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Sellock
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Postby Sellock » Jan 15, 2010 13:31

i really dont get why so much people are angry about adders. daoc is about beating the crap out of your enemy realm and not about fair fights.
if you want that play wow arena or guildwars or any other game with a arena setup.

and most people dont care about if it just give 100 rps or 1 rp. you dropping in the dust is what matters, not some stupid points

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Postby Runis » Jan 15, 2010 14:08

OMG So much DRAMA. Drama queens, RvR is not dead, the fall of uthgard is not near, the end is NOT near.

If you dont like uthgard feel free to join a better freeshard , with better zones / better implement / better staff.

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Postby vangonaj » Jan 15, 2010 14:40

Runis wrote:OMG So much DRAMA. Drama queens, RvR is not dead, the fall of uthgard is not near, the end is NOT near.

If you dont like uthgard feel free to join a better freeshard , with better zones / better implement / better staff.


Totaly agree. It´s true, is Uthgard is so bad, sux... why you stay here? All are crying about zerg, solo rvr dead, but all still going to emain for be killed by zerg. I think that this people only go there for cry in forums later. Move your ass to hadrians or odins.

And ontopic.
Mate if you think that hourse route is for stealthers only, you should learn that there are more clases without speed, who want play solo and dont have time for run during 10 minutes.

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Postby Seyha » Jan 15, 2010 16:15

Maidrion wrote:
Maidrion wrote:The reason I'd like to stealthers removed is not because of the class but because of the people playing them.


Anyway let's not hijack this thread further. Just wanted to vent my anger about stealthers :p


Cool, I'll remember that the next time I'm having an intense 1v1 stealther fight only to be interrupted/added by an FG of visibles who mezz/stun and DD both of us back to the TK. I hate Jump for this reason. :P

I usually don't add unless I think the fight is unfair (PuG vs Guild Group, duo vs. trio, etc), but I always, always have my fights added by visibles. You can understand then why it is annoying to hear people complain about stealthers adding their fights--it goes both ways.
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Postby Happuch » Jan 15, 2010 17:43

Fact: Uthgard will live as long as the Staff wants to and a single player wants to play here (quite a long long time isn't it?)

Fact: Just another apocalypse post which says what is all bad instead of constructive criticism.

Fact: Stealthers are not bad, as Nixian said: blame the players, not the classes.

Fact: Delete Druids, Clerics and Healers, they can heal, they are imba QQ

Fact: This Forum is ****** me off /delete link /outlog Forumaccount

P u s s y Forumfighters, you s u c k :)

Bye Forum, hello IRC

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Postby silenced » Jan 15, 2010 18:08

Seyha wrote:I usually don't add unless I think the fight is unfair (PuG vs Guild Group, duo vs. trio, etc),


If I remember right, NOT adding is AGAINST the rules. :)

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Postby nixian » Jan 15, 2010 18:35

silenced wrote:
Seyha wrote:I usually don't add unless I think the fight is unfair (PuG vs Guild Group, duo vs. trio, etc),


If I remember right, NOT adding is AGAINST the rules. :)


you think of this rule:

You may not cooperate with other realms in RvR. The realms are meant to have war. However if it is indispensable to fight each others in an equal manner (3 players of different realms fighting each other), there is no problem. As soon as groups of different realms organize their RvR together, it becomes a rule violation.

which basicly says:

You may not arrange cooperation across realms (like a hib PM a mid and say: hey lets attack alb keep tonight and not kill each other)

however not jumping a fight is not the same as organizing rvr with the other realm :)

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Postby Melodexx » Jan 15, 2010 21:12

i hope uthgard never dies
with it daoc dies the best game that ever exist before its patched to a instant mana spam counterstrike wow like game

and there 2 kind of people

1# that flame mimimi u zerged me
2# hahaha omg =) and port to og/hw

with option #1 u killed urself :o

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Postby koruun » Jan 15, 2010 21:36

Sellock wrote:i really dont get why so much people are angry about adders. daoc is about beating the crap out of your enemy realm and not about fair fights.
if you want that play wow arena or guildwars or any other game with a arena setup.

and most people dont care about if it just give 100 rps or 1 rp. you dropping in the dust is what matters, not some stupid points


One problem is, your enemies are going to log soon instead of coming back if you zerg them too much. And the goal of DAoC is not beating your enemies to death, because then you have no one to fight anymore. DAoC is not war, it's a game, and if you play less "zomg kill all the foreigners" and more fair, it will do yourself good by having more enemies actually coming back and therefore more fights for yourself.
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Postby Force » Jan 16, 2010 00:10

We run 8 (GDRW) because we enjoy even numbered fights of a single group against a single group more than giant multiple group fights. Adding into a fight is less fun for us since it makes winning take almost 0 effort.

