Milakunis will no longer be respecting fights. Red = Dead

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Postby majky666 » Jul 31, 2011 16:10

There is absolutely no excuse for that GM. Eleras,do you have God complex? Are you poor guy who is beaten by his wife and need heal his ego? Shame on you!!! Try use your brain next time,plz
edit: @Milakunis: you look like honorable and fair man, i stand behind you and plz keep your playstyle.
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Postby Nymeros » Jul 31, 2011 16:39

This server is going to hell.

First the totally incomprehensible "RP farm" ban, then the "RvR info" ban which goes totally against what the staff said before, now this. What's next? Bans for voicing opinions on the forums?

Blue, please take a look at what your server is being turned into and take a more active approach towards this. There is much more to a successful freeshard then the code which makes it run.

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Postby Runental » Jul 31, 2011 17:11

Milakunis,
play like you've always played.. I will do the same like you.
Should the day come when I get a ban for someone that I attack or not attack, I know that my time has expired on Uthgard.

This policy is definitely directed against all the few ppl. who still have respect for anyone who is behind the PC.

@Staff: i was always fine with you all but,

think about exactly whether you really want this.
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Postby Mauriac » Jul 31, 2011 17:22

/agree with rune

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Postby Llithium » Jul 31, 2011 17:23

Signed.

I haven't and I never will start disrespecting my enemies. This server has anyway a very low RvR population and for the few good fights it is worth sticking to a fair gameplay. If the GMs want us to drop the last challenge and respect that is left, then I won't even drop my view on the game but take the consequence for myself and leave, because this is simply not worth it.
DAoC wasn't designed for just zerg, farm and add. The real challenge are fair fights, where you can proof your skills. Nothing else attracts me, since farming can be performed against mobs as well, I don't need to go Emain and wait a fight to farm someone weaker/damaged down and I don't need to fight with a bunch of people against a fewer number.
So if Uthgard policy is directed to support just crowded farm/add/zerg, then it will be a soon leaving here for me as well.
Sad to see how far it has come, instead of spending some time to fix bugs, implement new stuff or think about some stuff to raise the fun in RvR to attract more people the GMs waste their time to ban as many people as possible and kill the last fair and respectful behaviour...
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Postby Breeze » Jul 31, 2011 17:36

Wow, this is sad..

Much respect to the poster..

GM's with god complexes deciding how we should play this game is just sickening..

Respectful players and behavior as described above is EXACTLY what Uthgard needs..

We don't need roleplayer GM's forcing people to run around screaming "FOR CAMELOT" and zerg everyone without respect..

While I agree arranged duels might not be healthy for the server, this is clearly not what happened here, Eleras you should have known better..
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Postby Trishin » Jul 31, 2011 17:55

Okay everyone, please take a deep breath and calm yourself. This is not the end of the world and this will be no means change much if anything at all. Have you all seen 1000 RvR bans from Eleras or any other GM?

No. So please calm yourself.

Eleras statement might seem harsh and wrong but I can assure you that you are over analyzing his statement.

And please remember we DO already control how you play by our rules:

§3.8 Logging in two accounts - buffbotting
Logging in two ore more accounts simultaneously is always forbidden. There are no exceptions. This explicitly includes typical buffbots and all kind of dual logins like crafters and mule characters. Any violation against this rule will be punished. The usage of a buffbot will result (besides the punishment for all accounts of the player) in a permanent ban for the buffbot. If a staffmember suspects a player of dual logging, the suspected person(s) have to obey his orders (buffbot detection tests). If a player ignores this, logs out, or out of sudden goes linkdead with one or both characters, it will be considered as an illegal dual login. There are no exceptions.


You might say this is something different. But in reality it is JUST the same. We do force certain behavior and yes some of these behaviors is not behavior that was originally on live. This is a freeshard and we have custom rules. Remember it.

ps. I am aware that I did an RvR ban not long ago, but that was for a duel zone setup at amg. That is something we can't and never will allow even if it supposedly is the front figure for fair play and respect.

