I was thinking the same thing Ivann. Even if this was truly just a HUGE lucky streak and every hit was hitting an armor piece with a heal proc and causing a proc to go off, you would think w/ 2 people hitting him he wouldn't gain life but rather just lose life very slowly. This actually pushed him from well below 50% to full life and it did it pretty fast.

Well, I will just have to keep my eye open for it and do my best to get a fraps of this behavior so we can get more details as to how its being done. At first I thought maybe it was an item that was bugged, but with it being a ranger and a ns I've experienced it on I doubt its an item, unless the ranger was wearing a leather piece of armor since the NS cant wear reinforced.

As I said before, if anyone reading this know's either of the 2 players mentioned please have them post here their side of what happened. Maybe this is not something the player is even aware of, much like people who would get crits on crit shots but had no clue why or how.

I think there's a new breed of invisible players roaming around. Ive seen someone being shot to death by noone from nowhere, i couldnt see anyone and i looked everywhere. Maybe there was an invisible druid or something healing him rofl.

Please report such occurrence quickly by /callgm when it happens.

Hi, Chimo here.

I will confirm that I do have a heal proc in my template. I also have a lifetap proc (but you said you didn't see that animation). I also use heal pots frequently.

I don't recall seeing a ton of heals go off in that fight. I remember you running in a group of 3, and popping me out of stealth, and I killed 2 of you (I barely killed Lycana).

My comments towards the situation are:

1. There was possibly a bard around somewhere who saw a 3v1 and tossed me some heals? I have no idea. I didn't investigate the log after the fight because I didn't see there being any issue. I see bards running solo in emain all the time, but I have ZERO idea if one was around then.

2. That day, I don't know if this is still the case, but on that day Lycana was level 49. I know this because I use the herald when picking my targets. I also noticed that while fighting Lycana, my proc rates were MUCH higher than vs level 50's. I killed him several times that day, and I definitely noticed that my LT proc was going off more, and I can't remember if my heal proc did or not.

3. I played a NS on live until rr9 or so, and I recall seeing people's HP bar jump around in % mixed with the use of the S/C poison. Since Geppii was a SB, and he came in to the fight last as the third member of your 3v1, he may have applied S/C poison to me, which would have lowered my total hp available, but not taken away a significant amount of my remaining hp. Simple math says that when this poison is applied, my hp % should go up even though I did not gain any hp. It's something I contemplate when using a S/C charge because I wonder if since my total HP goes up, if a S/C poison takes away more hp.

4. I had every charge/buff up that I run at the moment I got too close and you found me. So I was 100% combat ready, and you may not have been. Also, the three of you were not running parallel to each other, and you were the last in line, so I imagine there was a lag time before the others realized you were in combat. That helped me.

All of this being said... The reason I still play daoc is because it really gets my heart pumping when I know I'm about to engage someone. That wouldn't be the case if there was no threat of me dying aka if I used some sort of hack. Hopefully I can continue to get some favorable 1vX situations in the future, and some good fights.

Cheers guys.

Thank you for the reply Chimo, and I cant stress enough that I am not trying to accuse you or anyone of trying to break rules. I just noticed the heals going off like crazy when you and I were fighting and then by the time you got to Lycana you were almost back to full life. I agree that the 2nd jump of life that Lycana reported was probably because of the S/C debuff poison from Geppi.

I can affirm there was no bard in range for heals. As soon as I seen the heal animation go off 2-3 times in a row I started panning at that point and the animations continued long after I panned. Where we were between MTK and MMG there was no place for a bard/druid/warden to heal and not be visible.

It is possible that you may be onto something with proc rates versus lower level toons. I never really thought of that. I will have to check into that and add that into my list of "research" items. Another thing I want to test is if evade/block rates increase when not in combat. I fight a ranger (Aimia) alot and every time I see her and try to pop her when we both have camo up she evades all the time. I had heard from another player that block chance and evade rates actually increase when not in combat so I thought about doing a lil test and seeing if there is any validity to that. Now I will have to try and put this on that list as well!

As far as you killing us 3 vs 1, well I wasnt worried about that at all. Like I said, when I popped you I had no camo up, used no bow, only had 1 charge up besides my self buffs, and we were not actually all together. We were just running out together (not grouped) as a safety precaution since it was early in the day and still pretty zergy. I knew you were going to kill me, and was a tad surprised that you got Lycana, but killing us was not the shocking part at all. It was the amount of heals going off.

Also, if this was the first time I had seen this then I probably wouldnt have said anything at all, but since I've seen it a few times now I figured I would at least post and see if others have noticed this. I was also hoping you would come in and post since I think its important to get the other players insights into this. I certainly didnt think it was intentional or malicious on your part and I thank you for responding in a cordial way and not seeing this as an attack on you as a player.

Hope to see you out there again Chimo!! I couldnt agree more with your last comment. If I had a hack that made me indestructible it would completely remove the reason why I play the game. Hope to see you back out there again and look forward to our next fight!

Yeah I didn't really feel too accused, I just felt your post was more of a "what the f*** happened here!?!?"

All of that being said, no I'm not cheating, and those were my best attempts to explain the situation you may have seen.

ALL of that being said... dude if you want to fight a solo and there are two stealth nearby... stealth up, pull aside, do your thing. Don't pop me for a 3v1 man

Chimo wrote:ALL of that being said... dude if you want to fight a solo and there are two stealth nearby... stealth up, pull aside, do your thing. Don't pop me for a 3v1 man

Fair enough, and you can ask most people on this server, 95% of the time I would have done just what you said. Waited till the other 2 were gone and fought you 1 vs 1 as that is what I normally prefer. At that time of day we had been at AMG and it was an absolute zerg fest with stealthers. I think Albs had 3-4 alb stealthers roaming and adding everything, Hibs had like 6-8 stealthers roaming and adding everything, and the Mids had 3-5. On top of that we had visi's from all 3 realms coming along and killing any stealthers around when we were uncovered.

I will admit that as unfair as it sounds and is, at the point we saw you was the same point that I went from "I'm going to try and be my usual respectful self looking for a fair 1 vs 1 fight," to ,"Screw this crap! I'm killing all in sight!" I think I actually zerged Infitium earlier that day and that guy is maybe the most solo oriented player I have ever met. (Not to be confused with Initium who is the exact opposite.)

I guess what I am saying is please excuse my actions on that day as normally I dont play that way. I hate to be that person that says, "I play solo, except..." but on this particular day I was totally that guy.

Fair enough. See you out there!

I still remember dinging 50 on you

https://skydrive.live.com/#cid=B3FA1A1F ... %21531&v=3

Then again, as I've been out of practice, next time I met you at 50, you handed my ass to me!