Glacius wrote:Assasins and rangers melle dmg is higher then it should be , the way how str affects dmg is not set livelike and will never be , they hit like hibrids and thats the reason why they are op.

Do you have a proof? Actually I think without relics my damage is gimp. Actually a champ still hits for 250 damage on pd5 in da duel.

I'm going to make a video with fraps, and u will know "why" ranger is op...

"Why ranger is OP?" Looks like a joke...(ops sorry i didn't notice thread has been opened by a ranger...).

PS: I have an infi without viper 3 and i can't kill ranger, if viper will be nerfed nobody has chance to defeat them (rangers).

A simple list : Mos (Avoid assassin's pa and gives the chance to critcal shot with bow by far), Camouflage (Need to explain?), ip (need to explain?), purge 15 mins (viper, debuff...), BM stun and bleeding (...), PD (ops), free self-buffs (ops), RR5 ability (ops), Speed (ops)...

Please guys, try to be serious...don't make this kind of posts (ranger was op on live too for a short period of time, now it has been fixed...We are at 1.80 by 10 months, the date i started to play...).

Holavez

Ronian wrote:Do you have a proof? Actually I think without relics my damage is gimp. Actually a champ still hits for 250 damage on pd5 in da duel.

I don't get it, is 250 damage supposed to be a lot ? lol

Tobletwo wrote:

Ronian wrote:Do you have a proof? Actually I think without relics my damage is gimp. Actually a champ still hits for 250 damage on pd5 in da duel.

I don't get it, is 250 damage supposed to be a lot ? lol

Yes, vs pd5 it is much, that means I have 41% crush resistance.

Thats about 424 dmg vs no resist/no PD. 314 dmg vs 26% resist, and 271 dmg vs 36 slash resist, no PD. Not bad for a 2h from a champ, who is on a hybrid dmg table. While a ranger who has high dmg table for bow, does about 300s vs leather with currect arrows, and high bow spec/dex.

So this ia a " Ranger isnt oped" thread opened by ranger?
And every single argument to proove that is also comming from other rangers? Looks like some fotm players here are afraid to get thier Class nerfed and now they try to zerg down the Forum. Epic battle between rangers and the rest of uthgard, a pretty balanced fight 50% of uthgard vs the other 50%.

The amount of the rangers is the problem, not every single ranger;)
But thanks to so many QQer, the number is still growing up.

Like someone said they got nice RAs, which make them !invincible!.
They need also the RR like everyone else, they have also to play like everyone else. It isn´t easier.
I think , ranger is a fotm class, because y neednt to fight your enemies in a close melee battle, y can easily leech from the range and hide again. Means y get RPs and don´t die for a long time. That´s the real advantage of a ranger-being.
As NS y will wipe a lot of more times, y have to search the melee range. So viper 3 isn´t really overpowered, cause the chance that y die is a lot of higher, so the dot helps y to get atleast the kill of 1 enemy (in the most of cases).

If a high RR sg cant spare a solo one, there will be no topic in the forum, but if a high rr sologanker plays solo and is ganked by a imbah fotm class, instantly there´s a QQ topic.

Maybe most of the QQer lost their skill (or never got it) to play their classes. There isnt only 1 anytimer to win all battles (ups sry Argyl) Use your ablities ... and brain (brainbuff, if y dont have it ;P )

I can kill with my rr4 champ (luri!! + only selfbuffed) an rr4 ranger (fullpoted, selffbuffed, charged), but no chance against viper 2 rr4 sb (fullbuffed)
If y cant beat the one, come with 2.
In Uth NF times rr5+ friar was unbeatable in melee and lot of played the class. He could fight against 2 rangers at the same time and kill them... But ty to Albion, they nerfed this imbah class:) cause nobody wants them in a small or big grp. less utility haha

Eclipsed wrote:Thats about 424 dmg vs no resist/no PD. 314 dmg vs 26% resist, and 271 dmg vs 36 slash resist, no PD. Not bad for a 2h from a champ, who is on a hybrid dmg table.

Lol, wow, hahaha... 424 damage against 0% resist is not bad Christ, my warrior was hitting (a lot) harder than that at lvl 42.

I love those replys from those who are so suprised to see rangers defending there class. Geez who would of expected that. Lets nerf SB , but they are not allowed to defend agenst claims agenst them. Ya right. And this thread was started with one simple question. What do you think is OP about the ranger, and please explain in detail. Then i said each reply would be challeged , wether it was a valid bug that is brought up or not. But most of the responses are just QQs, little details and QQ about rangers defending agenst there QQs. Its amazing to see QQing agenst a class and QQ agenst the class for defending there class.

