RvR Statistics end of May2010

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Postby Rector » May 29, 2010 11:27

Hi Uthgard players!
Another week is gone, so we have new RvR statistics to look at.
Like last week, I only took the data from chars, who had:
- more than 10 000 lwrps (would have been too much work otherwise)
- a realmrank higher than 4L2 (to filter out battleground activity)

This time it was 589 players.

Here are the results:
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Graphic 1: All LWRPs of the classes of each realm added together


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Graphic 2: All LWRPs of the stealthers and the non-stealthers of all realms added together.
I wasn't sure where to put the Minstrels, so I seperated them.


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Graphic 3: All LWRP's of each class from Albion added together. Also shown is the number of players of each class.


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Graphic 4: All LWRP's of each class from Midgard added together. Also shown is the number of players of each class.


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Graphic 5: All LWRP's of each class from Hibernia added together. Also shown is the number of players of each class.


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Graphic 6: This is the average LWRP for one player for each class of all three realms.
Also shown is the number of players of each class. Graphs are sorted by the first.

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Sidenote
If you want to compare this to the results of the last week, look here.

There is also a thread with the average values of all weeks evaluated so far.
You find it here: link


My comment
Hibs were still very successful, especially their casters. Albs were a bit better than last week. Mids were often the losing realm.
This is the first time where the wizard class made a lot rps, but just because of 1 player, Loming.
The Bonedancer class also dropped from the top of the list to the end, just because the player Pestilenzia wasn't as active as the weeks before, and there are only three Bonedancers at all.
Also the rangers, a much played class, weren't as successful as in the last two weeks.
The Animist is at the top of the list mostly because of one player, Stropharia, with ~220k LWRPs.


Now have fun discussing!

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Postby Gil » May 29, 2010 11:44

The active RvR population as you have defined it (R4L2+ with LWRP 10K+) is so small on Uth that 3 or 4 players taking a week off swings the statistics wildly. I don't faunt your defination. But it's hard to draw any conclusions if one Animist, or one bonedancer, or one savage, or one wizard has an unusual week. If one of these rarely seen classes players takes a week holiday, or returns from holiday the stats fo the week go crazy.
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Postby Seyha » May 29, 2010 12:06

Gil wrote:If one od these rarely seen class players takes a week holiday, or returns from holiday the stats fo the week go crazy.


All statistics must be viewed in context or the information they give is worthless. There is nothing wrong with Rector's data. The huge variance in some of the stats doesn't make the information less valuable, as long as you understand what is happening.
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Postby Celad » May 29, 2010 12:13

Rector wrote:Also the rangers, a much played class, weren't as successful as in the last two weeks.


Because they found no more enemyes and they zerg the few that still are in emain or df (exception for Black Adders obviously).
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Postby Rector » May 29, 2010 12:16

You're right Gil. Thats why I displayed the playernumbers in graphic 6 also. So if there is only 2 or 3 players playing this class in endgame RvR, the "lwrp value per one player" has not much to do with the class itself, more only with their players activity.

But you can compare other things, for example there were almost equal numbers of Shadowblades, Infiltrators and Nightshades (around 30,30,25). You can say that the average Nightshade did more RPs than the average Infi, and the Shadowblade did the least RPs. Now one can discuss what were the reasons for this. Do 30 Midgard players go out into the sun more often than 30 Hibernians? I dont think so ;)

This is of course still much influenced by the activity of the top-players. You can see that in the Bonedancers ranking for example. Because of that, I also do a longtime statistics in this thread which consists of all data collected so far (which is the much more interesting statistic).

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Postby Seyha » May 29, 2010 12:20

Rector, is this the most active week for Rangers in terms of player count so far?
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Postby Rector » May 29, 2010 12:24

39 in week1
34 in week2
42 in week3

yes, it is =)

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Postby Gil » May 29, 2010 12:26

I think the stastical work you are doing is very useful. It's the conclusions one might draw from such stastics that can be misleading IF the stastics are drawn from too small a sample set. Active RvR animists are an example of a too small sample set. The class might be over powered or under powered. A small number of players can via player skill overcome a "bad" class. A small number of players with poor skills can damage a "good" class. And of course there are many other factors a RR10 group is going to pretty consistantly roll a RR4 group. A high RR group dragging along a gimped class can make that player look good even if the class is gimped. etc.

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Postby Seyha » May 29, 2010 12:30

Yeah but you only need to compare the data here with other sources like the herald and in-game experience. That's where the discussion part comes in. :) I knew that the Wizard class had 60k LWRP because of Loming because I've seen his FG farming the entrance in DF.

Edit: If we want to really geek out on this some one should make a formula that takes a class's Average LWRP, Average RR, and Player Count and equates it to a "Class Strength Rating" or something like that. :P
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Postby Rector » May 29, 2010 12:47

Yes Gil, that are things that have to be kept in mind when drawing conclusions from the graphics.
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The longtime-statistic thread is updated now with the data from this week and some new funky graphics :twisted:

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Postby Seyha » May 29, 2010 13:00

Rector, would you consider tracking each class's average RR?
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Postby Rector » May 29, 2010 13:07

Thats a bit more difficult, because Excel cannot take the average of realmranks (xLy) as these are no numbers. At least I dont know how to do it that easily :(
So I have to take the average realmpoints per class, which is no problem and then take the table of realmranks&realmpoints and figure out something that shows the average realmranks of each class. Maybe even with a min and a max value.. uhh that would be fancy :-D Maybe next week ;)

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Postby arnius » May 29, 2010 13:11

Mid has gone from leading realm to underdog realm, or is that purely because Hib has many rangers working for them?

Could you make a graphs that shows the average lwrp per realm divided into stealther & non stealther?

That would shed some light on the matter
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Postby Runis » May 29, 2010 13:12

arnius wrote:Mid has gone from leading realm to underdog realm, or is that purely because Hib has many rangers working for them?

Could you make a graphs that shows the average lwrp per realm divided into stealther & non stealther?


that happened because many mids quit playing, and many will quit again with old ra's ( i know some)

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Postby Tuttar » May 29, 2010 13:25

Consider all the ones doing guardtasks, dont forget that when looking at lwrp stats. I think I have like 4k from killing actual enemies, rest (56k) is from solotasks this week. I'm a solo sb, and it's way faster rp/hour then waiting for incs at anywhere except amgEmain.

Or do you have some way seeing where out rp comes from? Looking at total kills for each character? :p

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