ellinas wrote:hi all
i read the hole thread and i am real amused


i start with daoc from beta and played 5+years but never read as many crap as in this thread
i played on mid/ava and remeber that the first lvl 50 (sophi a skald ) need 14 played days for it... without to know as much about the game as we now know...

seth and presto would punish the hole server, cause they wasnt able to play a char who was helpfull for a group..so they invest 500% more time to lvl a chat like sophia ...( btw:here sec char was a hunter and he need only a few day to lvl him...he lvl 2 chars in the half time one of u lvl one....)

but the oposition is as funny too..
to say it dont make a differenz(or not a high differenz) if a newbie with green quali 85% armor near no ressi goes to bg or if u go there with high ressi high equi +6 to all
its bullshit...

u have to find a middle curse
u wanne have fun in emain? so let the chars became as fast as possible 50

its an rvr not an pvm game and there is one easy way to do it

make a merchant who sells 95% stuff for low price ... some stuff with some ressi so they can have fun in the bgs and can lvl easyerlie


its a low pop server dont forgett it.. its not easy to make a group so u have to lvl the most time solo and soloing takes a lot of time and its real boring

Aha,seems like there is someone with a lot of experience....

To bad I play DAoC since release too and can say you are telling crap.

I still level faster then at the classic times.The times you are talking about is nowadays,since Catacombs leveling has become way easier on live servers.

My first 50 was a Paladin on Lyonesse (classic time when not even Camlann was released) He had a Played time of 20 days.I even remember numbers.We were happy when we had a xp grp where did kill mobs and get 17 million as a lvl 45+.

Now I just became 50 with my NS yesterday and ohaa see /played its only 10 days,as a Nightshade even! so if you waste your time with complaining about this server instead of killing mobs its no wonder you need years to become 50.Uthgard has its own style and 300+ people seem to like it so you are wrong with your points.

So please dont waste our time with such suggestions which will never apply here.Thanks

With one of my char, level 49 atm and not even 6 days /played...

xp rates are perfect imo, just need to fix the grp stuff and the mob add things and ofcourse the quest things but hey, implementing all quests will take a long time, but maybe players can help out?

staff, any ways we as community can help to building quests? gather info, test certain quests, anything?

i think 75% of the community on the boards want to help making uthgard better

ps. great server and plz never change xp rates

You guys seriously think the XP rates today, even on Uthgard are slow compared to what true classic daoc used to be? C'mon..and you even have the luxury of SC/Alchemy here.

Make XP rates like TRUE classic pre-DF times! That'll give them something to cry about...

Scrooge is absolutely right. Mobs are way easier here and XP Bonus is everywhere. If we would do real classic then all of you would cry.

There is no need to get multiple chars to 50. One is enough. Stick to your main char. Getting to 50 is not that hard on Uthgard like many try to tell.

And as I said many many times before: Leveling and building the char has the advantage to KNOW what the char is able to do with its skills and that you are forced to work with other players and get new friends ingame this way.

I cant understand people, who made a levl 50 char, but go to make rvr in Bream/Wilton/Thid instead of Emain.

(For me) It was damnd hart work to get levl 50 and levling is very boring ands it´s hard work to get a good XP group. (I need 3 Weeks with play time 40 Hours. This isn´t mutch, but for me it was a long time)
So why should i go to Thid oder Bremar after this hard work?

I often get ask if i got a Twink for Thid after get killed a few time in Emain and other player dont realy understand why i have no Twinks.

The problem is, that i realy often thought of quiting on this server, because there is often no rvr in Emain.
Infact i know a few people, who realy quit on this Server becaus of this problem of no rvr in Emain, after they get here Chars to levl 50.

I dont realy know what the most people think about the problem, but its a fakt that some people are quiting or going to quite, and thats a real problem for the server if the most people go to "Instant 50" or other server.

I think Emain should get more attraktiv, instead of making rules who makes playing on Breamar or Thid for Twinks harder.

For example i think its no good idea to make only 1 tower per Guild claimable.

And Scrooge are right: This is no classic Server. The Dragon isn´t classic, the exp isn´t classic, so i dont realy understand the old arguement "But we do this, becaus its a classic Server"

Its quite confusing why level 50 chars should quit the server and join a I50 server but play level 30 twinks here. The only reason that comes to my mind is that lots of unskilled meat is out there on a I50 style server that is ready to get farmed, like it would be in Braemar. Its a less organized RvR.

Btw Emain numbers are in most times higher than Braemar. Dont get it wrong. Yesterday Emain was filled with 60 people when I looked at the internal RvR stats. Braemar had way less people inside. The difference is maybe that you have one central (maybe zergier) meeting point in Braemar, so that you get the illusion that there is more activity.

And Scrooge are right: This is no classic Server. The Dragon isn´t classic, the exp isn´t classic, so i dont realy understand the old arguement "But we do this, becaus its a classic Server"

This is no old argument, its a concept. On some places we try to take good ideas from live servers like the Dragons or Spellcrafting. XP Bonus is here to get RvR rewarding and ease the leveling of realm mates. Basically you can say that we implement things until SI. RvR is sized to our population. The upmost idea is to get players working together. This is a red thread behind all decisions we make.

As i started on the server, alle player´s i know only played in Emain i must get levl 50 by my self.

After i get levl 50 alle player´s i know started to levl Twinks and played in Thid.