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Postby skdante » Jul 31, 2011 18:19

but this is wrong trishin just think about the 7 albs thats loged and roaming emain zerk the 2 mids thats there. not prime time = log out for mids = dead emain . we go play something else...
you claimed rp farming ... omg other wrong suggestion cause if it was we would zerc mids and take rps easy.
anyway respect for an enemy is something that can not be dictated and if it means ban so be it.
And most important there wasn't any rez just some guys that didn't wanted to add and ruin a good fight ... you must try to separate this from dueling . and give some ppl the freedom to chose who the fight. and when .You ban ppl for all the wrong reasons ... and pls think about that many off your fanatic players logs solo and have fun only by fair fights. i understand 3 realm not killing both enemies is a cooperation but not zerking a solo is not rp farming its simple a matter or respect for the person that plays in the other side . Anyway you have your politics and we have our opinion but when you ll keep baning for all the wrong reasons You ll kill the server .
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Postby Razzer » Jul 31, 2011 18:21

Playing without buffbots and forcing people to play like they DON'T want is really something different.
(Non-existing) Buffbot is a "feature" but the will not to add a fair fight is an attitude.
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Postby Jonah » Jul 31, 2011 18:23

Trishin wrote:
You might say this is something different. But in reality it is JUST the same. We do force certain behavior and yes some of these behaviors is not behavior that was originally on live. This is a freeshard and we have custom rules. Remember it.

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Like comparing apples and pears. Two totally different things where one has a written rule that u cant misunderstand wheres the other is a very sad and wrongly interpretation of a very diffuse rule from a GM with god-complex.

The day GM´s start to force ppl how to play is the end of Uthgard and the end of an era. Looks like this is it!

I cant see anything then a big apology from the staff for its behavior and a kick of that GM.

Yes this is a freeshard with other rules then Live but it suppose to be as live like as possible even the rules otherwise its just like another irc channel with power horny cs kiddies dictating. No point to play on a server with that maturity level.

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Postby Runental » Jul 31, 2011 18:28

The enemy of my enemy is my friend btw :) so nothing wrong with kill the reaver and let healer alive Mila :)
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Postby Sonnenschein » Jul 31, 2011 18:55

We don't need roleplayer GM's forcing people to run around screaming "FOR CAMELOT" and zerg everyone without respect..

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Postby Trishin » Jul 31, 2011 19:02

Razzer wrote:Playing without buffbots and forcing people to play like they DON'T want is really something different.
(Non-existing) Buffbot is a "feature" but the will not to add a fair fight is an attitude.


Exactly how is that different? Some players want to play with buffbots? So exactly how is that rule not forcing people to play like they don't want?

Like comparing apples and pears. Two totally different things where one has a written rule that u cant misunderstand wheres the other is a very sad and wrongly interpretation of a very diffuse rule from a GM with god-complex.

1. You would be AMAZED at how many times I get the "Oh I thought it was only buffbots that was not allowed" when confronting people with their dual loggin.

2. It IS a written rule that coop between realms is not allowed. However unintended coop like 3-way battles are is okay - If that was the case here I don't know. Only Eleras knows that and I will not be the judge of that as I was not there. But yes, wrong interpretations does happen sometimes. We are aware of this and we try the best we can to avoid them.

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Postby Galandriel2 » Jul 31, 2011 19:05

whats the big problem with that decision?

often enough xrealmer friends support each others during they use teamspeak

how should a gamemaster objectively evaluate such a situation?

i had my own little problems with eleras in the past, but he treated me fair
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Postby Jonah » Jul 31, 2011 19:15

Trishin wrote:
2. It IS a written rule that coop between realms is not allowed. However unintended coop like 3-way battles are is okay - If that was the case here I don't know. Only Eleras knows that and I will not be the judge of that as I was not there. But yes, wrong interpretations does happen sometimes. We are aware of this and we try the best we can to avoid them.


This is a 3 realm game. Sometimes u have to "coop" with another realm to have a chance against another, example when alb has a huge zerg going on and only way for hibs and mids to stay alive is to fight albs only. This is not planned in anyway before but just pure mechanics to stay alive and getting some kills. THIS is the way Mythic made the game and forbidding it is just crap. You cant dictate behavior in a 3 realm war, its just insane and destroys the spirit of the game.

2nd this GM proves that hes unworthy and not suitable to be a GM even if the players broke the rules. Just look at his language in the screen. Hes talking like a bloody king or something. I seen 10 year old cs kiddies with more respect then this dude.

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