Yol wrote:Everyone knows that Alb got much much more utility with the minstrel-stealther.

Mythic noticed that too and gave the Hibs the vampyre and the mids the walkyre (with cone-ae for destealth)

But we are on uthgard... and we have to live with this old patch-stands.

I really dont like the catacomb-classes. But without them albs are better in stealther-duos or stealthergroups than the other realms. Thats a fact.

You have really a very wired way to argue. Sure they made this classes to make stealth wars even, you got the point

The only imbalance is melodies on a stealther class.

Ronian wrote:The only imbalance is melodies on a stealther class.

and will be fixed soon

Uthgard has tons of balance issues but none of them are stealth VS stealth related.

Disdain wrote:Uthgard has tons of balance issues but none of them are stealth VS stealth related.

If you would play a Midgard-stealther you would say different things.

And Hibernia got the benefit that the ranger is a strong stealther class... witch they will lose with old-ras.

And balance between stealth-classes must be highest priority on uthgard because the stealthers are the most played charakters on this server.

If Albion dominate the stealther-wars on uthgard (and with old-ras they will) many mids and hibs will quit or reroll an alb-stealther.

I think Mids and Hibs dont like it then wenn they get zerged every day by massive alb-stealther-zergs. BA today is a joke compared with what will happen when Mid&Hib-Stealthers will reroll an alb-stealther! So then will be 3 times so many alb-stealthers like today. Most Hibs even wouldent get to emain any more

Thalien wrote:

Ronian wrote:The only imbalance is melodies on a stealther class.

and will be fixed soon

??? Enlight me pls: What will be changed?

Yol wrote:

Thalien wrote:

Ronian wrote:The only imbalance is melodies on a stealther class.

and will be fixed soon

??? Enlight me pls: What will be changed?

old RAs :p

Stupid topic, and old ras will bring more imbalance to stealth.

vangonaj wrote:Stupid topic, and old ras will bring more imbalance to stealth.

Yes and no.

Atm, there is one big imbalance which is AM. Basically, a mid/hib stealther group is not suited to fight against an alb stealther group with AM. Nothing can beat 4000 HPs over 30 seconds combined to Alb stealther's disrupting power (guarding + stuns/mezes)

Other imbalances exists, but this one alone completely destroys stealther balance. If NF RAs had been maintained, I would have advised giving AM to paladins instead (and maybe giving mincers something -not AoG- to even it out).

OF stealth war has many imbalances, some of which are way more annoying than some NF stealther imbalances, but nothing that is as annoying as the AM imbalance.

Daoc is not balanced for stealther war, not on live, not on uth.
Regards

pweet wrote:Daoc is not balanced for stealther war, not on live, not on uth.
Regards

Daoc is perfectly balanced for stealther wars 1on1 as stealth wars SUPPOSE to be played. Only on this stupid server theres stealth zergs. On live 90% of the stealthers was solo. Sure there was some chockpoints with lots of stealthers but most was ungrouped and didnt add. Some few low rr duos to but thats just fun challenge for the higher rr´s.
AM as a RA was only picked by group mincers.
Those were the times!!!
Only stealther fun here is the odd fun fights u get in DF once in a while.

Old RA´s will totally imbalance the server as albion will get so strong, both group wise and stealther. My guess is that 50% of the population will be on alb 1 month after the patch. Cleric, Cleric, Mincer, Theurg, Sorc, Pala, Merc, Merc with 2XBoF and SoS will be a tough cookie to bite on.

Jonah wrote: On live 90% of the stealthers was solo.

Sure.

Yep, you never were atacked by FGs of stealthers with BG there, as soon as you reached a MG in Emain/a much traveled Bridge in NF, must have been me having a bad trip...or not?

On german live servers there have been much much stealther-groups!
And there also have been Stealther Guilds too like BA.

The difference to here is: With phaseshift and c4 you had a little chance to escape to the next tower/keep there.

Dont missunderstand me pls: I really dont like TOA. But for stealthers, especially for bow-users, there have been more abilities to survive a fight then here on uthgard.

And on live the hunter was a really good stealther-char. Here on uthgard its much too weak compared with the scout or ranger.

And yes: A stealther with insta-stun, single and ae-mez, sos , am and ora/red pet is much, *to* much overpowered. And with old-ras with purge-cooldown of 30 minutes...i think i dont have to say more ...

Jonah wrote:

pweet wrote:Old RA´s will totally imbalance the server as albion will get so strong, both group wise and stealther. My guess is that 50% of the population will be on alb 1 month after the patch. Cleric, Cleric, Mincer, Theurg, Sorc, Pala, Merc, Merc with 2XBoF and SoS will be a tough cookie to bite on.

Hi I am mage, what is BoF ?