Blue wrote:The problem was the pricing as there were piles of BP available on older chars.

I dont see any problem in a price of around 40-50k Bps... I would really really love the idea to have at least the chance of getting a reskin someday... would die for one

Abydos wrote:

BobtheSkelly wrote: Or even just the ability to color dropped weapons? There is a lot of potential for this, and it could encourage more people to come out and RvR to get the bounty points they need for their awesome look.

Check page 2 of the event merchant. SI-only weapon enamels for dropped items are available for Uthalis already

Yes I know they are available though uthalis. But that requires a lot of participation in events, which isn't feasible for a lot of players on the server (specifically the American time, we have had 1 event on our time i think?). I would think a BP available enamel would be a lot more of an attainable goal. Plus like people have already said, it would be another incentive to go out and RvR, which is not a bad thing. Like RonE said, the gear you wear is a cool badge of honor to deck out a toon to show your RvR participation, specifically for your own realm who doesn't see your rank without checking herald. I would also agree with it would need to be bound to the specific toon you gained the BPs on.

I like the idea of bringing more people out to RvR, but by devaluing Epic Reskins (of which I paid 90p for) is not something I'm interested in seeing. I personally think YOU, Zack, just want an epic reskin / reskins .

Anywayz, your whole idea is just a temporary band aid (like you said, it would only bring 50 more ppl out max to emain) to the problem if decreasing ppl in RvR. Things are fine the way they are.

What needs to happen is classes need to be fixed and players need to be inclusive of other non hardcore RvR players who want to come out and have some fun. You play a Ranger Zack, go make a group and bring up the action yourself instead of recommending the GMs jump in.

Arnooagi12 wrote:Anywayz, your whole idea is just a temporary band aid (like you said, it would only bring 50 more ppl out max to emain) to the problem if decreasing ppl in RvR. Things are fine the way they are.

50 people are 6 FGs, that would mean a HUGE increase in population

it is actually a really good idea to offer reskins or similar stuff that does not impact the gameplay / mechanics of the game for BPs. The argument of Abydos actually shows, that he does not understand the intention of this change. We know that there are already reskins/colours etc. available, but you need to participate in pve. To get people to the rvr, you need rvr-related rewards. If Blue does not like the idea of BP, because some chars already got plenty, then just implement a new kind of points that equally scales with BPs. So everyone starts at 0.

50 people is already alot, even 20 more people, and may they run in a 16slot, may be a great benefit to the current rvr situation. the thing is, with such an incentive, mostly pve lovers will join the rvr. they are not competetive, so to gain the points, they will run sticked. this will further boost your idea of epic fights.

really, there is nothing against the idea, its simple and good. and thus worth getting implemented.

Abydos wrote:This idea devalues the SI epic dungeon loot, which has epic armor skin.

Temporary reskin then, 1 week or 1 month for example.

If the purpose of the idea, is to get people to RvR and draw new players to the server, then you can't introduce rewards based on things already accomplished, such as BP's, which many people have tons of.
What will happen is that those who have BP's will be able to buy the stuff, and sell it to those who don't have any. People who stopped playing, will lend their account to people already playing and then they can buy it.

In short, you wont get more action, just more re-skins and people already established reaping the benefits (aka: plats) for it.

If you want to introduce this (with the intention to attract players to RvR), everyone has to start from scratch, or make these "Bind on Acquire" so they can't be sold.

OP:

RonELuvv wrote:I would suggest Epic reskin scrolls that are non tradable for high BP's.

^^

I don't have any characters that would qualify "yet" with enough bps, but it would be an incentive to me to put in more time in RvR. i still think this is a good idea. I was suggesting something like this as an alternative to what i "think" may happen. During offpeak hours, if a raid is advertised on (insert realm here) , i believe there will be a huge swing in population for that time. When i play, i usually see 50-75 player per realm on.... If, lets say US alb players were to schedule a Caer Sidi raid for tonight, and it is advertised, i think the swing would be huge. Who knows, if this happens, you may see a few single group relic raids, while the "populated" realm is on an epic raid. I can forsee a day when i do a /who and see 10 players online with 200 on the server.

I agree with this idea, reskin epic no tradeable, around 20k bps for have it, its a long way of rvr, and im sure will bring some ppl in rvr

Arnooagi12 wrote:I like the idea of bringing more people out to RvR, but by devaluing Epic Reskins (of which I paid 90p for) is not something I'm interested in seeing. I personally think YOU, Zack, just want an epic reskin / reskins .

Anywayz, your whole idea is just a temporary band aid (like you said, it would only bring 50 more ppl out max to emain) to the problem if decreasing ppl in RvR. Things are fine the way they are.

What needs to happen is classes need to be fixed and players need to be inclusive of other non hardcore RvR players who want to come out and have some fun. You play a Ranger Zack, go make a group and bring up the action yourself instead of recommending the GMs jump in.

I understand that you would feel "cheated" since you had to spend 90p (lol, you overpaid) for an epic reskin, but nobody said it had to be an epic reskin. Just some sort of fluff eye candy to get people to go out and RvR. You prove my point... You spent 90p for a reskin that does NOTHING to improve your toon. Do you think casual players wouldnt invest ALOT of RvR time in order to get the same thing? You also seem to forget that you also have bp's and could also benefit from this. It's not like those that allready have reskins wouldnt want more. I know of people that have 6+ reskins, and guess what, they are always looking for more. It sounds to me like your just against it because you dont want anyone else to get a reskin. Also, I could care less if I get one, I got enough money to buy one if I wanted it that bad, the one thing I would like more of is action in Emain. Also, you know I prefer solo RvR, but I do group up on occasion when I cant find any solo action and when there is group action to be had.

Spivo wrote:If the purpose of the idea, is to get people to RvR and draw new players to the server, then you can't introduce rewards based on things already accomplished, such as BP's, which many people have tons of.
What will happen is that those who have BP's will be able to buy the stuff, and sell it to those who don't have any. People who stopped playing, will lend their account to people already playing and then they can buy it.

In short, you wont get more action, just more re-skins and people already established reaping the benefits (aka: plats) for it.

If you want to introduce this (with the intention to attract players to RvR), everyone has to start from scratch, or make these "Bind on Acquire" so they can't be sold.

As said about this earlier these would be non-tradeable. In other words nobody could just go and sell them to others. Not only would you not be able to buy this reskin and not sell it, but after you put it on a piece of your armor that would armor would become non tradeable. I also realise people have alot of BP's sitting around, but so what? The idea is to get new people out to RvR, and anyone who plays this game know's this would get some more people out there. The people that have been RvR'ing and trying to keep RvR populated should get the same benefit.

One other quick note I just thought of, for people like Arnooagi that have paid a very nice price for a reskin, you do realise that once item degradation gets implemented that reskin of yours will be junk when that armor piece degrades down over time. Now you would have a way to potentially get another skin to replace that one when the time comes. I realise that it will take a long time for an item to degrade, but its still nice to know you can replace it when needed.

Abydos wrote:This idea devalues the SI epic dungeon loot, which has epic armor skin.

i dont think so because SI drops got special procs and special stats that makes them to be wanted

Cadam wrote:

Abydos wrote:This idea devalues the SI epic dungeon loot, which has epic armor skin.

i dont think so because SI drops got special procs and special stats that makes them to be wanted

SI items do not have 'special stats' like you think of TOA. The only special ability in all of SI that is not a proc/charge is the passive end/power regen if you equip the full suit of armor

and afai can remember big healprocs on torso (180 i think)