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You CAN twist, but you can't sprint all the time while having speed. That's the point.
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- Druid pet is useless, mezz breaker
if you cant control a rupting pet -- its fine, but dont whine when u dont use all utility you can have and loose to ppl who do - free IP? Very useful. Hero is always first target. sure - and my zerker is NEVER 1st target...... just ask some alb group who got a clue how to play - About bard...amnesia is bugged, ppl cast through amnesia, has no rupt timer, a lot of bards complain about that. And anyway, mid grp just clicks SoS or insta mezz/stun. hibs got SoS and inst mezz too - Champ is really imba grp char, isn't he? no clue , donno if you cant fit it into a working setup Now MID! + buffable endu (no need to shout PLAY ENDU!) once dead shaman has to buff 8 ppl and not just playing 1 song. 8x endo also takes 8 out of the 20 buff slots. + perma sprint ok - there Mids win + VERY ANOOYING SPAMMABLE DISEASE Eld and Cabba can do the same + shaman free to shear buffs too druids and clerics can do the same - clerics even with higher range + celerity great spell - healer only has to be in 1k range to own tanks for it to work and other healing classes can stay way back at 2k range so they dont eat NS; mezz.... + savage with wtflolhahanoshitgotohell damage omg ! i suck and we need svg to win ! all svg fault ! + paci healer has HUGE crowd control HUGE CC and SMALL manabar to do it all and got the ability to use 2 spells same time..... + pom4 in grp setup run with menta and u get it too, and it doesnt fades once the buffer dies. btw - pac healer got no aug = crap baseline buffs - iirr the only buffer of all 3 realms who cant spec the buff line to increase the value + 9% abs from BD we allways run with a BD... we got 2 active BD in Mid + should I mention zerker's free criting time as you mentioned free hero IP? you can do - just know that vendo mode crits only do 50% not 100% bonus dmg and you loose all defence while in vendo mode + all magic resist in grp setup (a normal mid setup has aug healer and shaman) yep - win for Mids + ... I shall find some more. do so... @albs In my own humble opinion alb got the hardest to play 8v8 setup - but if done with good players that setup is also the strongest of all 3 realms |
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Sigh reminds me why I never bothered with this forum in the first place
http://www.filefront.com/14216283/bard.wmv Look for yourselves, notice the difference.
Cool a trolling forum mod. |
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hehehe go play ping pong^^ |
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- if you cant control a rupting pet -- its fine, but dont whine when u dont use all utility you can have and loose to ppl who do
What is there to control when grey pet doesn't rupt at all? So let's make nature druid? You need lvl20 pet or so to get stun. - sure - and my zerker is NEVER 1st target...... just ask some alb group who got a clue how to play Usually really not - at least in tank grp and there are not many caster grps + IP is not imba at all, and it's every 20 min. It's not worth mentioning. - hibs got SoS and inst mezz too What does this have to do with bard being best mezzer? - Champ is really imba grp char, isn't he? no clue , donno if you cant fit it into a working setup - no stoi and 30 sec of dmg boost...champ can easily get mezzed/rooted/stunned and ok we have a no-stoi svg 30 sec every 15 min and every 10th grp who has a champ. Hib is OP -.- Now MID! + buffable endu (no need to shout PLAY ENDU!) once dead shaman has to buff 8 ppl and not just playing 1 song. 8x endo also takes 8 out of the 20 buff slots. - ever tried killing a shaman while getting mezzed/rooted by healers and shaman getting healed by 2 healers and running away with perma sprint an insta paboe disease? That's what I call "imba mid kiting skills" + perma sprint ok - there Mids win - and at bunch of other things + VERY ANOOYING SPAMMABLE DISEASE Eld and Cabba can do the same - NO THEY CAN'T. Don't you see the difference between scale wearing always free to cast shaman and always attacked cloth wearing eld/caba with bunch of other duties as NS, debuff, nuke? Please don't say that it's same cause IT'S NOT. + shaman free to shear buffs too druids and clerics can do the same - clerics even with higher range - SAME ******. NO THEY CAN'T. You try to play a druid to heal, root, cure disease every 3 sec and then even shear buffs. Please don't say that it's same cause IT'S NOT. + celerity great spell - healer only has to be in 1k range to own tanks for it to work and other healing classes can stay way back at 2k range so they dont eat NS; mezz.... - Where is the problem being 1k away from tanks? At inc you surely are. And even in fight - it's no big deal. And this spell is OP ans other realms have no acces to it. Not even a 100 range 10 sec cast time celerity. + savage with wtflolhahanoshitgotohell damage omg ! i suck and we need svg to win ! all svg fault ! - Didn't say you suck, I said savage does to much damage, that's all. Maybe you can win without savage - but with it - it's just easy. + paci healer has HUGE crowd control HUGE CC and SMALL manabar to do it all and got the ability to use 2 spells same time..... - not that SMALL, and having insta mezz and insta stun on healer is very useful. You root when needed, shaman roots when he finishes casting disease for 10th time. + pom4 in grp setup run with menta and u get it too, and it doesnt fades once the buffer dies. btw - pac healer got no aug = crap baseline buffs - iirr the only buffer of all 3 realms who cant spec the buff line to increase the value - are you joking? I said pom4 in setup (meaning normal rvr setup). Is there a MANA ment in hib setup? No. Cause it sucks. So no pom for hibs. And...you don't have aug healer in grp? That's not the buff line? + 9% abs from BD we allways run with a BD... we got 2 active BD in Mid - We got 0. 9% isn't just nothing. + should I mention zerker's free criting time as you mentioned free hero IP? you can do - just know that vendo mode crits only do 50% not 100% bonus dmg and you loose all defence while in vendo mode - oh no, zerker really needs parry/evade 
+ all magic resist in grp setup (a normal mid setup has aug healer and shaman) yep - win for Mids + ... I shall find some more. do so... - BD has 4 sec recast lifetap. Every tried being a caster while having a BD on your back? |
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That's enough to see you don't know what you are talking about ^^ I am assuming direct control.
