the end of stealthers

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Noir
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Postby Noir » Jun 04, 2009 16:06

Hi all , it's sad but shadowblade suck so much by now.. i got 50 axe + str/con charge + str pots.. i got 1300 ws and i hit for 50 mainhand on every tanks..and all recharge stones are too expensive : the end for stealthers
I hope GMs will remake normal price .. but atm it's not playable anymore :/

Bye all , it was funny =)

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Dark_MarDarkMark
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Postby Dark_MarDarkMark » Jun 04, 2009 16:14

Take Viper3 and 30 weapons in your inventory. Then you will win against all other classes and you will have your fun.

A nice tactic is: Lifebane on mainhand + disease on lefthand. Then run away and let your enemie die -> this is how to play a assassin on uthgard!

btw Viper 3 isnt OP without ToA... NO! NEVER!

Noir
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Postby Noir » Jun 04, 2009 16:23

Nop , only weak people take viper 3 for kill.. it is not my way to frags sorry , i prefer to stop than take viper3 and btw , Viper will be nerf soon , as GM said...

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Dark_MarDarkMark
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Postby Dark_MarDarkMark » Jun 04, 2009 16:44

Hm... then I understand you ^^

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Postby Blairo » Jun 04, 2009 17:03

the charges for all ppl are no longer that strong.. so its still the same.. its just no longer so easy to farm ppl without all charges and buff pots...
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Postby kikoo » Jun 04, 2009 17:44

Noir wrote:Bye all , it was funny =)

Bye dude.


Psst! Can I have your stuff?
<em>When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty.</em>

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Runis
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Postby Runis » Jun 04, 2009 17:44

Kids, chill up, take a deep breath, and keep on walking ;))

Everyone obviously speaks from their char point of view, so this talk is another waste.

@ noir, play bg's , play some other chars if u like, chill out, diablo3 and starcraft2 are comming

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Postby Funkling » Jun 04, 2009 18:04

If you're hitting for 50 damage with maxed axe/left axe you're doing something terribly wrong, it has nothing to do with your class or charges.

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Postby Gerbald » Jun 04, 2009 19:05

I had 8 Fights against Shadowblades yesterday (i am an imba melee Ranger who can own all other classes without skill, remember?).
I flat out lost 5.
I died to poison after killing the SB twice.
I barely survived one fight with 5% HP thanks to purge, IP and heal-Pot.

Viper3 is realy the way to go for assasins.
Nothing i can do against it.

120, 120, 120 - *purge* - 120, 120, 120 - *IP* - 120, 120, 120 *Gerbald was just killed by Viper3*

EDIT: And Shadowblades hit me for more than 100 (mainhand) on my 19% Absorb, 36% (26%+10% resistant armor against slash damage) +19% resists (PD4). On top of poison damage of course. So i cannot feel your pain, sorry.
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Postby vangonaj » Jun 04, 2009 19:09

Blairo wrote:QQ my char got nerfed QQ
the charges for all ppl are no longer that strong.. so its still the same.. its just no longer so easy to farm ppl without all charges and buff pots...


Think a little or go to school. The difference will be the same cause are same charges for all people. But range is no the same.
For example:
The difference between 9 and 10 is only 1, and between 1 and 2 too. But 2 is double than 1 and 10 isnt double than 9, but is the same difference. The same happens with charge buffs. When charges were nerfed the difference , when you play is more obvius.

Gerbald wrote:(i am an imba melee Ranger who can own all other classes without skill, remember?).


You are not Syuveil.

And viper for me isn´t way for play sb.

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Rector
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Postby Rector » Jun 04, 2009 19:22

Recharge with gold via the recharger-npc's if you don't want to lose your bp's.
And use charges only when needed, not preemptive.

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Postby nixian » Jun 04, 2009 19:27

Noir wrote:Bye all , it was funny =)


sad day :'( lost a good enemie here


ps. wtb acc info m8 ;)

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Postby Fresa » Jun 04, 2009 20:53

Before the *infamous changes* (removal of porter and adjustment of prices for recharge stones) Noir was wiping the floor with most ppl and that without viper3-cheese, because he obviously knew how to play his class.
So please don't tell him all the you-can-do-better-noob-stuff.

And come on, Noir, you can play your sb also with viper3 well. Just do it, as long as it is in the game. I would do it too. Anything else i'd consider false pride. If killing one opponent then wouldn't be a challenge anymore, take on 1vs2+ as a challenge.
I am a human being, goddamn it!
My life has value!

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Postby Noir » Jun 05, 2009 02:36

I will reply daoc later , Frozen throne rox :D I just hope recharge stones will be cheaper at my back ! =)

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Postby Duke » Jun 05, 2009 10:47

I have to tell you what I think the joke is.


Let's get a quick overview about charges and pots

e.g. Str / Con

Pot:
- Value of 30
- Crafted: 1g 20s per Pot (if you make a barrel: 1g 33s 20c per Pot)
(http://herald.uthgard-server.net/herald ... +Might&p2=)


Charge:
- Value of 57
- You have to farm an item or buy it (Str / Con Charge Price about 20-100 Platins)
- You have to Recharge for 10(!) g or 24 BP for each charge

As you see:
- difference beetween the value (VALUE: charge = 1.9 * pot)
- people who buyed charges (for a very high price) and build them into their template (with costs of utitlity) were just ****** by the nerf while pot-users just have to buy single pots
- pot prices are much better then recharge prices (PRICE: charge = (8+1/3)*pot)


to refer this to the topic:

But stealthers aren't the only ones who have problems with this change. As you can see here: http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... ic&t=11196
the Chargenerf solves no problems at all. Tanks have not enough HP against viper, stealthers haven't enough buffs to deal damage.


I follow:

This costum nerf didn't help anyone.
The aim to make BPs as a seccond money (BP Reduce) was totally hitted by the prices.
Solo RvR was just hitted because those who haven't much BPs won't gain more because if you loose you don't gain BPs.


Thanks for reading my comment.


Duke
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