Kenpatchi maybe you and Nujao were RR5-6, Dunklerlord was already RR9 which makes a huge difference.

Dunkler came later when we all were already 6L at least. First times it was me (Ixtab) and Noxu, and we sure weren't 10L ^^

Llithium, your reply to my post (prior to all the trolling and whatnot) is EXACTLY how I feel about RvR. Couldnt have summed it up better myself. There is NOTHING wrong w/ zerging or any other form of RvR, but when you are running an 8 man full group of visi player and you are killing solo players (stealthers or visi's) then what Llithium said is true. All you are doing is pushing what little bit of action there is out of frontiers. Just last night I had a minstril/reaver/and 2 other albs farming at AMG. They killed me once, then a second time, and on the 3rd time I just quit going back out. Sure enough went back out 1.5 hours later and they were gone. They prolly got bored and logged since they outnumbered the only solo rvr out there and scared it all away. Also, remember, ALL REALMS ZERG, ADD, AND EVERY OTHER NEGATIVE THING YOU HEAR ABOUT.

I have done my fair share of adding and zerging at amg, but now I realise that it is much more fun to keep people coming back. My rule is that if you dont add my fights, I wont add yours. If I am fighting 1 vs 1 against a player I dont want any hib's jumping in to help me. If I die then feel free to kill the guy who killed me, but let that player get his dues first. That way we all get rp's and he's encouraged to come back out again.

when i kill solos i hope they build fg, works often enough. And stealthers deserve no mercy at all.

Now come on Holsten.... I've seen you out there alot and yes, you have rolled me multiple times w/ me solo on my ranger, but for every time you have done that there has been ZERO times that i've went and got a group to come back out. I know thats what the people doing this want and that is exactly why I dont do it.

As far as the stealthers deserves no mercy comment, well, if you have seen me play at all in the last month or 2 you would know that I only add into fights to even the odds. The other night was 4 mids killing 2 of my guildies at amg, so I added in and when it became 2 on 2 I ran away and didnt add anymore even tho the mids killed my 2 guildies. I dont see how that means I should be killed 2-8 vs 1. If a stealther notoriously add's in your fights then sure, kill em, but for us stealthers that dont interfere in your preferred gameplay style why would you ruin ours?

pweet would you be so kind and tell me your ig name? I would like to know who actually writes here and not only Forum anonymity

and stop random zerg vs 8v8 flame it's not quite the topic discuss it somewhere else

actually i agree with holsten we usually tend to kill all stealthers too, every stealther tends to add when they can and dont run risk to get rolled, so its just the way we response to this rudeness
if you don't want to get rolled you first have to build up a good reputation

Akip wrote:actually i agree with holsten we usually tend to kill all stealthers too, every stealther tends to add when they can and dont run risk to get rolled, so its just the way we response to this rudeness

Bit of a generalization, isn't it?

holsten-knight wrote:when i kill solos i hope they build fg, works often enough. And stealthers deserve no mercy at all.

Thanks Holsten, thats what daoc is all about. I'm a Hib he is a Mid so I just try to kill him. If he his a stealther I will be more emotional for sure and try to kick his ass even if I die by trying (like Rare/BA does with me haha Bazinga )
We play a game and if I see a Mid and he his not a dwarf I will just kill him (lucky you Haals )
Sure you can claim rules to make it more enjoyable for everyone but hey just deal with it there are some players who just don't care and still wanna kill those visible Friar, hoping he is grouping up (or not -> free RP)

well, i am against killing arlen, priska and caroli . We still kill them if just few left for suited grp missi...

But i never watch if stealthers add or don't add our fights (you can't see them any way if they don't add ^^). I expect every stealther to add grp fights, at least i add every fight where i see a chance to get some rp or even survive when i am on hunter

In general i try to treat others the way they treat me.
For example few days ago some solos did not add a 2vs3 i had with geppi against 3 albs and we did not kill them or add their fights afterwards for sure. But with fg i don't have the command, i would even let soloers alive, but others in grp like to kill all and i don't care too much

holsten-knight wrote:well, i am against killing arlen, priska and caroli .

That's kinda beyond my idea of RvR. If someone wants to play visible RvR he can do it for sure, but he has to deal with it that I show up and kill him. I sometimes feel kinda sad for Arlen since he is only RR8 if I remember correctly but anyway since the only spot he knows is amg it's ok for me to kill him
And it's not that I don't remember anything if I see someone not adding my 2vsx, I will let him pass for sure, but I will not remember it for the next years. Same happens if someone adds, which is part of the game and why you need speed 6 + sos to survive in emain as a small men grp. What happens quite rarely is that I let a Hib die if I see any chance to rescue him. If I let someone die it might be because I teamed up with someone not called Killkeen who tells me to not add, or I think he would like not to. But I gonna rezz the Hib for sure afterwards
Gn8 everyone see you in Odins

Bazinga

I would like to thank everyone posting in this thread for taking time to consider ways to make 8v8 more possible with less adding and zerging. DG and holsten for not holding grudge over 2 of ba visible who used to add every 8v8 fight 1 year ago as stealthers . Celteen and killkeen for creating more interesting and entertaining 10(8 rr9-r11 + 2 ) vs 8 fights.Last but not least the various random mid groups, that make midgard proud and are always willing to fight for their homeland.I also agree that the low rr pug groups(like DG and GdR groups) SHOULD add to get some rps during primetime and it is fine with me. After all, one who adds today , lives to add another day, or so the saying goes.And everyone should keep in mind that : 8v8 is fun but you can NEVER have enough rps.

Pbuck wrote: Celteen and killkeen for creating more interesting and entertaining 10(8 rr9-r11 + 2 ) vs 8 fights.

Haha i knew one of your guild will post it that way. The fight for your group was over before Addkeen came to kill the last 2 standings ( armsman and sorc if i remember) but ofc you´ll always find a explanation that fits best for you
And start QQing in forums about any adds is a great idea. I should do that nexttime i get added in a running fight, where still all 8 of the opposing team are standing...

GreenP I dont think his post is too serious

i still love the ba humor

maybe we stop add you, as you are no more threat anyway and RP gain in 8vs8 is much higher

I still dunno who pweet is