Funkling wrote:

Murax wrote:

jrhadden wrote:Dual Wielders should be favoured, not only they half block but also evade (pointing at svg).

Savages aren't dual wielders, block works fine against them. They're just favoured because they're OP against anything else.

That was not what i meant. It was in the context of "plate armored armsmens". I was explaining why armsmen/platearmor aint that great after all.
Merc= Dual wield , halfs evade (which a savage has as defense).
So the message was "merc > armsmen" in defensiv and offense.



Greetz
Nes

Murax wrote:

GreenP wrote:

zubasa wrote:one word: plate

paladin plate mob3 buffed` 4xSavage 2 Seconds

wrong! I just tested it, you´ll only need 1,748 sec

But it's plate! :p

Murax wrote:Sure you wont need that good def if you are running good offense.

Which is only doable in midgard I might add.

jrhadden wrote:That was not what i meant.....

Alright, I misunderstood your post

Funkling wrote:

Murax wrote:Sure you wont need that good def if you are running good offense.

Which is only doable in midgard I might add.

And thats also the point why Mid has a penalty in Melee def in the current setups

I still dont get what mid-def thinga u are missing...

Example healer has tank on him. Warrior can slam. Svg can backstun.
In case of Stun immunity. Warrior can backsanre and svg can do so much dmg, that any tank will turn around find something else to do ^^.
Murax u sure have faced the same situation, when u attack a cleric, and suddenly u find a reaver on your ass, kickng your ass with levi. What u do?
Yep u stop attack cleric and try to avoid levi ... The idea of peeling.
The difference to a svg peeling is. Reaver depends on backstyles, while svg has an awesome anytime dmg:>.

When the svg got attacked he still got evade+selfbuffs. And evade>plate/chain.

I really dont see why mid-svg setups are bad in def.

Greetz
Nes

I am pretty sure we´re thinking of the same thing but what you describe is melee offense (svg/reaver dealing dmg) and not melee defense. There is a little difference.

Murax wrote:I am pretty sure we´re thinking of the same thing but what you describe is melee offense (svg/reaver dealing dmg) and not melee defense. There is a little difference.

We were talking about mids beeing weak in def. I jsut dont get the point why:) I explained already how nicely mids can def either with warrior or with svg. Whats the point in claiming mids are poor in def?
Havnt even mentioned Mr.IDeseaseInstant shami.p

Greetz
Nes

ps. Murax I count on YOU and your SVG friends .. when we redo the damagetest. I dont wanna hear a lazy no...

Mids are obviously weak in def because they sometimes (!!!) don't have a warrior. Nerfest realm

Funkling wrote:Mids are obviously weak in def because they sometimes (!!!) don't have a warrior. Nerfest realm

olol yes^1^


i think they say they are weak in def because they are strong in melee and magic so they must be weak in def!!!1 because they dont have plate wearing paladins or studded wearing bards!

Weak of def ? So why does a savage have 360% evade and evades almost as much as my low stealther(30+) ... !?!?!?!

there is simple solution to that problem, remove SI classes.

elTakapiru wrote:there is simple solution to that problem, remove SI classes.

Oh nooooo! we loose the 1-green pet carrying bd?

zubasa wrote:

elTakapiru wrote:there is simple solution to that problem, remove SI classes.

Oh nooooo! we loose the 1-green pet carrying bd?

Yeah and that useless never used noname SVG. But as mids say it's already weak and useless, so no problem.


OT: Oh i saw you got a new skill: run into the mobs to die to don't give rp... It's cool man!

hun_cactus wrote:
OT: Oh i saw you got a new skill: run into the mobs to die to don't give rp... It's cool man!

Well not like he's first to do this.

Ok convinced... my realm is totally OP... but guess what

I don´t care


And as my favorite Simpsons guy always says: HAHA




PS: I just found my new signatur