Yes a 50 cd specced ranger can take out an inf easily if he uses only positionals and reactionary styles while using camouflage for the first attack and he has no evade luck

Noir wrote:eclipse you are really funny , we see you everyday on forum but never in game , theorical is good , gameplay is better , get your ass in emain and come learn us to play please...
you talk about things that you don't know because daoc is not only mathematic. if you were more playing and less speaking we could listen you , but personally i don't care about a bla bla bla guy.
now log in , play your noskilled ranger , open your eyes and say : Wooow , i don't know play and i win , my char rox

HAHAHA, ya sure ill take my lvl 48 out there right now, or can i finish up Thid on my luri. 97K RP Last Week, well geez i must have not be inactive, as im in 9th of total for rangers currently, compared to lvl 50's. Geez i got more RP this week then you noir, maybe you need to be a little more active. Or you waiting on the rvr revamp so things will be easyer for you lol. Dont worry the good rangers will stick out the crappy stealth system, and still give you and other assasins trouble. Then will come more nerf rangers threads, but it will not be about PD, IP, purge. But about AP, TS and so on. What ever they can use to believe that is why they died.

realac0 wrote:i already said this a lot of times, if melee system was working, a ranger is going to be evaded 50/60% times against an assassin after u got debuffed str/con, expecially against hybrid rangers

Assassins don't have advanced evade.


On a sidenote: eclipsed is leveling his third ranger lol.

bawww wrote:

realac0 wrote:i already said this a lot of times, if melee system was working, a ranger is going to be evaded 50/60% times against an assassin after u got debuffed str/con, expecially against hybrid rangers

Assassins don't have advanced evade.


On a sidenote: eclipsed is leveling his third ranger lol.

Actualy 4th

Keep in mind, ive always loved playing a ranger and its my main class. First i made a luri , but ignored auto training him, when i got to about 30s, i decided to see how id like a shar, back then i was just joining the server and wasnt playing too much, just now and then, nothign serious. Then at about 30s, i decided to just contenue on my luri, and made my shar a alchemist. After awhile when i got to 50 on my luri, i was starting to want that auto training, and im pickly like that, espicaly about my current spec and trying diffrent things out ( respec respec respec ). So at the time i was quiet disappointed in the bow system and really didnt care for anything higher then 35 bow and thought, maybe a celt would be better, so before getting too high in RR, i decided to make my celt, but had trouble as i hated lvling and stopped and played my luri. Found that as a problem, so i deleted my luri so i force myself to finish my celt with auto training. When i finsihed him, and had fun and got to 5L2, but with my new spec and missing my origenal luri, as in the past, before uthgard i have always been a luri. I decided to go back to my luri, but had the same issue with wanting to go back to my lvl 50 to avoid the boring xping. So instead of deleting zoinks, i sold him for 25plat. So now i got a full mp suit, 5.7 spd bow and weapons, plus few more plat, waiting for when im lvl 50. I will stick with this one though ... maybe .. jk

Just wanted to try diffrent things out before i stayed with my char. Plus i wanted Eclipsed as my ranger, as that is the name i used back when i played long ago. Ive tested my char in and out, diffrent specs, what effects my class best and what doesnt. Play styles, bow tactics and so on. Unlike some others, i play a ranger, ive always played a ranger, and if you want to threaten to nerf my class, you bet i will say something

Ronian wrote:Yes a 50 cd specced ranger can take out an inf easily if he uses only positionals and reactionary styles while using camouflage for the first attack and he has no evade luck

again, we was talking about u fighting with a hybrid spec
u always escape from my questions ^_^

anyway i agree, if camo up, open with side stun good use of reactionary and positionals,AND:

USING PURGE for debuffs (if inf/sb not fast to reapply) and if assassin very very unlucky on evade ...

... u can win on live too, nothing to say.

but u agree with me that we are talking a lot of :

... IF ...

