Braxis wrote:Blue stated that there are no caps or diminishing retunrs on uthgard.
Except for 250 qui ofcourse.

which isn't livelike for this period of daoc

I dont think 400 was the str cap before toa, would make no sense for races like troll or firbolg to get augm str when fullbufed and that s not the way it was.

Holsten there is no 2h gimp dmg on uthgard, thats the dmg on live also, if you dont believe me make a toon same stats etc and hit same target on both servers unstyled ofc to see min and max dmg at 51 spec , you will notice 38%-40% variance also. I tested with war and skald .

PS Savage using 2h wil get on skad,champ dmg table , while with h2h he is somewhere in the middle between hibryd and merc,arms etc, plus the style growths in h2h are alot better then the styles on hammer,sword,axe.

Glacius wrote:I dont think 400 was the str cap before toa, would make no sense for races like troll or firbolg to get augm str when fullbufed and that s not the way it was.

Holsten there is no 2h gimp dmg on uthgard, thats the dmg on live also, if you dont believe me make a toon same stats etc and hit same target on both servers unstyled ofc to see min and max dmg at 51 spec , you will notice 38%-40% variance also. I tested with war and skald .

PS Savage using 2h wil get on skad,champ dmg table , while with h2h he is somewhere in the middle between hibryd and merc,arms etc, plus the style growths in h2h are alot better then the styles on hammer,sword,axe.

Well my unbuffed arms on live could do 500+ damage on a swing to a zerker unbuffed too(both crafted), here its imposible

zaszeadora wrote:

Glacius wrote:I dont think 400 was the str cap before toa, would make no sense for races like troll or firbolg to get augm str when fullbufed and that s not the way it was.

Holsten there is no 2h gimp dmg on uthgard, thats the dmg on live also, if you dont believe me make a toon same stats etc and hit same target on both servers unstyled ofc to see min and max dmg at 51 spec , you will notice 38%-40% variance also. I tested with war and skald .

PS Savage using 2h wil get on skad,champ dmg table , while with h2h he is somewhere in the middle between hibryd and merc,arms etc, plus the style growths in h2h are alot better then the styles on hammer,sword,axe.

Well my unbuffed arms on live could do 500+ damage on a swing to a zerker unbuffed too(both crafted), here its imposible

Unbufed arms to hit for 500 dmg clean , no crit, lets analise this:

- spec af on zerker was the only thing that could affect ur arms dmg vs him plus the extra af bonus.
- was ur arms pole or 2h ? i know some polearms that had 6.2 spd ..what dmg type was ur arms slash ? or crush thrust?
- you talk about pre TOA or after TOA ? having 10% style/melee dmg bonus and +25 to str from items helps abit if we consider toa.
- with what style u did 500 dmg ? i had arms also and i tried all specs, defender's rage was a good style but only when it got changed to front style i could say ppl really used it, because the OF requirement on it was "after your target styles" on you .. 2nd in a row from back lvl 40+ was ok as growth dmg,rest were bad.
- i hope your targets had caped resists etc.. to hit for 500 dmg on a target weak to slash you should do 500(-95) , to me 600 dmg on a neutral resist berseker its abit too much unbufed.

On uth I've seen troll zerkers hit cloth for 400 with doublefrost (mainhand), I'm lucky if I hit for 400 using annihilation or even close to 350 with anytimer lol.

No it wasn't you motaro, you're not the hardest hitting smartest tank.

Toblerone wrote:On uth I've seen troll zerkers hit cloth for 400 with doublefrost (mainhand), I'm lucky if I hit for 400 using annihilation or even close to 350 with anytimer lol.

No it wasn't you motaro, you're not the hardest hitting smartest tank.

The fact that i have augm str4 helps you know:)i get to have 269 str unbufed while u hardly get to 200str..

400 dmg with doublefrost on a caster with no pd and 26% melee resists fully bufed..hmm fully bufed with dext/quic and no haste but using backstyles i did also i think..with doublefrost i dont think so.

all bla bla bla WOULD NOT HELP HIBERNIA !

Question is could the staff do something for hibernia ??? And will they ?

Glacius wrote:

zaszeadora wrote:

Glacius wrote:I dont think 400 was the str cap before toa, would make no sense for races like troll or firbolg to get augm str when fullbufed and that s not the way it was.

Holsten there is no 2h gimp dmg on uthgard, thats the dmg on live also, if you dont believe me make a toon same stats etc and hit same target on both servers unstyled ofc to see min and max dmg at 51 spec , you will notice 38%-40% variance also. I tested with war and skald .

PS Savage using 2h wil get on skad,champ dmg table , while with h2h he is somewhere in the middle between hibryd and merc,arms etc, plus the style growths in h2h are alot better then the styles on hammer,sword,axe.

Well my unbuffed arms on live could do 500+ damage on a swing to a zerker unbuffed too(both crafted), here its imposible

Unbufed arms to hit for 500 dmg clean , no crit, lets analise this:

- spec af on zerker was the only thing that could affect ur arms dmg vs him plus the extra af bonus.
- was ur arms pole or 2h ? i know some polearms that had 6.2 spd ..what dmg type was ur arms slash ? or crush thrust?
- you talk about pre TOA or after TOA ? having 10% style/melee dmg bonus and +25 to str from items helps abit if we consider toa.
- with what style u did 500 dmg ? i had arms also and i tried all specs, defender's rage was a good style but only when it got changed to front style i could say ppl really used it, because the OF requirement on it was "after your target styles" on you .. 2nd in a row from back lvl 40+ was ok as growth dmg,rest were bad.
- i hope your targets had caped resists etc.. to hit for 500 dmg on a target weak to slash you should do 500(-95) , to me 600 dmg on a neutral resist berseker its abit too much unbufed.

