i know this topic will be closed/cancelled very very soon but, damn, i can't read things like:

... u Baman sux for your poisons switching etc etc, expecially if from hibs ...

welll:

Poison is a daoc skill and, from start, A LOT of mincers, rangers, scouts etc etc used to have a friend or a bot just for it.
Nothing strange, this is DAOC (see Qivna rangers videos that are quite old, but, any real daoc live player just know it, this playstyle was used a lot expecially old settings, without arts etc etc).

well, now the point is:

WHAT IS NOT DAOC?

well, DAOC

IS NOT:

-) side/back stun like on Uthgard. Lag strafe abusers like on Uthgard. BUGS on degree of styles success like on Uthgard (reavers, rangers, bm's, valewalkers etc.)
-) NEW RA's mixed with NO CL's (this mean ALOT MORE HP's for a CL5 char, and A LOT MORE STATS OVERCAP Str, dex, AF etc ), NO ARTS ... all this stuffs just compesate overpowerd ra's like PD, MOC etc etc
-) NO LEGGENDARY WEAPONS with this settings (this is really incredible, maybe is the thing i hate more)
-) NEW RA'S but OLD STYLES REVAMP (all should have side stun on dual wielders, zerks should have dd proc, Assassins should have evade debuffs styles, etc etc ... and a lot of other stuffs ...)

i'am not talking about BUGS (Weapon SKill, defense penetration etc etc) because i can accept this, this is a free shard admins make the possible on spare time

BUT

i don't understand all this CUSTOM UTGHARD CHANGES that didn't have nothing to do with:

... emulate old daoc feel ...

BUGS = something not working as intended (WS, 2H damage etcetc)

.. so, poisons switching on a Minstrel, WAS WORK AS INTENDED, and the real bug abusers are others ...


i agree with Baman when he say:

i'd like know how many ppl have played on live on Utghard ...

btw

GG rr10 baman!!!
even if i don't know u, i've see your videos and had fun watch it

move to live?

I agree with you, honestly i hate lag-stafer more than people (mincer, ranger, etcetc.) that use poisons.

Kevan89 wrote:I agree with you, honestly i hate lag-stafer more than people (mincer, ranger, etcetc.) that use poisons.

I can't see how one can hate someone cause of a game but it's your live not mine
Strafing is quite common on live as well so what is the problem?

Also, there is a difference between getting your weapon poisoned by an infil friend, or having your entire inventory full of weapons poisoned by your alt and switching through them as you fight your opponent. If you can not see how that is stretching the concept of 'fair play', then I can't help you. And I think that was not the only thing that made Baman as 'popular' as he is...

As for the bugs and imbalances - sure that's a problem. Combat mechanics on Uth are somewhat broken, with all it's consequences and I am sure, if the Devs had the time, they'd address all of them. Excessive use of poisons on classes that can't actually apply them however was something that created problems on Uthgard, and could be fixed relatively easily. The other problems are just much more complicated..

The baman stuff is all about honor and respect to the other players (which he and his little buffbot totally lack).

I have no problem what so ever with weapon switching in combat, and the simple fact that swapping envenomed weapons was allowed on live means its accepted behaviour. It may be a bug that Mythic didnt want to fix; thats not the point, the point is that it was considered a viable tactic, on live.

Uthgard on the other hand, decided that swapping envenomed weapons is not an acceptable tactic, so they chose to ban the person that was doing it. its their call and we all have to live with their decisions.

Getting to RR10 is an achievment no matter who does it, so well done for getting there.

However, the apparent lack of fair play that baman exhibits is probably what upsets people the most, not the fact that he uses envenomed weapons. XP killing is a dirty tactic, but it is still within the rules of the game.

Just because you can do something doesnt mean you should.

As, i already said ad are good guys.
The only thing i don t understand are all this custom changes making daoc another game from what we all loved back in the days.

Poisons are a part of the game and remove it for no assassins change a lot tactic and games play on stealth wars, for all realms.

I don t care if on uthgard no one than baman use it, just should be leaved live like...

About the rest, i continue to dream a server with the feel of old daoc but, as i can see, this is becoming a full custom server where ppl that never played live want teach the other how the game should be (see strafers that, from my point of view, are the real bug abusers...)

Seems that all the strafe whiners never played live It is easy to strafe on live and I use the same tactitcs to do it on Uthgard. Uthgard is a BB free server and they know why and having a poison BB is not acceptable
*wonders how much money baman gave them to be his fanboys*

pweet wrote:Seems that all the strafe whiners never played live It is easy to strafe on live and I use the same tactitcs to do it on Uthgard. Uthgard is a BB free server and they know why and having a poison BB is not acceptable
*wonders how much money baman gave them to be his fanboys*

1)I'm not a fanboy...i play here from 2 months.
2)Yes, on the live u can strafe also, but it's always for me worse than poisoned weapon swicth.Not a whine, only my personal opinion.I can kill strafer without problem :V.

ANother Uthgard-QQ THread /yawn

Nobody forces u to play here. If it sucks that bad just stop playing and stop QQ.

I would be fine with poison weapons on non-envenom classes, if the poison vanished when:

- the applier (assassin) was beyond 2000 range
- the applier logged out or died
- a shaman sheared the person holding the weapons

another QQ thread by a Baman fanboi /yawn

borog wrote:Uthgard on the other hand, decided that swapping envenomed weapons is not an acceptable tactic, so they chose to ban the person that was doing it. its their call and we all have to live with their decisions.

They banned him for insulting people so stop making ****** up. After you beat him, made him SoS away, etc., he'd always log on an alt on a different realm to insult you. Happened every time.

lol about Baman i know only videos yeah, i am a funboy
accept the pov of other players w/out use the only word on this forum i see on every thread:

QQ

QQ

all QQ about all.

... like was a problem for everyone here roll a VW, or a Reaver, or, yeah, a Ranger.

my POV is that a Mincer running 10 weapons with poison applyied is A LOT LESS unfair than a VW backstun + kill target with 4 swing.

... or is A LOT LESS unfair than a ranger running PD5 against chars with 1200 hp's , w/out leggendaries weapons and, maybe, sidestunning like hell

... or is A LOT LESS unfair than a Infiltrator/Sb/Ns running bugged viper3 killing everything around ...

make me laugh that admins have "fixed" (lol fixed) poisons on no assassin classes (that, u all know, is allowed on live from day 1) and leave all the other things that are called BUGS and NOT LIVELIKE running ...

that's all