RVR: behavior like this just kills the server....

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Postby holsten-knight » Jun 16, 2012 18:44

sad thing dg was not there... i gladly admit i would have ganked him on purpose :D

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Postby LindsayLohan » Jun 16, 2012 18:51

holsten-knight wrote:sad thing dg was not there... i gladly admit i would have ganked him on purpose :D

xD at least holsten zerg everything and admit it
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Postby knutii » Jun 16, 2012 19:07

ive tried quite a long time to make solo rvr with pala, but was not possible.

the only difference is that i have never make a qq thread about that.
i was gank so often, it interrested me anyway not what u write

and btw, when all think we add and gank everything ok, then i can do that.
its a good idea to orient themselves at the front-runners on uthgard what high rr do is correct.
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Postby Caemma » Jun 16, 2012 19:11

This topic is pointless, war is war, u cant blame your enemy if he kill you in the middle of the battlefield.

You can only respect who dont.

There rest is QQ, if want do only fair duels try Soul Caliburs, pretty nice for 1v1!

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Postby holsten-knight » Jun 16, 2012 19:12

Welcome, solos are supposed to add in every grp fight they see imo, we are always sorry for solos not adding our fights. We still kill them after the fight is over, never expect something else :grin:

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Postby Austerim » Jun 16, 2012 19:13

Where is it written that solos should add fights, full groups should zerg solos, etc.? Not everyone plays like a mindless retard like DG.
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Postby holsten-knight » Jun 16, 2012 19:19

i never said they must add... they can also run and hide while the fight is going on. I just said what they should expect when the fight is over, still they can add or not or do whatever they want.

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Postby miggy » Jun 16, 2012 21:39

Caemma wrote:This topic is pointless, war is war, u cant blame your enemy if he kill you in the middle of the battlefield.


This right here is a major thought process for most people here i think.
But the problem with that thinking is that your aren't taking into consideration that if a person is introduced to this game get to lvl 50 but are then constantly getting ganked they will say F-it and leave. As it is this server is slowly dying with all the new games, but then when you drive away the small amount of new players left you only have the hardcore elites who will eventually get tired of this game and move on.

THIS IS A GAME NOT REAL LIFE! just to point out you are playing with other people so if you only want to think about getting rps rps rps and more rps and not about how this might effect the player your ganking then eventually your selfishness will just lead to the end of the game.

I would like to point out im not QQing about getting ganked but im more worried about how this effects people and whether the server will survive. Not everyone can play as much as some of the people that do play here, and those people who don't play often are going to be discouraged if the few times they log on they are always ganked.

thanks everyone for replying here its nice to know that of everyone only ONE person seemed to agree with the points i made and to those who are dismissing this thread . . . well i said in the first post what i think of that :wink:
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Beasty 2 (watch all video's from here down in 720p) 24:20 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCafcu0-1Ts
Beasty 3 19:10 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA316ozHMpA
Beasty 4 23:53 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB1oz4vRhk0
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Postby Caemma » Jun 16, 2012 23:53

miggy wrote:
Caemma wrote:This topic is pointless, war is war, u cant blame your enemy if he kill you in the middle of the battlefield.


This right here is a major thought process for most people here i think.
But the problem with that thinking is that your aren't taking into consideration that if a person is introduced to this game get to lvl 50 but are then constantly getting ganked they will say F-it and leave. As it is this server is slowly dying with all the new games, but then when you drive away the small amount of new players left you only have the hardcore elites who will eventually get tired of this game and move on.

THIS IS A GAME NOT REAL LIFE! just to point out you are playing with other people so if you only want to think about getting rps rps rps and more rps and not about how this might effect the player your ganking then eventually your selfishness will just lead to the end of the game.

I would like to point out im not QQing about getting ganked but im more worried about how this effects people and whether the server will survive. Not everyone can play as much as some of the people that do play here, and those people who don't play often are going to be discouraged if the few times they log on they are always ganked.

thanks everyone for replying here its nice to know that of everyone only ONE person seemed to agree with the points i made and to those who are dismissing this thread . . . well i said in the first post what i think of that :wink:

Sadly, the server is dying not because of this behavior.. but this is another story.

Anyway, im sorry but i'll repeat again, this game is made to have fun killing other realms enemy, for realm pride, defend our ppl and YES for rps.. these are the main goals, not go alone on a green lawn doing some emotes to your happy friendlyenemy and maybe kill the "unknown enemy" just because he do what he's supposed to do (kill his enemy <<<)

It's clear that all players can do what they want (like dont add a fight, kill first one enemy instead of another and then the other survived [THING that sometime never happen..]), but as you dont want to add because of your moral, other could add because they had another moral. That's it

And just for say, not all 1v1 are "fair" as u may think, a rr4 vs a rr10 it's rp farming for the rr10 (at same skill level) so the problem to "get ganked" will still the same for new players.
In this case, if new players or lowranks want have fun/rps to get better, have to increase their numbers to fight against the strong enemies around, also called (lot of time wrongly) zerg.

