Pretty hilarious how the server is great and deserves all praise when you can get your egoistical kicks out of it, but then when they make a decision that's harmful for you, your immature rage unleashes.

I've always known how shallow you were, kinda funny to see it being laid out here like that. I hope you can recover some day.

Who cares son?

Zarkor wrote:Pretty hilarious how the server is great and deserves all praise when you can get your egoistical kicks out of it, but then when they make a decision that's harmful for you, your immature rage unleashes.

I've always known how shallow you were, kinda funny to see it being laid out here like that. I hope you can recover some day.

I was actually thinking of you the other day Zarkor. The famous prophet speaking of the impending Armageddon of Uthgard. Well, I guess you were right about it after all. Grats on that!

As far as your "shallow" comments those are just a cheap shot with no weight behind them at all. Same as some of the trolling that has been going on with players like Svp and Kayd. It show's the type of people you are to gain joy out of others misery. Congrats on being douches. Well done!

I've always wanted what was best for this server since I started here. My views changed and evolved as I seen beyond just my own perceptions of how this game could be improved for me personally. I recommended several changes that not only personally hurt my class and play style but sometimes even helped those that I disliked. I helped fixed bugs that my class abused. I encouraged new players and gave advice. I suggested countless ideas that could have helped bridge the divide between casual and hardcore players. But hey, it was all about me right?

The facts are simple. I've put in probably 8+ months of actual game time sitting in front of my computer to achieve RR's, gear, and yes FUN along the way. That is time I could have been doing anything else over the last 4 years. Instead I played here and worked on this, as pathetic as that sounds. All of that is tossed away essentially because very little or none of the suggestions from players like myself, yourself, and countless others were heeded.

To take the emotions I feel about this and turn it into a "Hahahaha, your so shallow" moment is laughable at best. I've talked with Blue and I understand his reasoning for his choices. I just don't wish to begin that long journey again only to possibly have it all wiped away once more.

RonELuvv wrote:Yah, that's ****** hilarious all right. Spent days, weeks, months of my life playing a game just to have it thrown out because a new server hurt the population and the GM's over react and listen to idiots that find it funny to take away others hard work. So f'ing funny...

If you don't like to xp, build your template, and all other things that you mention by talking about waste of months, then i think that you should play on a i50 server.

HulkGris wrote:If you don't like to xp, build your template, and all other things that you mention by talking about waste of months, then i think that you should play on a i50 server.

If you don't like to re-xp, re-build your template, then you should play on a server that doesn't wipe

RazorRamon wrote:I unlike you Zack, never got to 10L0.... I was trying! but sh!t seemed to go sour once i hit 6L3, sweeping game changes, decreasing population, the general attitude of staff here, as well as those elitists groups never picking up the new guy. Left a real nasty taste in my mouth. It also left me feeling as though I left something very much unfinished here.

My eventual goal was to have a rr10+ Inf since there are so few high RR Infs. Then starting this summer changes started to bother me. I took a break played some other realms to make some visi toons and then in October I was like like "You know what screw this". This is back when I thought Origins would never ever come out.

As said before the GMs think this is all about Recharge stones and barrels. Its not. The attitude of the GMs is a huge factor. I could almost imagine Abydos doing "/send blue lol look how mad we made the players haha!" a couple of months back.

Also no matter what Uthgard does, they cannot compete with American population. The Uth American population has always been low. If Origins can maintain 500+ American players there is no reason for me to come back here.

I am not a Euro. I couldn't care less if Requiem beat ROTLA on Tuesday morning at 10am for vice vera. Meaningless to me. Some American players have made it their goal to join a Euro guild and log on every single day at 10am.

I am hoping I can hop on at 5pm and get good action. Uthgard has never been able to offer that.

I have 2 reasons that i rolled on Origins.

1st reason: Instant action with high numbers during American playtime. I try to log into Uthgard first and foremost, but 59 players online when i log on isnt getting it on Uthgard, so yes, i am feeding the beast. I have limited playtime and with a new baby on the way it will be even less. So i have the option of spending 1 hour twiddling my thumbs, or i can play a class unavailable on Uthgard and reminisce while exploring something i havent seen in 7 or 8 years (SI).

2nd reason: Spite. Far too many times i saw a response from certain gm's that "This is our goal... you know this is our goal... if you don't like the way we run things gtfo". I know there are more things that are causing low pop on Uthgard, but attitude for me was one of the final straws. I would still rather play there. I, like Zack, have a lot of time invested on Uthgard. So in the end, while im sorry to see the extremely low #'s every night... i'm kind of snickering under my breath about it. Players were told if they didnt like it to go do something else... maybe they did.

nice for you... why you dont leave this Forum too instead of writing down senseless crap. go to origins and stay happy! no 1 want to know why you leave.. btw i think it is ok when such Players like you left the Server... bye

Celteen wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:Yah, that's ****** hilarious all right. Spent days, weeks, months of my life playing a game just to have it thrown out because a new server hurt the population and the GM's over react and listen to idiots that find it funny to take away others hard work. So f'ing funny...

