Talking about IRC experience.

By the way, don't discriminate people who enjoy Battlegrounds more than stupid Emain RvR

lately in emain, more often than not, we run without a skald and 2+ casters.

Iceer wrote:The point in mid is, castergroup, meleegroup and caster/melee mix are working fine if the player knows their gameplay.

Yup mids have more skill than anyone else, and if you happen to reroll from mid you instantly loose that skill

maybe it's to do with the classes, ever thought of that?

I also have some toons in Albion. Also at higher level. We also killed mids in 8vs8. The point is, Albion is the hybrid realm. Root is useless against Mercenaries who can use bows. Reaver do strong side style damage with lifeleech. Clerics/Friar (yes friar) can easily heal against a two-man-assist.

What is your tactic with albion on the battlefield? mezz, mezz, mezz, mezz and wondering why do you died?

weird.

Iceer wrote:I also have some toons in Albion. Also at higher level. We also killed mids in 8vs8. The point is, Albion is the hybrid realm. Root is useless against Mercenaries who can use bows. Reavers do strong side style damage. Clerics/Friar (yes friar) can easily heal against a two-man-assist.

What is your tactic with albion on the battlefield? mezz, mezz, mezz, mezz and wondering why do you died?

weird.

lol you are awesome...

firstly i doubt you killed any good grps in 8v8, especially considering you want to reaver to use sidestyles when they can easily do backstyle for better dmg... but who wants dmg when the reaver can do sidestyle to lifetap

So root is useless on zerks/warriors because they can use thrown weap's

Friar is just pure win, get a clue.. and what is this 2man assist you speak of - most mid/hib grps run atleast 3 man assist usually..

and i don't loose most of my fights

* i don't have anything against bg's* but don't comment on 50 rvr when you just haven't done any

i doubt that throwing weapons deal 200+ Damage like a bow.

Also, why dont you take friars? They have IMPORTANT resistances. The can heal. They have instants. They can melee.

And yes, reaver can do high damage with Leviathan. But sometimes lifeleech is better to keep you alive instead of being an austrian killing machine.

I dont get your point of the perfect group setups and discrminiating other classes. Explain it please!

Iceer wrote:i doubt that throwing weapons deal 200+ Damage like a bow.

Mercenaries aren't scouts - i doubt they do 200+ dmg.

Iceer wrote:Also, why dont you take friars? They have IMPORTANT resistances. The can heal. They have instants. They can melee.

Resists are nice, but unlike midgard albion can't really spare slots as abilities spread out on many classes, Friars can heal, They don't have instants, if they melee they cannot heal... if they spec either to a good amount then the other is pretty gimp.. oh and there is the 3sec interupt delay between melee and healing.

Iceer wrote:And yes, reaver can do high damage with Leviathan. But sometimes lifeleech is better to keep you alive instead of being an austrian killing machine.

Reaver's job is to kill, it's a dps - it should priorities killing, clerics can heal it better than it can lifetap itself.

Really, i don't care about what are you doubt about. I am talking about my experiences, i don't talk about Theories and "it could be".

And i am asking again: Please explain me your perfect setup thinking and why do you discriminate other classes who do not fit this setup.

"Utility" is not an argument. It is invalid.

Iceer wrote:"Utility" is not an argument. It is invalid.

so rather than answer my post you come with a great statement like that, no wonder you rerolled to mid

Iceer wrote:also, why dont you take friars? They have IMPORTANT resistances. The can heal. They have instants. They can melee.

Imagine wardens. Think how much people dislike having wardens because of their lack of utility in groups. Imagine taking away PBT and aotg from that utility. You get a class with even less utility, called a friar, consequently even less wanted in groups.

to be fair to friars, they offer albs a 3rd buffing class (so they can base and clerics can get more specs out), which hibs already have without a warden.


still don't think I'd run one though if I had the choice of setup lol. but I should say it would depend on the friar too. I remember Ryse from QQ Quails was damn rape on a friar back in the day.

@ Neju : I dont spam doublefrost all the time stop talking shiet , but i know what dmg i make and i saw what dmg merc makes , my max dmg with crush vs hib studded was 300(-60) using snowsquall and 100 offh, half ogre merc did on me 340 mainh 140 offh using slash dmg and side styles ..i d say its prety normal .
I have 247 str unbufed..if other ppl make bm and merc from celts its their problem ..but then i hope they wount come here crying cause of their sisy girl dmg.


@ Iceer M8ty, no doubt healer is the class with most utility in this game, but we all know that a druid and cleric can healer better if we talk about healing..ups and downs as i said.

Glacius wrote:druid and cleric can healer better if we talk about healing..

No not really.

I've yet to be in a 3 healer group on mid here, which means you've only got one healer left who isn't primary CC and interrupting.

If your pac is amazing and your aug is really high RR you may not notice a difference but on average its easier for clerics/druids to focus on healing.

Toblerone wrote:

Glacius wrote:druid and cleric can healer better if we talk about healing..

No not really.

Why not? so they can shear better? so every merc can have spec dext/quic cause aoe is not good or?:P same for the drood.