Well i have the screenshot, pre toa , just post SI, a 99 pole crafted, and full crafted zerker. no crit, chain style , and no buffs, and i was on OLD frontier AMG, to be exactly

Show it to me. 500 dmg unbufed on a zerker pre toa means u would do 700 dmg clean buffed wich is alot because i dont think there were 6.2 spd polearms at that time.

Can ppl stop talking this crap all the time?
I dont give a .... what dmg you all do!

Glacius wrote:Show it to me. 500 dmg unbufed on a zerker pre toa means u would do 700 dmg clean buffed wich is alot because i dont think there were 6.2 spd polearms at that time.

Well old frontiers, old RAS, craftez zerker friend, testing damages...pole here dont do this damage ever!

And yes was pre toa, if anyone dont believe me, i left this players before toa out, kills indicator on herald and the sshot i have soldier barricade .

Berseker's resist to your dmg was 19% , i dont know if slash crush thrust, total dmg 704 , your base dmg was 351 dmg, style dmg around 101% or so ..just abit more then 100%, the style u used is after target styles , defender's rage with 1.2 growth style on some sites , now has been changed to frontal style and i dont know if the growth rate is higher or not.

I dont know a few things, wich count alot..your target's lvl because i look at his dmg and its kinda low for a berseker adding the fact that he wasnt hiting v fast so he had slow weapons too..almost like you hit, he hits and considering polearm speed..., your targets gear, having 94% qual armour or 99% armour make a dif, i dont know his armours condition, if cond is low the abs is lower then 19% , i dont know your polearm speed and your quic , was a time when ppl didnt cap quic to hit harder thus slower wich was stupid because u loose dps in time, not having high quic you have bigger style dmg.

If you could tell me at least the spd of your polearm your rr , spec ,race i could do a test on pendragon when i got time.

Glacius wrote:Berseker's resist to your dmg was 19% , i dont know if slash crush thrust, total dmg 704 , your base dmg was 351 dmg, style dmg around 101% or so ..just abit more then 100%, the style u used is after target styles , defender's rage with 1.2 growth style on some sites , now has been changed to frontal style and i dont know if the growth rate is higher or not.

I dont know a few things, wich count alot..your target's lvl because i look at his dmg and its kinda low for a berseker adding the fact that he wasnt hiting v fast so he had slow weapons too..almost like you hit, he hits and considering polearm speed..., your targets gear, having 94% qual armour or 99% armour make a dif, i dont know his armours condition, if cond is low the abs is lower then 19% , i dont know your polearm speed and your quic , was a time when ppl didnt cap quic to hit harder thus slower wich was stupid because u loose dps in time, not having high quic you have bigger style dmg.

If you could tell me at least the spd of your polearm your rr , spec ,race i could do a test on pendragon when i got time.

He was a 50 zerk rank 6, same like me, i was 5 or so on the photo, was testing dmg both with styles, he was no 45 if you are happy to think that, i can tell you anythink youll be telling me storyes about ahappy world where pole do 300 dmg like here.

Now i know why ppl dont respond never your post ^^


Btw, i was highlander semi-crafted , he too, both have 99 weap, mine was 5.5 speed or 4.5 dont remember, but anyways here on 5.5 cand do this dmg. And yes was defender rage frontal style on photo too...

zaszeadora wrote:

Glacius wrote:Berseker's resist to your dmg was 19% , i dont know if slash crush thrust, total dmg 704 , your base dmg was 351 dmg, style dmg around 101% or so ..just abit more then 100%, the style u used is after target styles , defender's rage with 1.2 growth style on some sites , now has been changed to frontal style and i dont know if the growth rate is higher or not.

I dont know a few things, wich count alot..your target's lvl because i look at his dmg and its kinda low for a berseker adding the fact that he wasnt hiting v fast so he had slow weapons too..almost like you hit, he hits and considering polearm speed..., your targets gear, having 94% qual armour or 99% armour make a dif, i dont know his armours condition, if cond is low the abs is lower then 19% , i dont know your polearm speed and your quic , was a time when ppl didnt cap quic to hit harder thus slower wich was stupid because u loose dps in time, not having high quic you have bigger style dmg.

If you could tell me at least the spd of your polearm your rr , spec ,race i could do a test on pendragon when i got time.

He was a 50 zerk rank 6, same like me, i was 5 or so on the photo, was testing dmg both with styles, he was no 45 if you are happy to think that, i can tell you anythink youll be telling me storyes about ahappy world where pole do 300 dmg like here.

Now i know why ppl dont respond never your post ^^


Btw, i was highlander semi-crafted , he too, both have 99 weap, mine was 5.5 speed or 4.5 dont remember, but anyways here on 5.5 cand do this dmg. And yes was defender rage frontal style on photo too...

M8ty u can curse me all u want, there are so many things that can affect actual dmg on a player, all i can do is make an arms and hit a studded target on live now, but you should know that maybe Defender's rage has growth rate abit increased..not sure i l gota have a look , your base dmg was 351 and the style dmg added 353 , its alot, i still dont know if u had caped quic in your template or not because it matters to end dmg.
His lower dmg is due to your soldier's baricade so its understandable.

Thnx for reply i noted your stats these days when i ll have time i l show you the range where your polearms dmg should be compared to live now.

PS I dont think live dmg now is worse then it was back then for arms on pole so it should be viable.

FAK GUYS STOP THIS !

you really wonder why GMs/Dev dont answer to threads?