So did you have fun playing or did you just play for RR10 and best gear?
I dont care if they wipe, it will be even more fun than running around with my rr10 and 11 chars.

Well Zack, I like you but calling ppl idiots cause they have another opinion about the reset then you, is just idiotic and selfish .

Every Uthgard players is losing something when this reset will be, I ve all crafters leg. on Hib what took me years of playtime, and I don ´t cry, why?
I think a reset and new start is the only way to save this shard, if you think I ´m an idiot, fine, but it ´s my honest opinion. Mistakes were made in the past, now we are paying the price, I don ´t think staff is going ease on that situation, killing this server is a big failure for the staff and I don ´t think anyone is happy with it at all.

Topaz wrote:nice for you... why you dont leave this Forum too instead of writing down senseless crap. go to origins and stay happy! no 1 want to know why you leave.. btw i think it is ok when such Players like you left the Server... bye

It's not senseless crap at all. Uth staff are interested in why players leave the server and the proof is shown with their recent news posts and the sudden impulse to revive the server. If they aren't told what players would have liked to have been different to get them to stay here, what would be the point in their hard work, how are they supposed to know what works and what doesn't?

Players like him leaving because another server is more FUN, in their opinion, is the reason the GM's are even contemplating this wipe. Really, the idiots are the people that tell these players, and have been telling these players, to 'l2p or gtfo, Uth doesn't need you!', because then you end up in a situation like this where you still have loyal fanboys sprouting crap like, "don't listen to the qq'ers, we don't need them!", when this group RvR centric MMO has a pop of ~<100 players.

Force wrote:

HulkGris wrote:If you don't like to xp, build your template, and all other things that you mention by talking about waste of months, then i think that you should play on a i50 server.

If you don't like to re-xp, re-build your template, then you should play on a server that doesn't wipe

I like it dude.

I enjoyed it as well Hulkgris, however I dont wish to do it again. Also, getting to 50 and templated was a little blip of time compared to the time frame I spend doing RvR. That is what I certainly won't redo. I could have played VERY casually 4-6 hours in an entire week and made all my toons lvl 50 and templated in a couple years. It took me playing 25-30 hours a week for 3.5-4 years to get my RR's.

I dont want an insta 50 server. I want to work for my stuff. I like the grind. If I wanted to repeat it I would make a new toon. Hell, I just did this a few months ago when I made a friar. Just because I like it doesnt mean I should smile and say thanks when they take away all my hard work because they didnt listen when we told them there were problems a long time ago.

sure thing... but look at it this way: Would you start on a new server? A nearly bug and custom free real 1.69 Server, with old RA (ok i also hate them, but who cares), SI and crowded even during US prime time? If so there is no reason why not to start on the relaunched uthgard 2.0.

It will be in no way different than a complete new server.

holsten-knight wrote:sure thing... but look at it this way: Would you start on a new server? A nearly bug and custom free real 1.69 Server, with old RA (ok i also hate them, but who cares), SI and crowded even during US prime time? If so there is no reason why not to start on the relaunched uthgard 2.0.

It will be in no way different than a complete new server.

Would I start on a new server: Honestly, no. I wouldn't. I feel guilty about the amount of time I have spent on THIS server. Think about how much time you invested to get your toons where they are today Holsten. Think about what you could have done with your real life if you had dedicated half of that time to something else. I'm not going to lie, I honestly believe 100% that I could have got a college degree for the amount of time I spend and probably still had more left over. I would NEVER restart the process again on ANY server. I like the game, but I cant do that journey again at my age. Also, i'm not the kind of player that can just re-roll twinks and do some PvE and play 4-5 hours a week. I'm a max out player. I want the best for my toons and I want to earn the RR's even if it takes years.

Even if its bug free, and Old RA's is not bonus for me. I hate Old RA's and think people have nostaligia and forget how badly imbalanced they actually were. Much like the OF vs NF topic that raged here before I came to this server. Crowded during US prime time sounds nice, but I'm not dumb. There has been many times on Uthgard in which US prime time had good action. It dies down over time just like it will on Origins. Once the newness wears off the casuals will quit going due to elites farming them. Then elites quit going out because nobody to fight. Then you end up with what we had on Uthgard over the last couple years. Great, we wiped away all the hard work so we could have another year at most of "fair" times.

holsten-knight wrote:sure thing... but look at it this way: Would you start on a new server? A nearly bug and custom free real 1.69 Server, with old RA (ok i also hate them, but who cares), SI and crowded even during US prime time? If so there is no reason why not to start on the relaunched uthgard 2.0.

It will be in no way different than a complete new server.

I agree, but the problem is Origins is offering something that is almost exactly that. If they can get the server problems under control before uthgard 2.0 launches people will roll there because it is up first. That reason alone. If Origins doesnt get their ****** together and Uthgard gets back up in a month there would be a huge migration of players to Uthgard. Its as simple as that in my opinion.

People wanted SI and a fresh start.