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not instant:P |
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Actually I've always had an MP Drum but never noticed. OOPS  |
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Ok, so everyone knows mids groups have the best setups leaving the other realms behind by a fair bit, but what can be done to sort this?
Would old RAs fix the problem? Even thats a bad option without custom changes as it does alot of damage to some already bad classes. I think albs have it the worst at the moment, having only 1 groupable healer. You'll never find as many cleric as healers as clerics offer one rvr playstyle (buffer/healer) whereas healers are played for various reasons (celerity, mez, healer) |
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On live grey con druid pets rupted... QQ to GMs to fix that bug (live before 1.8 OF)
like i said: ask the alb group who does, and why they do it
Why u mentioned it then before? i just quoted you. But here is the reason: sorc vs healer: healer needs to get into range click sorc, single inst him and cast ae mezz sorc cast ae mezz (highest dex) on larger range (375 more) healer vs bard: healer needs to pick bard, single inst him and cast ae mezz before amnesia lands bard needs to ae amnesia any target in the enemys group and cast ae mezz bard vs sorc: bard needs to ae amnesia any target in the enemy group, get into range and cast ae mezz sorcs need to help me out here how to win vs bard with amnesia - never played one
leave the svg out of this - cant hear the QQ anymore
yep - i do all the time vs theug... getting diseased by cabby, slammed by merc, pally, reaver, debuffed by clerics, cabbys, nuked by cabby and sorc, mezzed by sorc, rooted by sorc, levied by reaver.... and we still win our even share
no comment...
free to cast: your choice to leave him free eld/caba: allways attacked... your choice to prekite and eld/caba got qcast bunch of duties: shaman -> root, shear, shell, disease, rupt, sometimes heal, rebuff sheared ppl IT's NOT: thats YOUR opinion - do u just yelling out your opinion or really want to talk about advandages and disadvantages of all 3 realms - to get better in the game so you win more and loose less
i never said DAoC is an easy game like all the new MMORPS - that is exactly the reason why i play it. If you cant do it, then try to get better so you can.
at inc casting clerity is useless because your tanks are out of 1k range once you finished the cast and mid fight: if you leave mids main healer AND CCer alone and dont rupt them... ok then celerity is great: if you have the power to do so....
it was irony because i read so many QQ svg posts here - they do a hell of the dmg, but that can be countered. And the most hated/feared mid group is only running with 1 svg - so svg is not everything
instant mezz and stun is resisted very often. they cost power too, they are very low duration, only pac healer get it, pac healer are still a HEALER (even if some healer dont understand that), healer need to get: win CC RA's and Healing RA's, healer have to cure mezz, heal ppl, try not to get rumpted since they are prim target... healer is very powerful and combining alot in 1 class, but on the other hand you only have to rupt 1 class to shut down ALL those abilitys.
there are 2 healer in mid: aug and pac. pac got pom but no buffs, aug got buffs but no pom - thats the point. no room for menta? it is your choice to only run tank groups btw. HL drop a weapon with pom4 clicky like i use it on my augi
you say ments suck in group: ask most mid and they will say BD suck in groups (4svg, skald, shaman, 2 healer, AotG, SoS, anytime taunt ftw)
if you dont attack them they dont... your choice
but i know how it feels to be qcast stuned and nuked to hell from hib casters, slamed and levied to hell..... all 3 realms got strong abilities To sum it up: ALL 3 realms got some goodies, just make the best out of them, mix in a good portion of player skill and you can win vs any other setup |
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Everyone knows mid groups have the best setups? Hmmmm.... guess i am not everyone.... I know mids have the easiest to build setup, but albs got the best setup (my opinion) And yes clerics are boring.... but then most mid healers just sucks because they need to do healing and CC and forgetting to do one of the 2 things. |
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I would also add
If you dont have any clue about Hibernia, dont write at all. I would advice: http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder2.cfm?Mentalist Check utility of Mana Menta and then write such a B**l s**t |
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you can build 7+1 groups, that will work in rvr on any realm:
hib: d, d, b, eld, ench, bm, hero, x alb: c, c, s, cab, theurg, pala, merc, x mid: h, h, s, skald, rune, zerk, warri, x put x any other class, it works.   |
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Actually make that: c,c,s,pala,theurg,merc,reaver,x |
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omg^^ its a grp game so u wont just meet with a healer a single bard xD a skald for example has instant rupt on same range like bard mezz etc .. normaly ur grp is just gimped if u fall in a big firstmezz ^^ |
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