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Postby Bizaflare » Mar 10, 2010 19:11

Glacius wrote:i look at his dmg and its kinda low for a berseker adding the fact that he wasnt hiting v fast so he had slow weapons too.


:D
maybe its not only the 2H-Damage which is low, but the Left-Axe/H2H/DW Damage which is too high on Uth? ;)
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Postby Glacius » Mar 10, 2010 19:30

Bizaflare wrote:
Glacius wrote:i look at his dmg and its kinda low for a berseker adding the fact that he wasnt hiting v fast so he had slow weapons too.


:D
maybe its not only the 2H-Damage which is low, but the Left-Axe/H2H/DW Damage which is too high on Uth? ;)


Maybe you should go test on live server Pendragon h2h DW La dmg and then compare it to live...and then make afirmations like this.

The arms had Soldiers baricade RA wich give him more af, thus lower dmg for bersy.

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Postby Neju » Mar 10, 2010 19:37

Glacius wrote:The arms had Soldiers baricade RA wich give him more af, thus lower dmg for bersy.


love this, you demand to know every detail about spec/af/skill/speed etc to even think about arms doing low dmg on uthgard

and then when its zerk dmg, you dismiss it instantly due to being a RA :lol:
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Postby Glacius » Mar 10, 2010 19:57

Neju wrote:
Glacius wrote:The arms had Soldiers baricade RA wich give him more af, thus lower dmg for bersy.


love this, you demand to know every detail about spec/af/skill/speed etc to even think about arms doing low dmg on uthgard

and then when its zerk dmg, you dismiss it instantly due to being a RA :lol:


Look at the pic, the man admited himself, having extra 400AF or how Soldier's baricade was reduces dmg alot.

I demand that info yes , because i need it to understand the dmg he did.

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Postby Neju » Mar 10, 2010 20:01

Glacius wrote:Look at the pic, the man admited himself, having extra 400AF or how Soldier's baricade was reduces dmg alot.


where does it say it was soldiers barricade? could just be AF charge/buff

if he mentioned and i missed it - then you are correct, but i cannot see it.
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Postby Toblerone » Mar 10, 2010 20:23

Neju wrote:
Glacius wrote:Look at the pic, the man admited himself, having extra 400AF or how Soldier's baricade was reduces dmg alot.


where does it say it was soldiers barricade? could just be AF charge/buff

if he mentioned and i missed it - then you are correct, but i cannot see it.


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Postby Glacius » Mar 10, 2010 20:25

He took the pic after the fight ofc, he s full hp, indeed what u see up is a spec AF.. yet in a fight vs a zerker i d use Soldier's baricade RA if i had it up, so i asumed he did, discusing that zerker's dmg its pointless as we dont know his spec his weapons the style he used , could be a gimp with 35 spec in laxe :P

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Postby Neju » Mar 10, 2010 20:27

Toblerone wrote:
zaszeadora wrote:And yes was pre toa, if anyone dont believe me, i left this players before toa out, kills indicator on herald and the sshot i have soldier barricade.


i stand corrected
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Postby zaszeadora » Mar 10, 2010 22:27

Glacius wrote:
Neju wrote:
Glacius wrote:The arms had Soldiers baricade RA wich give him more af, thus lower dmg for bersy.


love this, you demand to know every detail about spec/af/skill/speed etc to even think about arms doing low dmg on uthgard

and then when its zerk dmg, you dismiss it instantly due to being a RA :lol:


Look at the pic, the man admited himself, having extra 400AF or how Soldier's baricade was reduces dmg alot.

I demand that info yes , because i need it to understand the dmg he did.

No i didnt used Soldier barricade, was still active, soldier barricade was an example about the Old Frontiers photo

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Postby zaszeadora » Mar 10, 2010 22:29

Glacius wrote:He took the pic after the fight ofc, he s full hp, indeed what u see up is a spec AF.. yet in a fight vs a zerker i d use Soldier's baricade RA if i had it up, so i asumed he did, discusing that zerker's dmg its pointless as we dont know his spec his weapons the style he used , could be a gimp with 35 spec in laxe :P


He was using doublefrost, was a Real life friend and was testing damages on odin, i didnt use any ra, he didnt too, only styles etc.

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Postby Glacius » Mar 10, 2010 23:02

zaszeadora wrote:
Glacius wrote:He took the pic after the fight ofc, he s full hp, indeed what u see up is a spec AF.. yet in a fight vs a zerker i d use Soldier's baricade RA if i had it up, so i asumed he did, discusing that zerker's dmg its pointless as we dont know his spec his weapons the style he used , could be a gimp with 35 spec in laxe :P


He was using doublefrost, was a Real life friend and was testing damages on odin, i didnt use any ra, he didnt too, only styles etc.


Poor dmg he did, i wonder what spec he had..

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 10, 2010 23:42

It's not poor, it's livelike :D
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Postby Force » Mar 11, 2010 00:09

Actually, LA mechanics on live has been buffed to do more dmg on average over time than CD/DW mechanics. I posted the new forumla for live in the midgard section here some time ago.


That's right, on live LA does more dmg than here.

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Postby zaszeadora » Mar 11, 2010 00:20

Force wrote:Actually, LA mechanics on live has been buffed to do more dmg on average over time than CD/DW mechanics. I posted the new forumla for live in the midgard section here some time ago.


That's right, on live LA does more dmg than here.


Not sure about that , left axe was nerfed con 1.85 or similar, dont remember, problem are pole, long weapon damage , here you can hit for 500 on a gray ever

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Postby Force » Mar 11, 2010 00:33

zaszeadora wrote:
Force wrote:Actually, LA mechanics on live has been buffed to do more dmg on average over time than CD/DW mechanics. I posted the new forumla for live in the midgard section here some time ago.


That's right, on live LA does more dmg than here.


Not sure about that , left axe was nerfed con 1.85 or similar, dont remember, problem are pole, long weapon damage , here you can hit for 500 on a gray ever



Here's the testing demonstrating the new mechanic;;

http://sites.slobodov.com/vilna/daoc/newla


New formula;

Mainhand damage = 77.33 + 0.33 * spec
Offhand damage = 52.00 + 0.52 * spec


Old formula/uthgard formula;

Both hands = 0.625 + (1/3) * spec

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