Garad wrote:You shouldn't Back then, in classic times, Quivna (lurikeen ranger) made some solo movies, where he/she performed very well against assassins.

They should, and they will, unfortunately. Quivna was alwyay buffed to the teeth by a buffbot, and was using assassin poisons, none of which is possible on Uthgard.

Of course rangers will still be the strongest archer class, but archers as a whole would take a huge hit.

Nymeros wrote:

Garad wrote:You shouldn't Back then, in classic times, Quivna (lurikeen ranger) made some solo movies, where he/she performed very well against assassins.

They should, and they will, unfortunately. Quivna was alwyay buffed to the teeth by a buffbot, and was using assassin poisons, none of which is possible on Uthgard.

Of course rangers will still be the strongest archer class, but archers as a whole would take a huge hit.

This is true Quivna was full buffed and in the movies are many fights, where he/she virtually destroys unbuffed people. But as far as I remember, there were also some vids, were Quivna wins against buffed foes using IP and AP.

From someone, who has played a scout in a time, where see hidden (see hidden = MoS at 3000 range against archer stealth for 8 RA points) was introduced without camo and "/who scout" brought up 2-5 of 3000 players, I think that Scouts and Hunters will suffering very much from old RA system, while ranger remains still playable, at least at high realm rank.

Nymeros wrote:They should, and they will, unfortunately. Quivna was alwyay buffed to the teeth by a buffbot, and was using assassin poisons, none of which is possible on Uthgard.

Assassin can't poison other peoples weapons here?

Nope, at least as far as I know.

Yes you can apply poison and give weapons to other players on Uthgard , i reported it but it seems to don't be a bug...
BTW you cannot do it on live

Noir wrote:Yes you can apply poison and give weapons to other players on Uthgard , i reported it but it seems to don't be a bug...
BTW you cannot do it on live

It's not a bug it's intended and you can do it on live.

I thought you couldn't do it on Uthgard, and that the staff said it was a intentional custom change (with which I agree btw).

currently you can, yes

/rolling a ranger

in my opinion, scout is best bow dmg, cause of ( most times ) highest bow specc...


to get good selfbuffs with ranger / hunter, you have to spend much points, wich you need for hgh bowspecc, so with selfbuffs, you might even bow dmg out...


guess scout is 1st
ranger 2nd
and hunter 3rd


in bow dam, depends on their specc

and the truth is ranger makes most bow dmg^^
all do the same

Sumosan wrote:in my opinion, scout is best bow dmg, cause of ( most times ) highest bow specc...


to get good selfbuffs with ranger / hunter, you have to spend much points, wich you need for hgh bowspecc, so with selfbuffs, you might even bow dmg out...

Unfortunatly, this isn't true. There is a difference between 35+15 and 50+15 bow, but the difference is not very high. Overcap bow only slightly increase the cap bow damage. At least, so it was in classic times

With ranger you can spec: 35 Bow, 40 PF, 39 Weapon, 19 CD, 35 Stealth and will outdamage a scout in melee and with bow

did some tests with rr5+ ranger 40 pf, 45 recurve bow:



mp heave recurve 1049 cap dam selfbuffed


rr5+ scout 50 longbow:


mp heavy longbow 1071 cap dam unbuffed

5.7dps bow 1104 cap dam


all you fotm crazy superstar lurikeen ranger loverboys come down to earth;-)



greetz kraehe

My rr5 ranger with 40+15 bow, with a 99% qual 5.5 spd bow has a damage cap of 515 normal shot, and 1030 crit cap. Also keep in mind dmg stat doesnt effect the results of your dmg cap, only vs a target with AF and so on.

Sumosan wrote:did some tests with rr5+ ranger 40 pf, 45 recurve bow:



mp heave recurve 1049 cap dam selfbuffed


rr5+ scout 50 longbow:


mp heavy longbow 1071 cap dam unbuffed

5.7dps bow 1104 cap dam


all you fotm crazy superstar lurikeen ranger loverboys come down to earth;-)



greetz kraehe

50 Bow vs 45 Bow. What a great comparison of cap damage. Cap damage is only influenced by bow speed and skills in bow.