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Postby Lintu » May 26, 2010 12:25

Snigel wrote:It should be no problem if fE an SB and a Ranger jump on a alb 3men, kill them and then spread out without killing each other.

It´s my decision who I´m going to attack, nothing else :D


Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.
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Postby Celad » May 26, 2010 12:42

Lintu wrote:
Snigel wrote: It should be no problem if fE an SB and a Ranger jump on a alb 3men, kill them and then spread out without killing each other.

It´s my decision who I´m going to attack, nothing else



Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.



If there are two enemyes, one hib and one alb, and i decide to attack first the alb... then the hib add on the alb too (ok... never seen this, hibs never add, but we are just hypothesizing ).
Is this cooperation?

Please, dear Lintu, stop writing craps.

If you want to add, then add, no one can stop you because you're not breaking any rule. But we don't want to do the same fighing as we do in OG, not breaking any rule.
Indeed we can say that you are a noob that add with a fg on a solo , we are not breaking any rules.

Edit: miss a "not".

//Edited by Nayru. Stop insulting other users here!
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Postby massivmampfer » May 26, 2010 13:44

Lintu wrote:
Snigel wrote:It should be no problem if fE an SB and a Ranger jump on a alb 3men, kill them and then spread out without killing each other.

It´s my decision who I´m going to attack, nothing else :D


Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.


§2.5 You may not cooperate with other realms in RvR. The realms are meant to have war. However if it is indispensable to fight each others in an equal manner (3 players of different realms fighting each other), there is no problem. As soon as groups of different realms organize their RvR together, it becomes a rule violation.

Cooperation and Organization are two different things. And as the rules say its not forbidden that both mid and hib attack the alb first.

The Meeting in OG happens by accident. If we had contacted us via IRC, InGame /send etc it would be organization.
The way we fight each other (/bow -> 1 on 1) is our, the duelists, the solo players, way of fighting. If our honorable way of fighting is interupted by honorless adders, they´ll face the consequences.
You could also argue that going to emain with fg is realm organization, but thats nonesense as well. I also saw fgs passing a fight between other groups in order to not to add, so it is no problem to do so as solo as well. Or it becomes rule violation for all kinds of RvR. But I dont think that you would like that...or the other 8 vs 8 participants.

In the end its everyones own business who they want to fight against and when. It may be unwise to attack, for example, an infiltrator, when he is near you. There might be a second one who waits for your attack^^. You cannot be forced to fight every enemy you see.

Gosh...that would be great if no one was allowed to run away from me lol.
If an army of cowards tries to find a hero there is no need for someone to make a step forwards. Its enough when all others step back.

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Postby Oxymoron » May 26, 2010 13:59

Lintu wrote:
Snigel wrote:It should be no problem if fE an SB and a Ranger jump on a alb 3men, kill them and then spread out without killing each other.

It´s my decision who I´m going to attack, nothing else :D


Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.


Well, I must repeat myself: It is not duels in Odins! It is random fights that happen where other honorable players make the choice not to add into a solo 1v1 fight. After that fight is over, the winner of the fight is usually killed by someone else that has not been adding before.

We do not see rule violation here. There is no rule that says that you have to add or you must attack anyone at anytime. I mean come on: we are not freaking cabby pets in agressive mode^^

Its also not about rules only mate, its about skills. Everyone has a chance to show what he got. RR and class does not matter. If you are good you have a chance. If you are not, you are not.

We will keep this alive! Nobody can stop us! If we do something wrong, GMs will let us know. So far no GM has ever made a statement in the various threads that we are doing illegal things. If I am doing anything against the rules, I am willing to accept the appropriate punishment for that. If thats a ban, its ok.

To our player colleagues: please stop pretending to be the referees here and telling others what the rulez are. We all know what they are and we obey them. If we have an uncertain case that needs closer attention, we have an arbitration instance here (GMs) and those guyz will take care of it. So far I have not seen any negative sign so: c u later!

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Postby Lintu » May 26, 2010 14:29

Well some months ago there was just random meeting in Thidranki and doing 1on1 at the keep. Noone did add. That was reason enough to aeBan the players for 7 days (not sure if rp farming or arranging duels was the official reason)

But this is pretty much the same then, isnt it? Random meeting for 1on1 without add.

Actually I wouldnt say this is a rule violation but there have been bans before - for not more than what here happens.

I like the idea, just dont wna get aeBanned again for actually no reason. Just bad experience ;) Take care.



Celad wrote:Please, dear Lintunoobinsta, stop writing craps. :lol:

@Celad Thanks for insulting me. Great job, be proud of your behaviour.
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Postby Celad » May 26, 2010 14:43

Lintu wrote:
Celad wrote:Please, dear Lintunoobinsta, stop writing craps. :lol:

@Celad Thanks for insulting me. Great job, be proud of your behaviour.


Did you be proud of your behaviour when you add me yesterday night? :roll:
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Postby Snigel » May 26, 2010 15:18

Lintu wrote:Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.


Lintu wrote:Actually I wouldnt say this is a rule violation but there have been bans before - for not more than what here happens.



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Postby Oxymoron » May 26, 2010 15:22

Snigel wrote:
Lintu wrote:Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.


Lintu wrote:Actually I wouldnt say this is a rule violation but there have been bans before - for not more than what here happens.



:?:


:!:

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Postby Lintu » May 26, 2010 15:39

Snigel wrote:
Lintu wrote:Cooperation of realms. Rules say its gonna be banned. Thats why I dont join the duels in Odins: Actually all of you arranging duels and cooperate in a way, so all of you break the rules. Had a discussion about that in Teamspeak yesterday.


Lintu wrote:Actually I wouldnt say this is a rule violation but there have been bans before - for not more than what here happens.



:?:


First quote is about what GMs made me believe by aeBanning Thidranki as explained above.
imo its not a rule violation, but if GMs think otherwise, its reason enough to not do it ;)


Celad wrote:Did you be proud of your behaviour when you add me yesterday night? :roll:


Went there in duo from the start. Played long time yesterday tho, I dont remember the exact situation. PM me if it means anything to you :roll:
Thats all the reason why you feel free to insult me? What might GMs say? ;)
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Postby Celad » May 26, 2010 16:24

Noob is not an insult. If it's not the truth, why you are so upset?

Celad wrote:Indeed we can say that you are a noob that add with a fg on a solo :twisted: , we are not breaking any rules.



Ok i've insulted you here:


Celad wrote:Linumoroninsta


sorry for this, i was really angry for your add... Bugsy was at 1% when you stun me. :evil:
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Postby Oxymoron » May 26, 2010 17:25

Celad wrote:Noob is not an insult. If it's not the truth, why you are so upset?

Celad wrote:Indeed we can say that you are a noob that add with a fg on a solo :twisted: , we are not breaking any rules.



Ok i've insulted you here:


Celad wrote:Linumoroninsta


sorry for this, i was really angry for your add... Bugsy was at 1% when you stun me. :evil:


still wouldda killed you :lol: ^^

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Postby Runental » May 26, 2010 17:45

Any1 up in Odins? Try to come the long way :grin:
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Postby lampardinos » May 26, 2010 18:18

Pff no reason to fight paper (yay Im the rock).

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Postby Celad » May 26, 2010 18:51

Lol mighty sign Runental :D
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Postby Oxymoron » May 26, 2010 19:53

ok, put on your dancing shoes now

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