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Dinorider
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Postby Dinorider » May 31, 2007 23:33

Since few week , on a lot of evenings, we ll see more than 2 fg hibbies stick on emain. All does what he wants , i don t come here for QQ about that. It's not really a skilled manner to play but like i just said, all does what he wants. :roll:

I am here for talk about another problem. The new system on emain doesn t allow for little group to take back some towers and keeps. I don t know about alb situation but on mid , we don t have really the capacity to take back some towers / keeps and fight against enemy at the same time.
Not because playing bad, just we don t have enough player log at the same time on emain.

Tonight, my guild group come on emain at 9 pm like usual. An another mid group was roaming. About 20 minutes later we fight around more than 20 hibbies. :cry:

I come here because i want some good rvr. It s impossible with this situation. It s bg against bg in a little place like on thidranki shard. We are in the same situation. Zerg against zerg. I don t care about win or lose till me and my group do our best. But this is not interesting. I don t have any idea if we can do something for stopping that. :?

I want to fight fg against fg. These fights which are so good to do because it s not the number but how all play who decide the winner. Not a server where people wait on tk their RA up , not a server where players keep near their tk for have heal from our guard, not a server where people logg off after loose one time... There are a lot of another examples of bad spirit. :evil:

I really no have idea of what people will answer to that. I don t have a good english. I am sorry if it s not easy to understand what i mean. For resume , if players will search more after challenge, all will more enjoy rvr here. :twisted:

See u under 3 twf and 2 st on emain soon. :wink:
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Postby Thraxia » May 31, 2007 23:40

I don't really wanna start flame here but i can't understand you whining about hib zerg while your guild adds in really every fight it comes across... no wonder they starting to zerg when they have to face 1 fg + 1 fg adding all the time
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Postby Almar » May 31, 2007 23:47

great post from a guild that adds no matter what happens

Norsk Natives is the guild that adds most frequently any balanced rvr fight without hesitating. You see all midgard hibernia and maybe albion has this oppinion of you guys. i dont think that you have any right to whine about zergs when you are the main reason for them.

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Postby Sethor » May 31, 2007 23:51

Another point...you can raid every keep with a group of around 4players. It
just takes some time. Just shoot down towers/keeps if their level is too high.
After destroying a tower or an inner keep the level of guards/lords will be
at the lowest stage.

I really appreciate that the keeps became "real" keeps and no longer are
just some paper-constructs raidable by 1-2 guys. Still some things like
advanced siege-weapons like battle-rams and pallintones are missing, but
I'm sure they will be implemented in the near future.

To all others: please stop complaining about people adding or zerging or
whatever. DAoC is a RvR game and originally intended to have fights
of large groups. I can understand people becoming upset if they get added
in a fair fight, but always remind - your not the only one who wants to
have fun by killing some hostile players.

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Postby MaTuTe » Jun 01, 2007 01:23

this thread have no sense ...

play and have fun, its simple ;)

/closed :P

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Postby Nayru » Jun 01, 2007 05:43

well this thread in fact has sense..

it is a public problem, since unfair rvr destroys the fun for both parties - first for those who log out and then for those without enemies.
simply complaining about this makes in deed so sense, suggestions would be more helpful.

do you think enlarging emain again could help? i supported removing dun bolg again, but in those days there was less action than we now have - so i want to lead you to the thought, that maybe this battleground-style means fun to many people, because you don't have to look for enemies very long. furthermore there seems to be a solo-rvr hotspot around the ruins in front of the htk. some find that annoying and for others this spot enables a lot of fun. :)

please state suggestions and do not just flame/whine, otherwise this thread is really senseless. :?

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Postby Thraxia » Jun 01, 2007 05:54

I guess it'd be nice to reintroduce Dun Bolg and relocate the Hib Telekeep to somewhere near there.

Additionally, the staff could add some more nice levelspots for lower levels (like bananachs or the lower goborchends), there would be much space for example between bolg and gobo spot (only grey/green mobs there - to be honest, noone goes to emain at such low level so theres not really much sense to have a spot of level 36 mobs there).

Anyways, it's clear that emain got really crowded in the last few weeks and it'd be nice to have some more space to roam so if there are more groups of one realm they can move more independantly from each other.
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Postby Azorias » Jun 01, 2007 09:04

Just need a bigger rvr map. Maybe it can make hib (2-3 fg) stop sticking or waiting RA's at keep before roaming.
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Postby panachier » Jun 01, 2007 09:55

it's not THE solution but maybe it could help to get some small group in emain...

maybe eye of arawn and giant lupsus drop item from megalondon...

you would have 1/50 chance to get a drop and you would need a group of 3 or 4 chars to kill them. with a repop of 20 mins. so small groups would cruise from one to the other mob and waiting for repop look for enemies...
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Postby Dinorider » Jun 01, 2007 10:08

Like i said , i am not here for QQ about zerg hib. I just want to find some solution to equilibrate rvr. Hib population is not the same as mid and alb one. We can t match more than 3 fgs hib with mid rvr population.

About add ... how could i say .... We are new here , we need some rank and some experience in rvr. 3 guildies just begin this game. I apologize if by our action we destroy some balanced fight , but when there is nobody in emain, you just rush what you find.

For finish , i never see any alb / hib team who don't add fight when i am on emain: NN group or pick upp one.
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Postby Zerbel » Jun 01, 2007 10:58

Thraxia wrote:I guess it'd be nice to reintroduce Dun Bolg and relocate the Hib Telekeep to somewhere near there.



Yeah. And i think, that giving each realm a dedicated keep could be motivating too.
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Postby Runis » Jun 01, 2007 11:38

1. Bolg would be nice (tho for my class would be harder but better for rvr anyway, especially for hibs because lately their tk is heavily camped).
2. RvR is NOT Fg vs Fg, only on this server is like this.
3. You should either change the emain XP bonus appliable for 35+ (the lvl that you can enter emain) , either delete all those gray mobs for 50.
4. Giant lusus is not megalodon. Megalodon Hide Cloak is not Lusus Hide Cloak.

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Postby Murax » Jun 01, 2007 16:18

For those who complain about the so called "Adder"

emain doesn´t belong to one guild/ally/group or whatever. So why dont stop this stupid discussion and whining about adders. No one has the right to forbit someone to attack enemys.

You can ask, gently, not to add but you can not expect they won´t add.

On Topic,

yes I vote for wider the RVR Zone, like its now, its insta Fast Food RVR. No Tactics no Skill.. just many enemys in a small Area. Like so many Insta servers are.

What I would also like to see is another Map. Emain is ****** me up the last days/weeks. And I guess it is not that complicate to change a Map.

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Postby salbei » Jun 01, 2007 16:28

offtopic:
imho get rid of this stupid map already - lags like sh!t , agramon can´t be worse. you saw it on purga what a mapchange means for the server population.

agramon ~350ppl in the evening got changed to brefine for ~8 ppl in the evening ^^

ontopic:
every realm zergs once in a while , some more - some less (see albs). if you enjoy these 26 vs 7 fights just go on.np if that happens once, but after the third time gettin ganked even the last one logs out

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Postby Elwin » Jun 01, 2007 20:19

salbey purga was eeaten by freezes ....
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