It's funny how people seriously believe that the 1v1 happening on Uth is actually RP Farming. Celteen is the funniest example tbh, i would love to compare Celteen's LWRP's when he was adding each and every single fight and ganking everyone he saw with his best friend Killkeen to the LWRP's of for example Divinarchangel or or someone else who is regulary doing 1v1. I would guess adding fights is ALOT more benifical and therefor gets alot closer to RP-Farming than doing 1v1. Generally said though both of it is not RP-Farming. But It is also easier, as you can ALWAYS chose your opponent running bardspeed+sprint. We could also compare the many times the Evil Soloer's are being ganked once they set a feet into emain as a visible to the named duo's frequency of being ganked. Mhmhm

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It must be hard to see, that there is a difference between /bow duel /rezz /bow duel /rezz and roaming around killing ppl

Siminor wrote:One could argue that running 16 plus or fg of stealths is rp farming as well. Don't see why people still get all mad when they see a 1 vs 1 fight and they join in and wonder why both people attack them. Usually the people calling gm are mad because they died or their realm mate didn't help them in a 1 vs 1 fight. Uthgard is a small population so it doesn't make sense to zerg and add all because people will just quit and no fun for the rest of the night because it is not easy to fill groups even at prime time. With the amount of xrealming etc, I'd rather see Uthgard as a pvp server but just my 2 cents.

FWIW, 100% DISagree with Siminor.

Rules

§3.4 Fights between players of different realms – arranged duels
Arranged duels between players of different realms are not allowed. The players are not allowed to organize or arrange their fighting. This is realmpoint-farming and is strictly prohibited.

1v1 fight are nice, but arranged fight with rezzer and alt-tab irc seems to be "strictly prohibited".

pweet wrote:It must be hard to see, that there is a difference between /bow duel /rezz /bow duel /rezz and roaming around killing ppl

This should be golden now

HulkGris wrote:Rules

§3.4 Fights between players of different realms – arranged duels
Arranged duels between players of different realms are not allowed. The players are not allowed to organize or arrange their fighting. This is realmpoint-farming and is strictly prohibited.

1v1 fight are nice, but arranged fight with rezzer and alt-tab irc seems to be "strictly prohibited".

The line was grayed even more, recently. It all becomes perception/opinion, and most people's differ. Original post viewtopic.php?f=44&t=26431

For further notice: This decision on less interference means the following:

a. A player can sit next to a realm enemy if he chooses to.
b. A player can choose not to attack a player if he chooses to.
c. Arranged fights are not allowed, especially not in low activity areas
d. Queue like situations where people line up waiting to fight is not allowed

You could break a-d down and have a long discussion about each.

Players can choose who to fight or not to fight when "randomly" encountering each other. And can rest next to each other without fighting to death at such a "random" encounter. But this is a slippery slope. You can not rezz up rest next to enemy that killed you and fight again and wash repeat and rince. this is where the problem of rp farming would step in. rezzing,resting fight fighting same enemies and die or living over and over is definitely forbidden.

With a hot spot like amg where everyone knows were to go find a fight every instance of possible rp farming has to be investigated to be sure in indeed that rp farming and not just slow period or what ever. and checked to see if it goes to or beyond what i stated above or rule 3.4.

I understand that each instance would have to be investigated. I wouldnt want the job as gm. I've seen many nights when 1 (insert realm) person was at amg and 15 (insert other realm) people were taking turns fighting that solo.

Rajnish wrote:Players can choose who to fight or not to fight when "randomly" encountering each other. And can rest next to each other without fighting to death at such a "random" encounter. But this is a slippery slope. You can not rezz up rest next to enemy that killed you and fight again and wash repeat and rince. this is where the problem of rp farming would step in. rezzing,resting fight fighting same enemies and die or living over and over is definitely forbidden.

With a hot spot like amg where everyone knows were to go find a fight every instance of possible rp farming has to be investigated to be sure in indeed that rp farming and not just slow period or what ever. and checked to see if it goes to or beyond what i stated above or rule 3.4.

And when do you want to start with this?
I have yet to see any ban recently. Banning 2 people every half a year is not really scary. Short on staff is no argument, it happens almost every day but staff doesn't want to see it ?

Common situation:
It's 3 albs vs 3 hibs + warden and friar as back up rezz sitting next to each other at amg (random encounter for sure). Then warden / friar are rezzing, but no one attacks the rezzer. And it just repeats in a loop till a GM shows up (hint look at ban section) So it's basically never ending till some players show up and have balls for RvR
Also a common tactic is having your realm fighting vs you by breaking CC.
Imo if they rezz, all enemies have to kill the rezzer / rezzed else it's RP farming.

Celteen wrote:

Rajnish wrote:Imo if they rezz, all enemies have to kill the rezzer / rezzed else it's RP farming.

. . .Unless you play bard. REZ AND RUN!

everyone knows his enemy better than its friend

uthgard is an incest village

I would like to call into argument the porn vs art argument. It was said that a person just know's the differene between porn and art by looking at it. The same could be said about this.

There is a world of difference between me having a 1 vs 1 and a rez'r coming along to rez the dead then move on and having people just sitting around and fighting over and over again w/ a person getting rez'd. One is fine, the other is wrong. I've seen some pally's that will hang out at AMG while I fight an infiltrator. After the fight was over I moved away and the pally rez'd the inf and that was that. I might come back later and re-fight the inf or I may attack the pally, but I would not call this rp farming.

Magicco wrote:everyone knows his enemy better than its friend

uthgard is an incest village

That's the real problem, and also the low rvr population, always same "friends" around

I had an impressive experience in Thidranki where i killed some solos with a guildie.

There were two people who logged mid after fight and wrote me i am a fag and
that i'm a total retard and shall stop rude them and stop zerg solos.


Is that allowed?
I mean i think it got a reason that realms speak in different ingame languages

Make screens and send to GM.