But dont get me wrong, there has been a few points, that affect rangers, but no valid ones that are related to the ranger. Example WS and how it may help give the ranger an advantage vs the other 2 archers. Affects the ranger positivly, when related to non dual wielders, but isnt a bug related to the ranger class it self.

Tobletwo wrote:

Eclipsed wrote:Thats about 424 dmg vs no resist/no PD. 314 dmg vs 26% resist, and 271 dmg vs 36 slash resist, no PD. Not bad for a 2h from a champ, who is on a hybrid dmg table.

Lol, wow, hahaha... 424 damage against 0% resist is not bad Christ, my warrior was hitting (a lot) harder than that at lvl 42.

Im not sure about that, proof would be nice on that claim. But anyway, the champ is on a lower dmg table , then the warrior and also the champ maybe spec lower in LW, if spec 50 in valor.

Feel free to make one then and prove it to yourself.

Rent wrote:The amount of the rangers is the problem, not every single ranger;)
But thanks to so many QQer, the number is still growing up.

Like someone said they got nice RAs, which make them !invincible!.
They need also the RR like everyone else, they have also to play like everyone else. It isn´t easier.
I think , ranger is a fotm class, because y neednt to fight your enemies in a close melee battle, y can easily leech from the range and hide again. Means y get RPs and don´t die for a long time. That´s the real advantage of a ranger-being.
As NS y will wipe a lot of more times, y have to search the melee range. So viper 3 isn´t really overpowered, cause the chance that y die is a lot of higher, so the dot helps y to get atleast the kill of 1 enemy (in the most of cases).

If a high RR sg cant spare a solo one, there will be no topic in the forum, but if a high rr sologanker plays solo and is ganked by a imbah fotm class, instantly there´s a QQ topic.

Maybe most of the QQer lost their skill (or never got it) to play their classes. There isnt only 1 anytimer to win all battles (ups sry Argyl) Use your ablities ... and brain (brainbuff, if y dont have it ;P )

I can kill with my rr4 champ (luri!! + only selfbuffed) an rr4 ranger (fullpoted, selffbuffed, charged), but no chance against viper 2 rr4 sb (fullbuffed)
If y cant beat the one, come with 2.
In Uth NF times rr5+ friar was unbeatable in melee and lot of played the class. He could fight against 2 rangers at the same time and kill them... But ty to Albion, they nerfed this imbah class:) cause nobody wants them in a small or big grp. less utility haha

It's fun that according to the post of this comedians hibs every hib class can easily kill a ranger and if you can't it's just because you are a noob and have to learn to play your class.
If you haven't noticed yet: hibs don't have to fight rangers in RvR, so this is pointless. And please, really you think that we have actually on uthgard 70 proh ranger (just the number of ranger 5L+ - and 73 rangers with more than 10k LWRP) and all the assassins, scouts and hunter are poor noobs?

But i've a news: i don't care anymore!
Yesterday i've retired my hunter from RvR, not because of rangers but because i'm tired to fight the tens of ridicolous bugs that affect this class. No fun in this, i've to fight with them and then with other players, and not a single word from the devs that something has been done for this bugs.
I can have fun with other mid class that are almost finished, i'm just disapponted that the class i love so much is a gimp just because of the indifference of devs.

I hope everyone roll a ranger so they will not have someone to fight in just a month. Big fun!

Tirax wrote:Epic battle between rangers and the rest of uthgard, a pretty balanced fight 50% of uthgard vs the other 50%.

Don't go there, they'll WTFPWN us!

Rent wrote:In Uth NF times rr5+ friar was unbeatable in melee and lot of played the class. He could fight against 2 rangers at the same time and kill them... But ty to Albion, they nerfed this imbah class:) cause nobody wants them in a small or big grp. less utility haha

Jes Friars are totally awesome, without any speed, cc or stun, without stealth, PD and very low damage table.They got love like hell from mythic for a reason dude.... And jes they dont have any utillity on Uthgard because it was implemented 6? 7? Jears after Game release.

And an Ranger should never ever has a chance in melee against a friar.
They hadnt back in OF. The reasons are high evade, and a 2h crushweapon + fullbuffed. While most Rangers waer thrust weapon.

But actually they have on Uthgard with some RR and high PD.....
But probabbly the uthgard friars just cant play, they just spam anytimer and dont spec viper3 this noobs.

kryptonite wrote:why do you always see the same 5-10 ppl cry about rangers?
maybe just those 5 ppl got a prob with em?
same storry every time.
and all of those whiners did never play a ranger on live.
you know ranger on live was way harder?
yes, i talk about classic live.

i see only 4 people pretending rangers arent oped. maybe because they all play one? Which level is yours?

And jes we all know that archers sucked on live. With NF and ToA the first Meleerangers came and mythic realised this and nerfed them because they perfomed way better than other melees.