I dont know the reason (perhaps i have Body odor or something like this) but some Players who get levl 50 in the same time as me noticed this behavior too and quit the server, becaus they wouln´t made a Twink to play in Thid but got the problem that they get no group in Emain.

It´s a fakt if you listen in TS, some player say "I prefer playing Thid, it makes mor fune at the moment" and this frustrated me.

Even my Guild is playing most time in Thid the last time.

I think i ground a own Guild. The "We-play-only-in-Emain" Guild

For examle: Yesterday me made a Legion Raid. We got good Groups and good player. After the rune, some of the new levl 50 ask of Zerging a little bit in Emain.
But almost everyone loged out and go fighting Thid or Bremar.

Its simple I think. People are afraid of too much organized RvR because they would loose if they dont get organized. Its a circle. In BG's you have more dirty RvR so to say. Also because of BG limits you can expect that your enemy is not that uber.

I dont know exactly, but a BG design in Emain with 4 towers was discussed before. We always declared that design as too zergish. I have the feeling this is what most of the twinkers want. Centralized RvR? We have an internal discussion about taking Agramon as central RvR meeting point but this is not enough thought out yet.

You could be right, but this is a stupid behavior.

Bevor i played DAOC, i played Ultima Online on a Free Shared (Old World)
If some know this game:

If you get killed in this game, the enemy could loot youre hole Inventory.

This is HARD RvR!!!

But whats the problem of getting killed here in DAOC. Nobody loos something.
This is realy frustrating.

But i think it could be that most of the player would like central RVR with no long way to run. Sometimes you must spend mutch time by runing in Emain arround bevor you finde some Enemy. Perhaps this is the reason why most of the player are bored of Emain.

Think it's more due to the fact some newer guilds etc want to go emain and have fun but the higher realm ranks (6-8 up to now?) Just rape you instantly no challenge for them .

Could be an idea, like BG's that higher realm ranks like 6+ can't go in emain and have agramon as the higher ups emain version so it can be sort of fair. Not everyone plays from the beginning or every second of day due to work etc.

Just a thought the xp fine 2 bubs till 50 . Primrose soon will be emain players too so we will see how it is

Could be an idea for GM's to spectate emain (if don't already and see how it is and what can be improved.

(just a bit off topic sorry)

The power doesnt come from realm rank only. This is a minor part imo. Its more that players in emain have better skills, are better organized and have better teamplay. So limiting realm rank doesnt solve anything. Emain is open end rvr.

/agree @ blue .. i often saw how some people killed some high rr people with rr-3-4 in ALL 3 realms .. so its something about teamplay and skill

Roger wrote:

ellinas wrote:hi all
i read the hole thread and i am real amused


i start with daoc from beta and played 5+years but never read as many crap as in this thread
i played on mid/ava and remeber that the first lvl 50 (sophi a skald ) need 14 played days for it... without to know as much about the game as we now know...

seth and presto would punish the hole server, cause they wasnt able to play a char who was helpfull for a group..so they invest 500% more time to lvl a chat like sophia ...( btw:here sec char was a hunter and he need only a few day to lvl him...he lvl 2 chars in the half time one of u lvl one....)

but the oposition is as funny too..
to say it dont make a differenz(or not a high differenz) if a newbie with green quali 85% armor near no ressi goes to bg or if u go there with high ressi high equi +6 to all
its bullshit...

u have to find a middle curse
u wanne have fun in emain? so let the chars became as fast as possible 50

its an rvr not an pvm game and there is one easy way to do it

make a merchant who sells 95% stuff for low price ... some stuff with some ressi so they can have fun in the bgs and can lvl easyerlie


its a low pop server dont forgett it.. its not easy to make a group so u have to lvl the most time solo and soloing takes a lot of time and its real boring

Aha,seems like there is someone with a lot of experience....

To bad I play DAoC since release too and can say you are telling crap.

I still level faster then at the classic times.The times you are talking about is nowadays,since Catacombs leveling has become way easier on live servers.

My first 50 was a Paladin on Lyonesse (classic time when not even Camlann was released) He had a Played time of 20 days.I even remember numbers.We were happy when we had a xp grp where did kill mobs and get 17 million as a lvl 45+.

Now I just became 50 with my NS yesterday and ohaa see /played its only 10 days,as a Nightshade even! so if you waste your time with complaining about this server instead of killing mobs its no wonder you need years to become 50.Uthgard has its own style and 300+ people seem to like it so you are wrong with your points.

So please dont waste our time with such suggestions which will never apply here.Thanks

do u realy understand what u read?

i said the first lvl 50 on ava takes 14 played days... its true belive or not
(and he do it without schamy endu(mid get much late endu than other realms , witout bombs, without malmohus..he hit lvl 50 in spindel..)
(u play in alb, with endu icer and lyoness it means u havent the ability to arrange a good group, not that the exp was lower..) cause u and other wasnt able to do it in the same time it doesnt mean it wasn possible...
if u start with all you now know about the game, u will lvl in the old classic of daoc (the real )faster than on uth cause there was 2.5k people to make group with... u will build a good group and u will make fast and good exp

and i dont ask for better exp as i remember only for some better items to buy...

so next time read, thing about and better dont answer if u dont have to say something

hf

Blue wrote:Scrooge is absolutely right. Mobs are way easier here and XP Bonus is everywhere. If we would do real classic then all of you would cry.

Isn't true...i'm actually playing on live classic server (Gareth) and in one month i have 3 chars 50...

Xp in this server is very slow...this is the reality.