Seyha wrote:

Patch Notes 1.62 wrote:- The Ice Storm -> Tempest -> Supernova chain has been modified for Blademasters only (i.e. Rangers and Nightshades are not affected by this). The damage for each has been increased, and Ice Storm now has a short stun component.

- Increased bleed damage for Celtic Dual combat styles Tempest and Twin Star. This is a Blademaster ONLY change - other classes that receive Celtic Dual will not see increased bleed effects on these styles.

What's the problem? You have the most broken stealther class on Uthgard. You have the patch notes to fix it. So fix it.

These changes were never made and I had a nightshade on live and it had these effects on live.

@topic:
Ranger is a strong class there are other strong classes like mercenary, bd, sm, sb, reaver and friar.

Last time I got hit for 297 damage by a slash highlander armsman but all people do is complain about damage like that. Additionally

The only passive RA which is really op is viper3. Luri Ranger without str/con buff has 1210 hitpoints, not everyone is a fotm melee shar Ranger like Stressed ( ). Now in many fights I get at least 1 ticks if the player redots before he dies.

I wish Natan would play again because then all infs would go back to their mainchars. The best infiltrator so far on this server and he would show you how viper3 is op and rangers are not.

Yeah 297 damage is A LOT. I don't know why don't they nerf armsmen already.

Tobletwo wrote:Yeah 297 damage is A LOT. I don't know why don't they nerf armsmen already.

It is a lot on pd5 and slash resistant armor.

Seyha wrote:

Patch Notes 1.62 wrote:- Increased bleed damage for Celtic Dual combat styles Tempest and Twin Star. This is a Blademaster ONLY change - other classes that receive Celtic Dual will not see increased bleed effects on these styles.

What's the problem? You have the most broken stealther class on Uthgard. You have the patch notes to fix it. So fix it.

Indeed. The Style chain with Twin star is still a after-parry only chain and should be an after-evade chain for ranger and nightshade. Atm it can only be used by BM.

Ronian wrote:

Tobletwo wrote:Yeah 297 damage is A LOT. I don't know why don't they nerf armsmen already.

It is a lot on pd5 and slash resistant armor.

I wonder how much you'd cry if their damage was livelike, and no 297 damage every 5 seconds isn't a lot, not even against pd5 and resistant armor.

Nerf armsmen, boost rangers! Hell yeah they're so weak omg.

Btw not long ago I leveled a char in hib and everywhere I went I saw rangers more than all other classes combined. It's gonna be interesting to see what uthgard looks like in a month (even though rangers are a large majority of the rvr population already, but we all know it's because they're so weak and everyone likes a challenge right ? )

Tobletwo wrote:

Ronian wrote:

Tobletwo wrote:Yeah 297 damage is A LOT. I don't know why don't they nerf armsmen already.

It is a lot on pd5 and slash resistant armor.

I wonder how much you'd cry if their damage was livelike, and no 297 damage every 5 seconds isn't a lot, not even against pd5 and resistant armor.

Nerf armsmen, boost rangers! Hell yeah they're so weak omg.

Thanks I had a hero on Live but never a armsman. Arms has slower weapons and better growthrates but I did less around max 250 on arms and paladin fully buffed and so this damage looks ok for me. Lasricata does up to 350 to me with crush lw.

How can you say you never had an armsman then say you never did more than 250 damage on arms and paladin, in the same sentence ? :p

I think he meant that his hero never did more than that on arms/palas

nixian wrote:I think he meant that his hero never did more than that on arms/palas

Yes, and I mean sced players in group RvR (in ol days there were many armsman around). Sometimes even tankgroups without any mages except sorc, thanks to 2-3 times old BOF. And I mean the damage without BOF, because with it it would be 50 to 90 damage or something like that.

There are too many rangers? Screen made yesterday and no, there werent that many rangers like other realm stealthers:


Seems like these new rangers only make RvR in DF.

Yeah spear damage isn't too great against paladins and armsmen. I can hit for up to 300 on uthgard with a celt.

Tobletwo wrote:Yeah spear damage isn't too great against paladins and armsmen. I can hit for up to 300 on uthgard with a celt.

You mean the overall max damage right?

Ronian wrote:These changes were never made and I had a nightshade on live and it had these effects on live.

So what? This isn't Live. The problem is on Uthgard. If Mythic implemented the side-stun anyway for Rangers and NS then it was probably an over-sight on their part. This is Mythic we're talking about.

I wish Natan would play again because then all infs would go back to their mainchars. The best infiltrator so far on this server and he would show you how viper3 is op and rangers are not.

You wish a redot spamming Viper 3 Inf still played so he could show us all that redot spamming poison is OP?

Is the grass green in Emain?

Seyha wrote:

Ronian wrote:These changes were never made and I had a nightshade on live and it had these effects on live.

So what? This isn't Live. The problem is on Uthgard.

I wish Natan would play again because then all infs would go back to their mainchars. The best infiltrator so far on this server and he would show you how viper3 is op and rangers are not.

You wish a redot spamming Viper 3 Inf still played so he could show us all that redot spamming poison is OP?

Is the grass green in Emain?

Most players that cry here are SBs and Infs. I dont see any Reavers or other classes except maybe some Hunters. And I cant understand why these classes have problems with Rangers. Actually I play many casters and non viper3 stealthers are easy and 1 time viper3 is enough to almost kill for example my theurg. As a Ranger you at least need to do something, like most other tanks. Dont tell me purge (3) because I cant afford it in low rr and purge isnt everytime up^^

Ronian wrote:And I cant understand why these classes have problems with Rangers. Actually I play many casters and non viper3 stealthers are easy and 1 time viper3 is enough to almost kill for example my theurg. As a Ranger you at least need to do something, like most other tanks. Dont tell me purge (3) because I cant afford it in low rr and purge isnt everytime up^^

1. You can kite assassins.

2. Assassins don't have camouflage.

3. Assassins can not kill at range.

Artefact wrote:Take care about that the staff know that archery is op

LOL archery is not OP, archery is bugged as hell!!!!
In fact archery has nothing to do with Rangers, 95% of them are full melee.