We don't run over soloers either. That's really all we can do since I can't control how anyone else plays. We do what's most fun for us which leads us to try and find as much 8v8 as possible. That's what the game is about, having fun.

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Postby Ithiggi » Jan 16, 2010 13:08

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ROFLMAO

SO much drama Uthgard won't die any time soon lol

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Postby Xuji » Jan 16, 2010 13:57

fffs why is there so much QQing and flaming going on!


WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE B000000000

jeez, dont be a player hater either (see Bad Boys movie), if you dont like seeing so many enemy stealthers around amg, bring more friends, go df, find a solution to fight, like on mmg or something. Hey at least you are NOT visible to roaming grps while those who wanna play solo and are not stealthers are... So the horse routes were implemented for them.

Maidrion said:
The reason I'd like to stealthers removed is not because of the class but because of the people playing them. 80% of the rps is by leeching off other peoples fight. Few examples. Yesterday I saw an SB and infi /bowing each to duel, while fighting pop pop 2 infis unstealth and sprint to the battle to get their 100rps. Few days earlier we're chasing a fg, some infil unstealths and sprints to keep up with us so he can leech of the fight. -EVERY- fight between amg and atk you are guaranteed atleast 1 or 2 stealthers adding. There might be exceptions but in general they're just utterly lame.



Well talk with ppl you know, i fortunately play cleric so i can aoe/heal/cure disease in excange for intel, help when losing or NOT help when i dont wanna... Its not like they say to them selfs: oooo i wanna f00k those guys by adding! They are in search of action like you and me... And i freaking <3 when we fight 8vs8 while 2-3 stealthers add on their side and yet we win. So fight in a way like there's always someone to add on you...


Melodexx said:
and there 2 kind of people

1# that flame mimimi u zerged me
2# hahaha omg =) and port to og/hw


Yet there's 3# kind of ppl: Who ask themselves and grpmates: why did we lose? What can we do to improve and do some ownage?


There are about 3 solutions when i feel like i freaking hate Uthgard...
Maybe some of them help you out...


1.) i go on a freeshard called eden and make a single day/week char and have some FUN....

2.) i remind myself how was it on Mordred (USA PvP server), where you all QQers and myself would post 23482634 2134134 more QQ threads cuz not only you'll be owned in frontiers but when xping, getting templates done and so on. So it aint that bad as it looks... Hey its freaking better then live, i dont have to waste weeks for arties!

3.) i smack my head in keyboard (j/king) and i continue on playing, and sometimes it results as huge enjoyement and FUN.


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Postby Weia » Jan 16, 2010 19:07

The fall of Uthgard ? No way!!! I'd much rather say, or even better, SING:

DAOC was having trouble
What a sad sad story
Needed different frontiers to restore
It's former glory
Where could that place be ?
To which we could flee ?
We looked around and then we found
The place for you and me

And now it's...

Springtime for Uthgard and RvR
Players are happy and gay!
We're zerging to a faster pace
Everyone joins the realm point race!

Springtime for Uthgard and RvR
Winter for posting and neothy... :P



Sure, to some it seems like bad taste. But it's still great fun. :D

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Postby Xuji » Jan 16, 2010 22:05

Nice song Weia =) =) =) = )

/hug :grin: :grin: :grin:

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Postby Eclipsed » Jan 17, 2010 00:42

Of what ive seen for the past years, everyone likes to blame , those classes they do not play and understand for down fall of the game or game play. Like visables hate stealthers because they can stealth, or a scout blaming a ranger or hunters for being OP because of self buffs or smaller grps vs full grps and so on. The problem is that some like to look at the game at face value. Like i dont get stealth and he does, so his stealth is a + he has over me. But what that player is forgetting is that he has much greaters stats, like more health and damage and defense compared to those who can stealth. Or a scout thinking the other archers self buffs are a plus over him, which he forget he has a shield and a anytime stun of 9sec and extra defenses.

Everyone has what they have for a reason. There is some things that do screw up that logic, like on live with those who have access to buffbotting or anything you do not gain on your own, by specing , and not even including alchemy and charged bonuses. With out all that stuff, we are all equal in are classes own way. Now when i play my ranger, i may hate that my enemy who maybe an assasin has such strong poisons, like stat debuff and a dot, but i remind myself i have self buffs that counter the stat debuff and a damage add to help. Now charges and liquid buffing is another story. But by default its all fair.
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