100 more dmg each hit, while ns and inf skill less in DW and therefore have little chance to hit with offhand.

playing SB on that other server and yeah 9sec stun from inf and AP from NS is really hard but its possible to win even against those enemys.

my SB is rr5 and i kill rr10 ns

ah btw i use swordspec and draw out as anytimer.... lowest endu anytime styl for all assassin classes, youll be able to hit 10 times till endu is empty. garotte for examlpe just lasts for 7 hits and this can be quite dangerous if your endu is empty and the enemy is still able to do styls.

Thank you for your feedback, but you are offtopic dude. It is not a debate here to know what is the best of all stealthers (ns, inf, sb).
We all know sb is VERY good class. My concern is about inf vs ns for PERSONNAL reasons.
I will not play midgard, i don't like it for personnal matters. i like hib and alb, more hib if i had to make a choice. now doing more dmg with swords and left hand spec etc is not much or less powerfull than dragonfang.
it is a matter of playstyle and personnal taste.

Now please if it is possible to come back to the topic.

I don't have decided yet between inf and ns, but not i would like advices on which toon i should do FIRST in order to stuff and get geared my stealther.
it will requires money, so i need a money make. for personnal choices i m excluding some class (even i could look stupid but i don't care, i really want to enjoy my farming class first, coz farming is actually boring to me).

here is my options :

For ALB

- cleric (easy grped, needed for raid, needed for cabby or necro duo farming)
- theurg (easy grped, needed for raid)
- sorc (easy grped, needed for raid, maybe a bit harder for solo than theurg)
- cabby (amazing for solo and duo farming, but i never tried pet focus farming)
- friar (soloer, hard to get grped, nobody needs it for raids, but non stop solo farming even slow and boring)

For HIB

- druid (same reasons as cleric)
- menty (same reasons as sorc)
- chanter (same reasons as cabby)
- warden or valewalker ??? (same rasons as friar)


i know i did not mentioned necro and animist. i really dislike thoses class. as i said i want to farm AND have fun, so please don't troll me and try to help me instead
all thoses chars could be tailors for salvage.

thx

Autarch wrote:friar (soloer, hard to get grped, nobody needs it for raids, but non stop solo farming even slow and boring)

I think Friar is wanted for dragon raids for the resists, at least you can join that raids with it

Ilerget wrote:

Autarch wrote:friar (soloer, hard to get grped, nobody needs it for raids, but non stop solo farming even slow and boring)

I think Friar is wanted for dragon raids for the resists, at least you can join that raids with it

ok thx for pointing that, what about your general opinion then ?

I think you will have fun no matter the realm you choose, but I'll refrain my opinion because I don't know very well hibernia and will be a biased opinion

Ilerget wrote:I think you will have fun no matter the realm you choose, but I'll refrain my opinion because I don't know very well hibernia and will be a biased opinion

so help me concerning albion

much appreciated dude

what I've seen in genesis is that 9 sec stun + double PA that infi has seems more OP than NS tools, but I didn't play myself any stealther at bigboy RvR to give you a proved opinion, but ppl keep QQing asking to reduce dragonfang to 5sec all the time.

(Now its time for some1 to post biased opinions saying that NS will kick infi asses ALL DAY LONG )

actually i was talking about good farming class for hib and alb to start fresh and get money for my stealther, as you could see in my previous post

Autarch wrote:actually i was talking about good farming class for hib and alb to start fresh and get money for my stealther, as you could see in my previous post

in alb I used matter cabby for this tasks, in hib animist and you said you don't want to talk about this class

Autarch wrote:For ALB

- cleric (easy grped, needed for raid, needed for cabby or necro duo farming)
- theurg (easy grped, needed for raid)
- sorc (easy grped, needed for raid, maybe a bit harder for solo than theurg)
- cabby (amazing for solo and duo farming, but i never tried pet focus farming)
- friar (soloer, hard to get grped, nobody needs it for raids, but non stop solo farming even slow and boring)

I agree with most of this, but I'm not sure if sorc is needed for raids, my experience with my mind sorc in Uth 1.0 is that I was nearly kidnapped for RvR but close to impossible to find PvE grps with him. If you prefer raids for money go cleric or theurg, for solo you can use theurg, friar or cabby, if you want to mix raids and solo farm I'll go for teurg or friar. Friar is wanted in dragon raids, but don't know other raids.

All this is personal opinion and I can be totally wrong ofc

you are right, theurg and friar seems to be the best bet as a farming versatile char for albion.
being able to make raids, dragons AND solo killing is important i guess.

i m now thinking about hib side.

outside menty and chanter, i m wondering about warden and VW.

VW seems pretty solid choice, and not expensive to build since it wears cloth. he seems able to handle on his own like a friar. Warden seems quite good aswell, but i m not sure about the dps... lol, regarding soloing when not in raid i don't think it can follow a friar or a VW.

Autarch wrote:you are right, theurg and friar seems to be the best bet as a farming versatile char for albion.
being able to make raids, dragons AND solo killing is important i guess.

i m now thinking about hib side.

outside menty and chanter, i m wondering about warden and VW.

VW seems pretty solid choice, and not expensive to build since it wears cloth. he seems able to handle on his own like a friar. Warden seems quite good aswell, but i m not sure about the dps... lol, regarding soloing when not in raid i don't think it can follow a friar or a VW.

I can't see any reason a group would be looking for a VW for a raid though. Warden for sure w/ PBT

Nezix wrote:

Autarch wrote:you are right, theurg and friar seems to be the best bet as a farming versatile char for albion.
being able to make raids, dragons AND solo killing is important i guess.

i m now thinking about hib side.

outside menty and chanter, i m wondering about warden and VW.

VW seems pretty solid choice, and not expensive to build since it wears cloth. he seems able to handle on his own like a friar. Warden seems quite good aswell, but i m not sure about the dps... lol, regarding soloing when not in raid i don't think it can follow a friar or a VW.

I can't see any reason a group would be looking for a VW for a raid though. Warden for sure w/ PBT

but what about soloing as a warden when i m not in raid ? it seems a pain in the ass regarding dps, like a paladin dps ?

Worse than Paladin DPS I would think.

I think it's clear Albion is the choice!

Nezix wrote:Worse than Paladin DPS I would think.

I think it's clear Albion is the choice!

so no cool style elf NS as i always liked

lol

but if i go hib there should be a viable choice for a prior char which is not animist

Autarch wrote:
VW seems pretty solid choice, and not expensive to build since it wears cloth.

Are you kidding ? A VW cost much much much money !!!
5 stats to cap + 3 skills + all resists + hp with only 1 hand weapon

GL HF with cheap items