So, if you die alone, search for more, it's a group game not a fixed 1v1.

And for example if your group dont have enough supporters, well wait 30 mins inside teleport keep spamming lfg, or make a stealther or quit, because there arent enough players online to pug all the times. Sadly.
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Postby miggy » Jun 17, 2012 07:23

OK for one i would like to say Sorry to anyone who wasted their time on this thread...

Im a casual player and just got really frustrated and made this post in reply.

After reading some of Zarkers post on improving game play for casual players and the responses from most I suppose i will just have to realize that most of you elite people just don't care about guys like me.

I got on and didn't have much time to play ,got owned up the whole time i was on, that doesn't necessarily make me want to play more. . .

I wanted to inform the community that when you don't care for others they lose faith in the game :(

Difference is for me is that i've been playing DAOC since i was 7 (currently 15) so don't think i can stop coming back even if it's after a long break or a couple days i'll be coming back to check up :wink:

But the same can't be said for new players.
some of the new idea's i hear from blue with the porting system sound nice maybe then i can get really into this game again :)


ONCE AGAIN I AM SORRY FOR THIS THREAD DISREGARD/IGNORE IT, DON'T LIKE TO LOOK BAD NORMALLY A VERY CHILL GUY SO BYE BYE ALL
Battle Druids quite possibly the best class EVER, they need to be fixed on uthgard!!!!

Battle Druid video's:
Beasty 1 (crappy res) 13:32 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFfoyI8Bb3M
Beasty 2 (watch all video's from here down in 720p) 24:20 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCafcu0-1Ts
Beasty 3 19:10 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA316ozHMpA
Beasty 4 23:53 mins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB1oz4vRhk0
Valewalker video:
Thidranki ram-mobile adventure 12:21 mins : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfr-G8gUHJc
Epic uthgard siege battle 34 mins : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1ImXiwwcM

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Postby Badtzmaru » Jun 17, 2012 13:38

Rvr is not going around fragging enemies, rvr is bringing up your own realm to the maximum possible power and, once done, trying to keep it there as long as possible.
If missing even only one of the six relics, do yo start organizing a relic raid when you log on? If you own at least one relic, do you organize guarding duties and stay logged with another 20/30 realm mates at RK doing nothing, just to be sure that your relics are safe?
THAT would be doing rvr because that would mean maximizing the possibilities of succes for your own realm and, if you are not playing like that, you are not doing rvr but simply logging in in a fantasy game with nice toons, spells, and combat styles, to have some fun.
Oh well, there's nothing bad about not constantly pursuing the goal that game creators designed for their game, because after all, the real final game designers are players themselves, that (when not idiots) can choice what metagame their prefer.
Usually the preferred metagame on daoc uthgard IS NOT about doing rvr, but doing skirmishes with enemies and trying to win these, trying to show and use a little bit of personal skills for winning those fights.
Yes, some people posses a distorted (imho) concept of fun, because how can be fun, instakilling 8 vs 1 a single enemy (another person that was looking for some fun), it's still something i'm not able to figure out.
I believe that (as it's physiological for such a kind of environment) that a small part of the community is made by RL frustraded people that look for a sort of existential revenge inside the game. But i'm 99% sure that what they get from playing daoc is definetly not any fun.

And as a final note for those who, living h24 inside the server, are missing the concept of passing time, the server now is so much underpopulated that AMG is the only rendezvous place where soloers can expect to find an enemy. Months ago it was possible to go round the realms and meet soloers, not nowadays.
So, i can understand that seeing soloers at amg going round while you are making a 8 vs 8 inc might be annoyng, but if you don't want to become a small group of kings in a deserted server, you better turn your brain and your conscience on, to shift to a different game approach, for preserving a bit the whole community :wink:
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Postby Galandriel2 » Jun 17, 2012 19:02

this is a very interesting discussion
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Postby knutii » Jun 18, 2012 01:43

relax in that game, but capture videos ..... this is a contradiction
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Postby Caemma » Jun 18, 2012 03:17

flipgeppiflop wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvf-lyAF0o

Ahahahahahaah, made my day :D
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Postby toaky » Jun 18, 2012 06:16

maybe they also play by the 'do unto others' rule, maybe they want to get zerged back
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