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Postby yukiz » Feb 07, 2010 03:00

SM's pet intercept ability annoys me like hell.
And btw: tell me how long time ao you saw smite cleric for a last time? and haven't you noticed that cleri's instant stun is not stun after all? it's mez (could be broken by damage).

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Postby Neju » Feb 07, 2010 03:02

yukiz wrote:And btw: tell me how long time ao you saw smite cleric for a last time? and haven't you noticed that cleri's instant stun is not stun after all? it's mez (could be broken by damage).


:wall:

He said baseline stun (which means that every cleric has it, and does not need to spec for it)

and nowhere has anyone said that clerics have insta stun

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 03:04

Neju wrote:Theurgist pets aren't shared between realms...

so the whole : MID IS THE ONLY REALM WITH A UNIQUE ABILITY!!!!!!!

doesn't really stand up


Theurg pets can easily be countered.

Can celerity be countered ? I don't see anybody having a 30s 1000 pbaoe 40% haste debuff ;(

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Postby Neju » Feb 07, 2010 03:08

kill the aug healer?
kill the tanks that have celerity?

alternatively reduce the damage that the tanks do:

use haste debuffs (sure not 40%, but better than nothing)?
use debuffs on tanks?
use shears on tanks?

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 03:09

Lol. You're saying that as if the whole mid group is afk.

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Postby Neju » Feb 07, 2010 03:10

and you're saying as if mid can never loose a fight ;)

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 03:11

Doesn't take much not to. Just look at anguish, they're mostly average players with the exception of Karsten who's a really good pac healer yet they dominated with ease running tankspam.

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Postby Neju » Feb 07, 2010 03:18

Toblerone wrote:Doesn't take much not to. Just look at anguish, they're mostly average players with the exception of Karsten who's a really good pac healer yet they dominated with ease running tankspam.


Yeah you are right, it could be nothing to do with the fact that they play with the same people everyday for months so they all play well together... must be that celerity :roll:

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Postby Stormha » Feb 07, 2010 03:39

Toblerone wrote:Doesn't take much not to. Just look at anguish, they're mostly average players with the exception of Karsten who's a really good pac healer yet they dominated with ease running tankspam.


So you mean they defeat every teams only because mids are op?

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 03:49

Being mid certainly helped them, yes.

Neju wrote:
Toblerone wrote:Doesn't take much not to. Just look at anguish, they're mostly average players with the exception of Karsten who's a really good pac healer yet they dominated with ease running tankspam.


Yeah you are right, it could be nothing to do with the fact that they play with the same people everyday for months so they all play well together... must be that celerity :roll:


I'm not saying it's -only- celerity. Midgard would be OP even without it, having celerity while other realms don't is just a slap on the face to hibernia and albion.

I played with them on both midgard and hibernia, and guess what they had a pretty hard time on hibernia and didn't take them long to give up on hibernia completely.

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Postby Musikus » Feb 07, 2010 06:09

oh..they also tryed alb...all gave up befor reaching level 20 (except glelle with his pala).

and that where not the first mids who tryed alb but regret it.
2 guilds from mid at least tryed to compete as albion FG in big RvR. result was that they gave up befor reaching RR4 (there was no thid at this time)

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Postby Corwinn » Feb 07, 2010 06:55

nubrin wrote:
if you ask cleric/healer to /assist stun when they can and they dont even try ,.. they re no good healer/clerics



That made my morning.

Didnt know uth can still make me laugh so hard.

Ur not from Alb are u.
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Postby nubrin » Feb 07, 2010 07:56

Corwinn wrote:
nubrin wrote:
if you ask cleric/healer to /assist stun when they can and they dont even try ,.. they re no good healer/clerics



That made my morning.

Didnt know uth can still make me laugh so hard.

Ur not from Alb are u.


it was a pleasure ! xD

well, bad language ^^
dont make it bad , make it better xD
just told a guy that thought only hibs got cast stun and clerics stun was specline, that all realms got access to baseline 9sec stun ,..

whats so funny about that ?! ^^
i'd love to have your humor,..

and yes i got alb chars, but barely active in any form,..

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Postby Corwinn » Feb 07, 2010 09:15

Well lets start from the start.

"if you ask" - Why would you ask a cleri to stun anything ?


"and they dont even try ,.. they re no good healer/clerics" - That made me laugh alot.

Guess im an epic noob cleri. I wont stun anything, even if asked. (unless im duoing with a caster)
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Postby nubrin » Feb 07, 2010 09:39

Corwinn wrote:Well lets start from the start.

"if you ask" - Why would you ask a cleri to stun anything ?


"and they dont even try ,.. they re no good healer/clerics" - That made me laugh alot.

Guess im an epic noob cleri. I wont stun anything, even if asked. (unless im duoing with a caster)


you re a pretty good cleric ,..
and when i played with my sorc in caster groups long time ago clerics used to stun the targets without stoic and det ,... this is absolutly usual as you know ,..especially on keep def

i explained yukiz , that hibs dont got any advantage through the fact that hib casters have a castable stun (in fgs)

i didnt want to go offtopic and start with stoic/det and slam

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