Oswaldo wrote:so mr magico if people want to 8 v 8 they could just go live?

Who are you to say what people should do on uth?

ps funny essedum is banned hahaha

well im someone who plays everywhere, and on live u can do all the 1vs1 without any adds in laby or do fine 8vs8 without adds.
i dont say that people change playstyles, just change their flame.

lol

The thing is that it's just sad to win or loose a nice fight just because some people think that they need to add. And in the heat of the action Im always one of those starting to complain about or even flaming whoever added. As Ori already said, most of us know that its wrong that we want to tell other ppl how to rvr. But especially in such situations I get overwhelmed by my anger then as well.

Its not even about adding in general. As I aways said I rather prefer 2 bad grps running together to face that evil high rr grp, then just feeding them. It makes rvr more fun for both sides, as challenges are given. But if it's like two equally matched grps (or solo players) facing each other it's soo sad to get the fight ruined by adding grps/solos/duos/whatever.

Everyone can do what they want, thats the purpose of RvR. But like those people won't accept our way of rvr they shouldnt expect us to accept theirs.

Make Uthgard to a PvP server and there would be another way than a verbal confrontation to deal with people that disrespect someones gameplay =)

Personally i got added and ganked and zerged a hell lots of time cause i do any kind of RvR. Except some verbal "incidents" i usually try to communicate my problem on a respectful manner or simply have the patients that people start to respect the way i play or simply ignore people or happenings that just ruined my fight.
On my Paladin Caroli i experience that a very lot of people that are well known for being adders or zergers or whatever you wanna call them, let me have my fights and let me be around without ganking me. Ofcourse theres some low RR guilds like Drachengarde that have good reason to kill all they can see cause they need the RP's and they have alot of realmpride aswell, even though they wouldnt need to do this cause everyone knows they are untouchable when it comes to 8v8.
But those people i really no longer care about. It's not something you can change with getting angry or verbal attacks. All you can hope for is the Staff making the RvR zones more attractive to support proper RvR for every person, no matter what playstyle he prefers. But as this would mean a turn of 180° in the staff''s thinking that u rather try to control yourself and realize that verbal attacks doesnt make it better, but only worse. On the other side people should also show a little more respect for how people want to play their game.

Bloodwyne wrote:Ofcourse theres some low RR guilds like Drachengarde that have good reason to kill all they can see cause they need the RP's and they have alot of realmpride aswell.

lol laughed hard at that :D:D

Xedie wrote:Everyone can do what they want, thats the purpose of RvR. But like those people won't accept our way of rvr they shouldnt expect us to accept theirs.

i wonder how you will deal that... add their fights?

Yesterday we were roaming for like 20 minuts without inc and this was annoying...when we inced draghi del nord we got added so we disengaged and turned back to mmg...then we inced italicvs and the gorup that added us before added us again...that was really annoying...Roaming for 30 minuts and get added 2 times in a row and seriously Tuf didn't insult noboody!!!

Heho,

Well, I cared a lot of zerging and adding some how. That is typical for uthgard because some years ago you only had 3 groups in rvr so you take care that they don't log.

Now Uthgard change a little bit in some ways and i think it is time to see emain just as zerg zone. Because it is and there are many reason why that is good for uthgard.
Normal player don't have many fun at uthgard in rvr if they only do 8vs8. There so many high RR gank groups outside that they won't have many good fights.

Ok, I don't like when I get zerged all the time, but maybe sometimes it will change that uthgard will have enough player in rvr and zones to have for everyone the rvr which they want, but that will i think only happen when enough player get a change to rvr.

Greetz Luydor

who deleted the last post??
it only shows perfectly how people claim that rvr is THEIR zone and belongs only to them?

Yeah, let's turn the server in a permanent zerg event where wins the most populated realm. That will be REALLY funny!

P.S. I deleted my own post, because it was OT.

Mh my 2 cents to that:

(I hope he is not mad that I will type that but) Woody once said his dream OF was a 100% zerg in Emain all the time, 8vs8 in another Region (I would prefer Odins tbh) and Smallgrp/Solozone in the other region. (Well I'm sure he said Emain = zerg, about the others I'm not sure ).

