Bonjovi wrote:I am confused, first staff explained the change by a way to have more PVE raids, now it is to prevent conversion bp->plat.

Nobody said its to prevent conversion from BP=>plat.

Could you give us a reason for nerfing it? Afaik nobody complained about any respec stone issues.

Another great nerf for the casual/solo community that are forced to use pots/charges

First it was horse stealth nerf

Second it was removal of solo kill enemies task

Now third this nerf to buy respecs wich was needed to cover barrel and recharge cost and the oppurtunity to respec each rr ding.

GM´s what will be next? A huge yellow arrow hanging above you if u are solo/casual that will enable the leet players/group to see u on cliping range and /map even in stealth so they can farm u even easier.

Realise u scaring ppl away with this constant nerfing and i bet u dont even realise it.

What is live like on this change? This change pushes the server away from live, not into 2003.
Make it live like, if there are no merchants on live - delete them. If there are merchants on live with our current setting give us live like prices.
Its redicolous to talk about live like experience and make this big custom change.

I just really don't see the point of the change at all, sure it wont really break anything, it will just make solo players funding their buffs/charges for RvR a much bigger pain in the ass..
As it is now I can just barely keep my plat count neutral with the income from BPs, with the change it will force me to go farm pygmy goblins for a few hours every now and then..
It will be a pain in the ass not only for me, but for the people trying to xp there aswell..

Plain and simple I just don't get the logic behind the decision..

Breeze wrote:
Plain and simply I just don't get the logic behind the decision..

Is there any logic to gm´s decisions at all when it comes to casual/solo play??

The hard part here is not the buff and barrel cost, those few hours farming isnt much of a deal, the problem is when u really need to respec, like when u rr ding or want to try something else.

U will need 15000 bp´s to respec both ra and skills, wich often is the case. U get like 30-35 bps each solo kill? Thats 428-500 solo kills to respec, lets say 450 in average
Remember u cant trade bp´s around chars either.

Join a DR or legion raid? The cost of a respec stone now is around 15-20 dkp´s. With this new changes it will be at least twice as much. So 3-4 DR´s for 1!!!!!!! respec stone. Thats minimum a works day of time to respec ONE char?

GM´s dont u see a problem here??? I did the math for u, now tell me why this is a good change!!!!

KaiserReto wrote:What is live like on this change? This change pushes the server away from live, not into 2003.
Make it live like, if there are no merchants on live - delete them. If there are merchants on live with our current setting give us live like prices.
Its redicolous to talk about live like experience and make this big custom change.

What is live like to be able to buy respec stones with BP? You mean a custom change on a custom change?

It seems that the loudest QQ's are from the ones who took the respec stones as BP=>money conversion. Not for respec itself.

I doubt respecs will cost more after the change. Also I doubt that Respec stones will cause significant higher DKP worth. Legion and Dragons got their droprate ramped up. One Legion raid and you can get up to 20 ra/full stones. Come down. Legion is not unkillable and there will be a constant stream of respecs incoming.

Blue can u please give us a reason for the change?

Blue wrote:Legion and Dragons got their droprate ramped up. One Legion raid and you can get up to 20 ra/full stones. Come down. Legion is not unkillable and there will be a constant stream of respecs incoming.

Yeah this is the way to improve RvR!

To make one point clear, Respec Stones on BP merchants were at no point in time intended to be traded against money to other players! Otherwise I can't explain why solo players should have been hit by that change.

who said that every change done by the GMs is intended to make everything as easy as possible for the players?

How about along with this change making it so the RvR bosses could also drop some respec stones? That would actually encourage people in RvR to hit up the froniters bosses like Evern, Green Knight, and Glacier Giant. Also, I want to point out that in my thread under the English general forum's I said that I dont have a problem with raising the cost of respec stones on bp's, I just feel that the rate of increase was a bit of overkill. A person who RvR's on a regular basis should be able to afford respec stones for themselves at a decent rate. It takes A LONG time to farm up 7k bp's. Make its 2k for single line and 4k for full/RA respec. Your still getting what you desired with this change and people who RvR will still be able to afford to get respec stones TO USE at a decent rate if they dont want to go on a raid. The other solution I see for this would be putting BP's in with gaurd kill tasks. That would increase the bp totals for people who dont do alot of the normal RvR but do alot of gaurd tasks instead. These are just a couple things I could see to make this a little better situation for the RvR player.

Blue wrote: Otherwise I can't explain why solo players should have been hit by that change.

Ok i explain it for u then!!!

Solo players need alot of cash to running 4+ buffs/charges on a rediciolus low timer. With out these buffs they will have hard to compete in rvr. As it was before change u could barely make even with the extra income from stones.

As i said the cash isnt the biggest problem,its that i can only respec my char about once every 500 solo kills .
THis sucks as its fun to try different styles to play on ur char and can get some extra points loose when u RR ding.

Many solo players dont have time to pve or raid and stuff, hey many dont even have a character thats good in pve raids and dont have a chanse to get a spot for one (excepts ffa raids wich sucks as I explained above).

And believe me, respecs will go up in price after this, no matter how many stones legion drops.

7500 BP´s, lol why not set it 100k Bp´s or just remove it when something turns up to be "not as intended"

Go on a Legion/Dragon raid if you need money that bad. We had to roll twice yesterday because Legion dropped so many so I don't see how it'll be a problem getting one to sell.