... for sure, u can't win just straight melee without any ra's with an hybrid spec.

well, atm, Uthgard give u this chance, and from what i see/read, we are not talking about "IF", but we are talking about:

"THIS IS NORMAL"

sorry, this is not daoc ^_^

@Eclipsed
lol i had a lot of fun reading your "xping experience here ^_^"
anyway 1 thing must say about u: at least u are consisted with your "love class". this is a good thing and i appreciate it

Why should an assasins always win then, when they also spec into CS styles and miss/cant do there PA. Theses classes have about the same number of spec pts, excluding the infi, and they both spec about 35ish in there special skills ( CS , Bow ) and if a ranger fights an assasin streight from melee and the assasin didnt PA. They both missed there special skills.

And when you compare them, the ranger has self buffs, which get countered by str/con debuff and a dot. They are on the same tables, and the assasin has higher evade, but still is affected by facing a dual wielding enemy. Dont forget, Rangers are in RF, not lether, and they always have spec AF on. Dont expect them to be a pin cushin.

I am 50 CD and in these fights vs Dragoonn too

Damage before vs Bugsy... Discuss how op ranger is:

Ronian wrote:I am 50 CD and in these fights vs Dragoonn too

Damage before vs Bugsy... Discuss ohw op ranger is:

This is very good damage.

Ronian wrote:Hunter has all that listed above except cd. So Hunter is semi-op?

It's annoying that some one can make RR11 with such a shallow understanding of how the game works.

Hunter has "all that listed except CD." Besides the fact that CD alone is a huge advantage on Uthgard there is the matter of the Ranger's superior buff line, better bows with longer range, and better armor resists for fighting other stealthers (weak to crush, resistant to slash).

Another advantage the Ranger has that is never brought up is that it has more targets that are vulnerable to arrows than any other archer class. Think about it.

Midgard as a realm has the fewest shield tanks (Thanes are almost extinct so that leaves Warriors) and our hybrids have few ranged interrupts and no way to CC enemies at range (excluding Skalds).

Albion has lots of shields, but again no real way to lock down an archer and kill it without a Minstrel.

Hibernia, on the other hand, is the Anti-Archer realm. Champs with shield, debuffs to interrupt, and insta-snare. Valewalkers with interrupts and insta-snare. PBT Wardens that take an eternity to kill with arrows and can sprint forever. All casters have base-line stun. And of course the Ranger, the best anti-archer class of them all.

I didn't want to get involved in another Ranger QQ, but here we are.

Ronian wrote:I am 50 CD and in these fights vs Dragoonn too

Damage before vs Bugsy... Discuss how op ranger is:

my god Ronia!!!!
i want cry ;(

HOW U CAN SAY SOMETHING LIKE:

Discuss how op ranger is

while u post this screen shot?

i really have no words ...

u are showing us a screen shot where u hitted a 7l7 infiltrator for 1227 total damage (i am counting all, for sure some procs too and add damage too) on 6 swings (repeat: SIX SWINGS) where 1 got evaded and where u missed 1 time with the second weapon (the main hand hit the target).

all this while Bugsy give u back 351 damage. eveded 1 time and, from what i see, have done a total of 5 swing (but i can be wrong on this, not easy to see).

i think here u jumped on him, maybe with camo up, but, anyway, what i ask my self, is really how u can think this is normal ...

if i was playing a ranger and was trying to prevent a fix (repeat FIX not nerf) i should never post screenshot like this ...

u are just demostrating how fu....k..iing OP your class is, but really, from what i see, seem what i was doing with my old shadowzerk at 1.60+ against infs, with laxe hitting around 2x what was supposed to be ...

hits for 120/130/140, maybe after debuff ...

no words ...

p.s.
if i don't remember bad, my inf, with potions buffs, have around 1400hp's, for sure not more than 1500 ...

@Seyha
You should pay more attention to the smiley

@realac0
You should pay more attention to the first white line in the screenshot, obvioiusly I used camouflage

Ronian wrote:You should pay more attention to the smiley

Soooo... now instead of denying that you're OP you gloat about it?

Delete your freak.

Seyha wrote:

Ronian wrote:You should pay more attention to the smiley

Soooo... now instead of denying that you're OP you gloat about it?

Delete your freak.

I know the mechanis of the game. I played with old RAs a blade ns and I know how hunter sucked on live.

Sorry I guess it must have been lost in translation. Still, delete your freak.