And that's pretty much the one and only solution, period^^

It's not forced playstyle it's respecting the others playstyle.
If you like to add, make rp, think red=dead etc you can go EMain!
If you like 8vs8 go Odins!
If you like fair 1on1s go HW!

The only things that doesn't work with that are:

1.) This topic: OMG add QQ FLame bla instead of moving to another zone.
2.) To hard rules on RvR-Infos (Just allow saying things like "8vs8 now in Odins" or "Solo action in HW NOW" DOesn't hurt nobody)
3.) This is the point where this "solution" is doomed and will never come: Respect of the playerbase. Even if your playstyle is disrespectful: Go to Emain and add all you can, but stay away from Solos to farm them. I guess you all can see that this will be impossible. Ifg you tell the Black Adder Stealthgrp to play their playstyle then they will come to HW and zerg the solos down.

All in all I think that it would be perfect to just specialise RvR for every player.

TL;DR: In my opinion disrespect from player to other players Playstyle (This counts for 8vs8 elitists TOO!!) is the only problem on Uthgard that makes RvR lame. No changes, no improvements, nothing. RvR is what players make out of it and here on Uthgard it's just a big mess

So fo this server: Do what you freakin want!

Galandriel2 wrote:

Xedie wrote:Everyone can do what they want, thats the purpose of RvR. But like those people won't accept our way of rvr they shouldnt expect us to accept theirs.

i wonder how you will deal that... add their fights?

Well its always fun pulling out and leaving them to die and break the CC they cast on the enemies. Very appriciated from the adding group I must say!

@Final

It's not forced playstyle it's respecting the others playstyle.
If you like to add, make rp, think red=dead etc you can go EMain!
If you like 8vs8 go Odins!
If you like fair 1on1s go HW!

If 8v8 goes odins, theres nothing left to zerg in emain. So the zerg comes to wherever the 8v8 groups would be, since it would most likley mean most players active in the zone.

Good point.

I think that the 8vs8 grps are splittet in "fair" grps (Rare, Requiem) and grps who play another playstyle (Pretty much all other guilds ). Some grps say "We don't add that grp but add another" SHOULD stay in EMain then, but WOULD go to Odins. Somehow many guys here are afraid of zerging. That leads to the problem you stated.

I guess the playerbase is just to small for my Wish-RvR^^

This thread has been posted for every daoc server a million times over. People that will add will add. People that want strict X vx X will whine, and then find excuses to jam or add on other fights because soandso is KOS (kill on sight). and then they get hit for revenge some other time.

The main thing is, you cant tell someone else how to play. you just have to deal with it.

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Personally, I have fun with it. gotta do something to fill the time in between fights. trolling is a good way to keep busy.

1) I like to see people get all butthurt over adding an rediculously uneven fight to begin with (either uneven numbers, uneven classes, greatly uneven RR, or guild vs pug). or even just adding an even fight just to troll people.

2) For maximum effectiveness, after jamming a 1v1 or rolling a soloer with a fg. /bow. they Looooooove that. nothing like using the not so secret handshake to rub it in their face. or praise yourself in broad chat about how you won the fight solo.

3) Amuse yourself with the leetists raging at you for 20 minutes. just dont say anythign ban worthy. let them do most of the talking.

4) watch when they jam your actually even 1v1 later on. and they use "revenge" as an excuse.

5) resume the argument in broad chat.

And that'S true!

That's how EMain SHOULD be. I "respect" that behaviour (I accept it more ) like you should accept another playstyle.

But as I accept that playstyle in Emain, you should accept the sologameplay in Odins/HW.
You play like you want, but I want to play like I want to. And if you take that from a player he gets frustrated and leaves. Tataaaaa: Uthgards "RvR problem" solved ;P

Makes me lol everytime I see a huge text to show us unknowing ppl the real problems. I need one sentence! Social differences!
Deal with it or die ;P